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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:34 AM
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Seeing where we are today, does anyone seriously think Captain Combover ..............
......... could get elected President of the USA?

Seriously. I don't.

Not being cocky or overconfident. Just reading the tea leaves.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:36 AM
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1. Uh, no. NT
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:38 AM
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2. Once people really start paying attention, after Labor Day...
the polls will start reflecting the coming landslide.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:38 AM
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3. I don't either... things are only going to get worse before Nov.
I feel good about our chances.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:39 AM
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4. Not legitimately he couldn't...
...and I felt the same way about Chimpy in both 2000 and 2004.

You don't have to "get elected" to get installed -- if the last 8 years have taught us nothing else, we should certainly have at least learned this.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:13 PM
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23. The one **BIG** difference is that Captain Combover's campaign team is most assuredly the .......
Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 12:14 PM by Husb2Sparkly
...... "B" team. That Rove protege, Steve Schmidt, may have the same lack of morals as that marshmallowy fuck he worked for, but he lacks the brains. Were he smarter, the campaign would not be doing what it is doing .... speaking to crowds of a few hundred at7a a time and looking drifty.



Then there's off-the-books adviser, Mike Murphy, who is all about .......... well ........ Mike Murphy.



Charlie Black has been an unmitigated disaster. He probably has a plastic dildo molded from Regan's dick that promises McCain he'll fuck our guy with ..... but that's about it. Except for his lobbying clients.

No ...... they don't have near the criminal organization Bush had ..... and they don't have the religious crazies behind them so much anymore, either.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:33 PM
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24. Thank you, Mr. Jefferson. Already ppl forget that Chimp wasn't
elected either time! Good heavens, all that has to be done is install McInsane, just like they did the Chimp. Now, having said that, I think the vote count will be so far ahead for Obama that stealing it would be iffy, but hell, they can still put fake polls out there saying it's close, and then use the voting machines to wrap it up. I have no doubt that it can be stolen again, and I am trying to figure out what to do if it IS stolen again.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 05:17 AM
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32. I too have not decided what exactly I'll do if they steal...
...yet a third consecutive presidential election -- I'm just hoping the landslide will be too much for them to pull it off.

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:41 AM
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5. In a country where people were unafraid, informed, empathetic, not prejudiced,
Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 10:42 AM by nc4bo
and not suffering from head in ass syndrome than I'd say with 100% confidence that Obama will be the 44th POTUS.

But we all know that these United States is full up with those very same types of people - my confidence is not nearly that strong.

Everyday I'm amazed at the blind ignorance and denial running wild in this country even by those I'd think would surely know better.


edit for typo
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:42 PM
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27. I agree with you.
In a perfect world, no one would even have to ask the question. Obama would win by a landslide. This is, however, America, and I am fearful that folk will not be voting for mccain but against Obama.

So far, I have been happily surprised by how much support Obama has received. I doubted he could have gotten this far. Who knows, maybe, just maybe, things are not as bad as they seem.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:42 AM
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6. I just don't see how it can happen.
I can't imagine how it's possible...with an economy in the toilet, an unpopular war in Iraq and current President (also a Republican) with absymal approval ratings. Obama is a great nominee, but I see this election as a referendum of the previous 8 years. And McCain will suffer from that.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:51 AM
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7. Bush was president and won a second term - I'm not the least bit confident the best guy always wins.
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AwareOne Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:02 AM
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10. Exactly, we must remember this is the same electorate
who voted for Bush twice. I would be surprised if Obama wins, really. There is no way this racist country is going to elect Obama sorry to say.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:40 PM
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25. Gotta agree there, AwareOne. I live in VA and race will be a BIG
factor in the election here. You won't find one white person who'll admit he/she won't vote for a black, but they're out there in droves. Let's hope heightened participation by blacks will help even that out.

The latest talking point among my dumb RW coworkers is that BUSH was the problem the last 8 years, not the Pub Party, so they will happily vote Pub yet again. One idjit even said he thought Bush was "a good man" but just overwhelmed and overruled by "evil" underlings. Yeah, OK..... I looked at this moron like he had just sprouted two heads.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:27 AM
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11. bu$h did NOT win a second term - He lost again in 2004. It was Election Fraud* for the 2nd time
that kept the criminals in our White House.

* Election fraud, not voter fraud. Election fraud, mainly using electronic voting machines manufactured and programed by republicans.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:54 AM
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19. That may be true but it was close enough to steal
When there's no way it should have been.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:54 AM
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8. The Only Way is
by a successful swiftboating campaign against Obama. That is not out of the question. Obama is being attacked for the most ridiculous things now, and the attacks carry the sense of normalcy conveyed by talking heads looking at each other and nodding seriously. Obama is expecting it and making it as difficult as possible, but it accounts for a lot of his statements and positions that might otherwise seem baffling.

A lot depends on the images and nonverbalized assumptions. Those are both working in Obama's favor right now.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:01 AM
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9. Local paper, which puts editorials in the news section
Has an article about something that could have an effect. They claim we are now "winning" the war in Iraq. If it could be set up that we "win" in October, the Repukes will be full of "I told you so."

Can they pull that off?

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:48 AM
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17. They've been 'wining' the war in Iraq since they got there.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:06 PM
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21. True enough. And what event could they point to as a final
"surrender?" :rofl:

Here is the link to the AP article (printed on the front page as if it were news rather than opinion)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/ap_on_an/iraq_winning_the_war

It claims that the insurgents once controlled whole cities, but no longer have the viability of threatening the central government. Though the article does admit that there wll be continued fighting and terrorist bombings.

It doesn't look as if any kind of October Surprise is possible in this situation.

Google also brings up a right wing blog whining that this article is not getting enough attention:


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/07/27/aps-us-now-winning-iraq-war-analysis-getting-light-exposure
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:35 AM
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12. I thought that (with certainty) about GW Bush*
While McShame doesn't have the W strongly united, strange things could happen...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:37 AM
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13. Agree. Obama hasn't even taken a hard swing yet and
McCain's already coming undone.

McCain is out of his league.

"You have to be this tall to ride this ride, Senator."
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:41 AM
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14. McCain is proving over and over again that has what it takes to be CINC.
Curmudgeon-In-Chief


:hide:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:41 AM
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15. Not legally.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:45 AM
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16. Depends on how many dirty tricks Republicans can get away with.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:53 AM
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18. No. Diebold and the usual suspects could give it to him though.
And I suspect they will try.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 11:56 AM
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20. Nope. n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:12 PM
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22. Fairly, no. Depends on our voting system and if a terror attack happens before November.
I know what I've said is tin-foil hat material, but I don't put anything past the crooks in power.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 12:45 PM
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26. No, but I don't think they want him to be elected. He's unoriginal and looks like crap
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:45 PM
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28. Captain Combover
I love it. My new favorite right up there with McCane. :applause:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:46 PM
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29. Depends on how many votes are stolen with tweaked Diebold/ES&S/Sequoia machines.
Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 01:47 PM by BushDespiser12
I believe if we have a real vote count, that you are absolutely correct.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 02:04 PM
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31. There will also be the usual Republican challenges at the polls to slow things down.
Republicans will be up to their usual multiple methods of election fraud. Not just newer and better (less detectable) software tweaks, but also those challenges to voters at the polls to slow the lines down so people give up. And also managing the distribution of voting machines to give too few to Democratic areas. And robocalls and fliers to misdirect voters.

Let's just hope that the Republicans realize they need Democrats again to clean up the Republican messes. Like Clinton took the Reagan Bush I deficits and gave us a surplus. Let's hope they need Barack to clean up for Jeb's presidency.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 01:54 PM
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30. I didnt think that in 2004 either....I honestly didnt think that many
amerikans were that farking stupid. I was wrong.
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Maureen1322 Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 05:45 AM
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33. I agree,
I've learned to never underestimated to stupidity of some voters.
It ain't over 'til it's over.
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grillo7 Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 05:51 AM
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34. Unfortunately, yes
All it would take is for our M$M to take one Obama gaffe (or GOP talking point/smear) to drive his candidacy into the ground just like they did with Gore and Kerry. And you can't discount an October surprise, the Bradley effect, and flat out vote stealing care of Diebold and other swing-state scumbags, like Blackwell and Harris.

McCain 08 is just a joke, but so was Bush. After eight years, I'm cautious of being optimistic, and I have a bad feeling that the early polls we're seeing will tighten this November. I mean, to be the devil's advocate, it should be a blow-out right now, poll-wise, and it's relatively close.
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