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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:37 PM
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Did ABC edit McCain ?
I was watching this week with george hufalufagus, and there was a point when answering questions on the gas tax when mcsame appears to be about to say something along the lines of we know how to change public opinion. Theres a clear edit there and the transcript is broken wierdly as well. Heres the transcript

STEPHANOPOULOS: How would you prevent that?

MCCAIN: We would make them shamed into it. We, of course, know how to -- American public opinion. And we would penalize them, if necessary. But they wouldn't. They would pass it on.

Did they take out another gaffe?

It seems to be a clear snip when you watch the video. Anyone else notice this?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:37 PM
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1. They've declared they're the network for him... No reason to believe they didn't.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:41 PM
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2. I refuse to watch that show... but I believe it is possible, that is why I refuse to watch that show
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:46 PM
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3. I am listening to it right now - haven't gotten there yet but astounded by McCain
Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 08:50 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
Saying if we had followed Obama's preferences in Iraq there would have been genocide?! (1) outrageous (2) there WAS ethnic cleansing anyway! that's part of why violence went down earlier this year!!!!!


edit to add - oh, and Al Qaeda bases in Iraq - that would have happened without the surge....


edit again - "We WERE greeted as liberators" ?????!!!!!


claims he is not questioning Obama's patriotism. George S is actually doing a good job w/ questions.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:25 PM
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14. LOL yea theres a lot of duzy's in there.
so many in fact it almost makes you just ignore them, like you have been desensitized to McCain's gaffs.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:52 PM
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4. Take comfort in this: how will anybody be able to edit a live debate. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:59 PM
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7. I guess mccain won't have to have his answers
fed through a bug in his ear like bush..he seems to be able to come up with lies all on his own.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:04 PM
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8. If McCain wore a bug you would see him putting his hand to his ear and constantly saying
"What?"
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:56 PM
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5. Send it to Keith and to MediaMatters. n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 08:58 PM
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6. That answer really made me laugh out loud
Shame big oil? jesus christ on a cross, what and idiotic thing to say.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:04 PM
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9. got to your snip - I don't think it was an edit - I think it was McCain's brain tripping
George S. had the same confused look on his face he did when McCain was making no sense earlier.

He was avoiding answering the question about how to stop oil companies from absorbing any "gas tax holiday" - his answer was to say, well, public opinion would shame the oil companies and George S. wasn't even buying that.


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5458035 about 7 minutes before the end (player counts down)
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:14 PM
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11. hmm thanks for looking
did you notice that the cut from a staraight facial shot happens exactly where the - - appears in the transcript?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:20 PM
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12. I'm wondering if the cameramen were trying to catch George's reaction
but yeah, a couple of times when McCain was floundering it was off-camera - so in that sense, yeah, they have editing control of the visuals for sure.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:23 PM
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13. Well they can certainly cut away at any point they want.
hmm I am going to have to look at it again now....

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:30 PM
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15. and send in the dogs during questioning! nt
Edited on Sun Jul-27-08 09:30 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:06 PM
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10. Everyone edits Mccain, do they have a choice?!!
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 09:32 PM
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16. Probably. Their bottom lines require maintaining the illusion of a horse-race as long as possible.
Therefore when McWhine fucks up, they have to airbrush his words in order to make him seem competitive.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-08 10:09 PM
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17. With or Without Editting - Mortgage Discussion Made No Sense
I had to rewind the interview a couple of times because it made no sense. McCain began by discussing Federal spending, which caused George S. to say what does that have to do with the mortgage crisis. Then McCain blamed Congressional gridlock on OIL DRILLING, at which point George S. mentioned the mortgage bill that was passed by Congress. McCain kind of mumbled yes it has. George S. asked whether McCain would have voted in favor of it, and McCain said yes, but then criticized the bill for not putting more pressure on the borrower, since it required the lender to police the borrowers. George S. then asked isn't it like corporate welfare? McCain then said yes it is, and George S. asked why vote for it then. Then after a reference to George Will suggesting paying a government salary to execs at Fannie Mae, John McCain suggesting paying them just 1 dollar, and said that someone like Jack Welch would be willing to be CEO at Fannie Mae for $1.00!

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5458035

WTF? Then he suggested more tax breaks for middle class, but then afer George S. asked ASIDE FROM SPENDING, what would John McCain do? John McCain responds by promising to veto any pork barrel spending bill (?!?!?!). McCain simply cannot stray from his talking points.

Gas tax holiday - This is noted above. Shame them? They wouldn't keep the tax break? Huh? Relying on the charity of the oil companies?

Social security - Would not respond directly to private accounts question. Said he would sit down, and everything is on the table. Got a bit testy when George S. tried to bring up quote from McCain. But, would not really discuss what his position was.

Russia out of the G-8. How does throwing Russia out help? McCain referred to President Putin until quickly corrected by George S. (Why correct McCain? C'mon.) Fails to explain how US would unilaterally throw Russia out of G-8 given that all other G-8 countries agrees.

Gay adoption - Family values. Punts to state.

Affirmative Action - Support AZ affirmative action bill after first saying that he did not know about it after George S. reminded him that he supported it. (George S. helps him out AGAIN!).



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