"Mr Obama, saying that Mr Obama would rather lose a war than lose an election"

[Tim4319]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7526428.stm

How come it is okay for McTurtle to make this statement? This seems like an act of desperation! How is a statement like this presidential? What is going to happen if, God forbid, McCain does win the election? I see why he is not willing to sit down and discuss policies with countries he do not agree with. He is not smart enough to make intellectual statements, decisions, or have discussions with other world leaders. I do not want this man running the country!

[babylonsister]

1. "I do not want this man running the country!" You're not alone! nt

[ck4829]

2. Why would McCain would rather lose a campaign than END this war?

I think it's time to ask him that question.

[elocs]

3. I heard David Gergen comment about that yesterday after Obama's speech.

He said something like he had never seen things go so negative so early in a presidential campaign and for one candidate to question another's patriotism in that way. If McCain is this desperate now, think what October will be like.

[Tim4319]

4. I know!

They may have to debate via satellite. I can see McCain getting so upset that he would march across the stage and try and get physical.

[World Citizen]

5. no no, we love stage marching

[elocs]

6. Here is the bit I heard Gergen say yesterday on Anderson Cooper's 360:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/23/acd.02.html

COOPER: David Gergen is this just the give and take of the campaign or is this moving beyond the pale?

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: It moves well beyond the established lines of American politics. But listen John --

COOPER: Really, really? Do you think it moves well beyond the established lines of American politics?

KLEIN: Yes.

GERGEN: Yes, for this early in a campaign, for a nominee of a party, they'll accuse the other nominee of the rival party of essentially being almost traitorous and unpatriotic to throw away a war in order to advance his personal ambitions. Yes, I think that crosses the line.

WALL: Yes, I think that -- GERGEN: Listen, I think John McCain, when he says he would rather lose a campaign than lose a war, I think that's absolutely honest and correct. I think he's extremely courageous; he has been courageous about the surge.

But when he turns around and accuses Obama because Obama holds a different position of essentially, you know, trying to intentionally lose the war so we can advance -- you know being willing to lose the war so we can advance his personal ambitions, that crosses the line.