MSNBC says Obama Could've visited the troops if

[Pryderi]

Could Obama have visited the troops without his campaign staff? Hardball inplied that Obama could've visited the troops if he ditched his campaign staff.

[rinsd]

1. Thank you for your concern

[Pryderi]

4. JESUS CHRIST! I'm looking for information! thanks for nothing!

[rinsd]

5. See that search window in the upper right hand corner.

How about using it instead of asking dopey right wing framed questions?

[Pryderi]

7. I'm a goddamned donor to this site as well as the Obama campaign, am on the Dem XC, and a DFA

organizer. I TRIED THE SEARCH BOTH THE GOOGLE AND DU SEARCH OPTIONS!

[rinsd]

8. Putting "obama troops" into the DU search engine returned 5 threads on the subject

Out of the 1st 10 listed.

I guess using the rw smear of "troop snub" did not get you the info you were looking for.

[Pryderi]

10. I used "obama troops". Care to show me the info I was looking for, smartass?

[rinsd]

13. See below

4th, 6th, 8th & 9th links contain DU threads on the subject

http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=obama+troops&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&sa=Search&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en

Google News has hundreds of articles on it.

http://news.google.com/news?q=obama%20troops&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn

[Pryderi]

17. I already know that the Pentagon denied Obama access because campaign staff is not allowed, but

there's nothing about Obama being able to visit if he ditched his campaign staff. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

[writes3000]

19. The Pentagon wasn't clear about that.

They just sent their warning that no campaigning was allowed. No one paid by the campaign could attend.

They never specified whether that included Obama.

Obama took their warning and their rules seriously.

[Pryderi]

20. I just don't like the fact that MSNBC makes it sound that Obama snubbed the troops BECAUSE

he didn't visit the troops without campaign staff.

[writes3000]

22. I agree. Obama visited wounded troops TWICE on the trip. The Pentagon told them to back off.

If Obama had taken on the Pentagon as McCain says he should have done, there would be a story there.

If the Pentagon accused Obama himself of campaigning there because his trip was funded by the campaign, there would have been a story there.

Obama took the warning seriously and decided to call the troops instead.

You have to really, really stretch to claim that Obama had anything beyond good intentions here.

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[MonkeyFunk]

25. You've upset the Knights of Umbrage

[Skittles]

26. LOL - Pryderi

you've run into the bots - good luck with that

[Sparkly]

2. There was no "Troop Snub." nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. The primaries are over.

Have a blessed day.

[Skittles]

27. that is just plain fucking creepy n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

28. this question didn't refer to the primaries

[Diamonique]

6. Yes he could have gone alone, but...

.. since that portion of the trip was the campaign portion -- paid for and set up by the campaign -- it still could have been construed by the RW idiots as using the troops for political purposes.

[writes3000]

9. EDIT YOUR TITLE and I'll be happy to answer all of your questions.

The notion that Obama snubbed the troops is a lie and a smear.

Please edit your title. Thanks.

[Pryderi]

11. done and done

[writes3000]

14. Fantastic and thank you! I'd love to answer your questions. Here are the details.

Obama visited wounded troops in Iraq & Afghanistan as part of the Senate CODEL leg of his trip.

When Obama went to Europe that was paid for by his campaign.

The day before Obama's scheduled visit, the Pentagon told him his trip as planned would violate rules. No campaigning allowed. The specifics of whether Obama could attend by himself were murky at best.

And the hospital was four hours away so changing plans wasn't simple.

Ultimately, the Obama campaign decided that they didn't want to take a chance breaking the Pentagon rules so they scheduled a phone call instead.

[tyedyeto]

15. Why not just answer his questions?

I'd like to know also. Would he, as per the Pentagon, have to go alone? Would his Secret Service detail be able to accompany him?

I kept hearing ALONE, which I take to mean by himself with NO protection. I don't care where he is, that protection should be able to accompany him.

Yes, I know the reasons why he cancelled, but recently it's been put forth that he would have had to make that visit by himself with no other persons allowed.

And yes, I know McSame's ad is a lie and a smear but if I have facts when I encounter freeper-types, I am better prepared to help them dig their own grave, figuratively speaking.

[rinsd]

16. This thread should help

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6551204

[writes3000]

18. The Pentagon said anyone paid by the campaign could not come.

So I would assume that might include Obama's security detail.

The only major non-security person that was scheduled to join Obama was the General who set up the trip.

Even though he was a General, the Pentagon said his arrival would break their rules.

Logically speaking, if the Pentagon is warning you that you are about the break their rules AND be accused of using wounded troops for campaign purposes, most people would choose not to take a chance antagonizing the Pentagon.

[MonkeyFunk]

29. Obama receives Secret Service protection

not paid for by his campaign.

[Pryderi]

24. writes3000 may have the answer when he posted,

"Obama visited wounded troops in Iraq & Afghanistan as part of the Senate CODEL leg of his trip.

When Obama went to Europe that was paid for by his campaign.

The day before Obama's scheduled visit, the Pentagon told him his trip as planned would violate rules. No campaigning allowed. The specifics of whether Obama could attend by himself were murky at best.

And the hospital was four hours away so changing plans wasn't simple.

Ultimately, the Obama campaign decided that they didn't want to take a chance breaking the Pentagon rules so they scheduled a phone call instead."

I just want to make sure I can refute any claim that Obama snubbed the troops.

[Cha]

12. Obama didn't snub the troops..it's a fucking lie..

so why are you perpetuating it?

The mediawhores will stop at fucking nothing and you don't know that by now?