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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:07 PM
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Lanny Davis and Memories of A Purple Finger.
Lanny Davis, Former White House Counsel for Clinton/FOX News Political Contributor...has a column in the Washington Times.

Yes, that really is part of the title. He is becoming pro-war now instead of anti-war as he says he was before. I never knew he was against the invasion. Now he says the surge worked and the purple fingers won him over.



Memories of a Purple Finger

Oh, Lanny, come on now. Becoming part of Fox is bad enough...but spouting this nonsense about the surge working and the purple fingers is a little obvious.

I had been strongly opposed to the U.S. intervention from the start. I felt this way even though I believed (as did most everyone, including the intelligence community) that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and even though I thought that Saddam was a murderous, genocidal thug and the world would be better off — and the U.S. safer — with him dead.

..."But then came my first moment of doubt.

I saw on TV in early 2005, in their first preliminary democratic elections, long lines of Iraqis waiting to vote under the hot desert sun with bombs and shrapnel exploding around them. Waiting to vote!
And then there was that indelible image — an older woman shrouded in a carpet-like cape, smiling gleefully and holding her purple finger in the air for the TV cameras, purple with ink showing that she had voted.



Smiling! In the middle of war! At U.S. troops standing nearby!

Wow, I thought. Is it possible I was wrong?

Is it possible, I wondered, that Iraqis truly did want democracy and freedom and the right to vote and government of the people, just as we Americans do? And were willing to fight for it, with our help?

Wouldn’t that be a good thing? Even a great thing?


Lanny is getting right on board with the "surge is working" right wing talking points.

I have another gripe with Lanny Davis. Can someone please please explain to me why he is going on the PUMA radio show tomorrow night? They say they are going to pump his brain for ways "about ways in which we can support the process of having Hillary Clinton’s name placed into nomination at Convention."

BREAKING: Top HRC Surrogate On PUMA Radio

Lanny Davis, top Hillary surrogate, attorney, and former Special Counsel to the President for Bill Clinton will be a guest on “No We Won’t” P.U.M.A. Radio on Sunday, July 27th, 8pm EST.

..."Beginning at 8pm EST, we’ll be hosting one of my (and our) heroes from this campaign season, LANNY DAVIS. While it’s true that he is currently giving Obama his support, no one was braver or more articulate in supporting Hillary on the campaign trail than was Lanny. I still consider him our friend. We look forward to giving him a warm welcome, and to asking him about ways in which we can support the process of having Hillary Clinton’s name placed into nomination at Convention.


This is unbelievable to me that he would do that. Does he know how they have been undermining Dean's Southern Tour and undermining Barack Obama?

Surely he must.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:12 PM
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1. What the hell is puma radio?
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:16 PM
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6. I haven't
heard of it. I am glad that you asked.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:20 PM
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8. I don't know what PUMA radio is, but PUMA stands for Party Unity
My A** and is referring to the staunch Hillary supporters who won't change their mind.
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:09 AM
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20. The link is clickable and will lead to an answer.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:58 PM
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28. Is that your site?
?
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:13 PM
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37. No, it is not. But I did follow the links to the blogradio.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:12 PM
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2. Hillary 2012
Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 10:16 PM by mth44sc
nothin' else could explain it...

Edit for spelling
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:13 PM
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3. I am very close to saying the same thing out loud. Been holding my tounge
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:05 AM
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17. I have a very...
sore tongue. From biting it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:30 PM
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10. That's all Clinton supporters want.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:34 PM
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30. she's working her heart out for it. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:14 PM
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4. So Lanny Fucking Davis is pimping The Surge too? Now who benefits from that?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:33 PM
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11. Yes, he talks about the surge farther down in the interview....
makes it sound like we all know for a fact that it worked. Just like they are doing with their talking points.

"And then in early 2007 came the surge, which so many of us in the anti-war left of the Democratic Party predicted would be a failure, throwing good men and women and billions of dollars after futility. We were wrong.

The surge did, in fact, lead to a reduction of violence, confirmed by media on the ground as well as our military leaders."

That is such a small part of it that it almost insults our intelligence.

Lanny needs to stop referring to himself as the anti-war left.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:45 PM
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 03:48 PM
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32. The primaries are over Please leave your hate off the screen.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 03:51 PM
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33. Yes, the primaries are over....but there are some who won't let us get over it.
That's why I ask why Lanny Davis is doing this stuff.

Is that your website that I linked to?

Getting out of the primaries works BOTH ways.
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:02 PM
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35. I do not have a website.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:15 PM
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5. Lanny is a pitiful excuse for a Democrat ... he's DLC.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:11 PM
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14. "lanny" is a pitiful excuse for a human being
And if McLame gets elected this time there won't be any Hillary 2012 - there may not be any 2012 as far as elections are concerned.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:19 PM
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7. What the hell is PUMA radio?
Yeah, saw this a couple of weeks ago on Huffington Post. Hmmm, Lanny. Washington Times. Fox News. It looks like he's where he belongs right now.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:26 PM
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9. He always was an arrogant type
And he was never as good a paino player as he thought,
although it seems he finally ran out of hair dye, and is
letting nature take its course.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:34 PM
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12. I just saw that Charlie Rangel hired Lanny Davis as lawyer...
something about his problems with housing. I assume the same one.

Your description is good, DFW.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 10:40 PM
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13. Yeah, I've run into Davis a few times.
He's probably a decent lawyer. He's just not the nicest human around.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:12 AM
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22. Ha...just caught the reference to hair dye...
I think you may be right. :evilgrin: Comes a time in all lives, I guess.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:45 PM
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15. He knows, and Clinton knows. ANYONE who believes that Clinton is on OUR side
is delusional. This is the most effective, indirect way to undermine Obama.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:42 AM
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18. The primaries rage on, and on, in the minds of few...
Is always the same four or five people still obsessing about all things remotely related to Hillary

The other 99.9999% of the DU has moved on...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:57 AM
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19. Lanny has apparently not moved on.
:shrug:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:11 AM
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21. Lanny is a Lieberman Democrat (term loosely applied).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:30 AM
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24. lanny davis is a lieman party for
himself and he's siding with the Losers.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:18 AM
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23. Do you ever post anything except to defend the indefensible?
Lanny Davis: Washington Times, Faux News contributor, PUMA radio.

Who's failed to "move on" here?

Your posts consistently seek to quell discussion of a topic that needs sunlight.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:04 PM
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25. You are correct. I hope someone listens and reports back on what Lanny says tonight.
I don't think I can do that. :eyes:

It's called keeping your friends close...well you know the rest.
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:25 PM
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26. Its blogradio --anyone with a computer can listen. And since they save it, you
or anyone can listen anytime you all want. If you want to is.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:37 PM
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27. I don't want to listen. I am not fond of Lanny Davis. Not a fan of purple fingers
I hate seeing people fall for the purple finger stuff. I mean, come on, we bombed the hell out of that country, killed their civilians, tortured them...and then Lanny brags about the purple effing fingers?

I am sort of hoping someone does and reports back on how he recommends getting her on the ballot...even though Howard Dean already it would be up to Hillary

Dean also has debunked the ads of the Denver Group, another small group making a lot of noise. He said Clinton will be on the ballot at the convention, and will be speaking there

But no matter, they just keep on

I just have a philosphy. I think this is a small angry group, but the media just loves them as they cause dissension in Democratic ranks. I think the media will give this group huge attention...not for their power which I would think is negligible. But because they cause problems for Obama.

I think Hillary Clinton should firmly and surely separate herself from this group. Now.
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:12 PM
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36. I prefer to get the story from the person talking rather than through somone's
filter, so I will probably turn in to hear what is going on.


And i have read the stuff on the Denver Group. After their ad, Dean was not specific. He said a roll call --and did not address the nomination so the Denver Group had a rebuttal for him.

I think he should have just issued a memo stating the intent of the convention agenda. It would have avoided a lot of distention. It is like they had to dig it out of him. That does not come across as being open. Just my take on it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:23 PM
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38. Do you want to know what I think?
I think you are saying that the Dean as Chairman is lying to the PUMAs/Denver Group/No, we won't/whatever bunch.

I think this group of which you appear to be part is changing its demands daily.

I think Dean has stuck by the rules totally when two states deliberately broke them. I think this group has been rude and arrogant toward Dean and Obama.

I think some people need to accept reality.

I think Hillary needs to totally distance herself from this group.
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:56 PM
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41. No, I do
not think he was lying. Not in the least.

I think his 50 state strategy is a winner and glad to see him/Obama going for it.

I do think if he or DNC would have put a a memo clarify the agenda it would maybe have been clear to all. So, please do not read into what I write.

I am a Democrat and my family is also. I worked on the Kerry campaign last time and plan on working for Obama camp at the end of this summer.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 06:03 PM
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43. The rules are clear. Obama is in charge of the DNC basically now.
Dean has twice quoted the rules...and twice this group has changed their mission.

Their mission is to harm the Democrats. We do not do well to ignore them.

They should go and fight Obama, he's the boss now.
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 06:12 PM
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44. I agree with you, We should not ignore them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:25 PM
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39. Please do not insult what I write because you don't agree.
I would never accuse someone of being a filter. I hate that, and it is the people who support Hillary still who do it to me here all the time.

It is talking point that is being used against me, to discredit me. I get very suspicious when I read "filter."
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livingon Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:58 PM
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42. I was talking of myself--I prefer to listen directly. I did not imply you in my writing.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:04 PM
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29. A more appropriate title for anything written by lanny davis
is "Lanny Davis and memories of the middle finger"
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 03:01 PM
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31. Gimme a "D"!...Gimme an "L"!...Gimme a "C"!....What's it spell?!!!
REPUBLICAN! What's it spell?!!!...REPUBLICAN!...What's it spell?!!!... REPUBLICAN!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 04:54 PM
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34. 5th K&R.
I think some Clintonites should just form another party and be done with it. This kind of bullshit isn't helping the Democrats which perhaps is the point.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 05:35 PM
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40. Question....who else is getting accused of "filtering" their posts?
I mean we all post with a purpose, no denying that. But lately I am besieged with people telling me my writing, even though many sources...is not a filter they want to read.

Who started that talking point....and is it just being used against me?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 06:25 PM
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45. Don't be paranoid. Just keep it up.
You bring up important info. Stay the course.

Thousand points of light.

:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 07:45 PM
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46. Radio link. They are getting upset with Lanny Davis now.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 07:49 PM
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47. Now they are accusing obama of breaking rules overseas.
I swear I give up.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:51 PM
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49. They've become freepers.
Even if they were once democrats, now they are your run-of-the-mill ignorant repugs.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:36 PM
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48. Look at this line of crap:
"even though I believed (as did most everyone, including the intelligence community) that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction"

Uh, Lanny, the intelligence community absolutely did NOT believe any such thing and you know it.

In case you missed it, Lanny, millions of us were demonstrating in the streets, all over the world opposing this war because we KNEW the WMD claims were false- as did the intelligence community.

Take your lies elsewhere, Lanny.
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