Former Progressive Media 527 Has Become A McCain Fact Check

[Median Democrat]

I admit it. I was a bit pissed by the recent John McCain smears, and I know that Obama is not going to smear McCain back, so I was looking for some payback. I checked out Progressive Media's 527, which is not in existence. However, in their place, they have this John McCain fact check site, which is pretty cool in comparing John McCain to George Bush:

http://progressiveaccountability.org/

McSame on…
Bush White House
McCain


… How to Pay for War

Paul Wolfowitz Said Iraqi Oil Revenues Will Help Pay For Reconstruction. While speaking at a hearing of the Defense Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, said, “And my — a rough recollection — well, I’m — the oil revenues of that country could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but that’s — we’re not dealing with Afghanistan that’s a permanent ward of the international community. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”


McCain Said Iraqi Oil Reserves Would Cover The Cost of War. During an interview with National Journal, McCain said, “Everybody now is talking of post-Saddam Hussein Iraq. I look on it with optimism and hope. As far as the cost is concerned, Iraqis have vast oil reserves and they, I’m sure, would shoulder the cost of the transition.”



… A Mission Accomplished

Standing Under A “Mission Accomplished” Banner, Bush Declared An End To Major Combat Operations. While giving a speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln and standing under a giant “Mission Accomplished” banner, Bush announced, “Major combat operations in Iraq have ended.”


McCain Said Capture Of Saddam Hussein Was A “Mission Accomplished.” During an interview on ABC News “This Week” McCain was asked about the capture of Saddam Hussein and the effect on US Forces. McCain said, “Their morale could not be higher. This is a mission accomplished. They know how much influence Saddam Hussein had on the Iraqi people, how much more difficult it made to get their cooperation. Every member of the military and civilian over there are rejoicing today. It was interesting to see Ambassador Bremer’s emotion. It was well- deserved.”











McSame on…
Bush White House
McCain


… Staying the Course


Bush: “We’ve Got to Stay the Course.” After meeting with the family of a fallen soldier, President Bush told the press, “We’ve got to stay the course and we will stay the course.”


McCain: “We’ve Got to Stay the Course.” In an interview with ABC News, McCain said, “Is Afghanistan perfect, no, we’ve got opium, we’ve got warlords but by God, it’s a heck of a lot better off than it was. And we can to do the same thing in Iraq, we’ve got to stay the course.”



… Cutting and Running

Bush Said The U.S. Will Not Cut and Run. During an interview, President Bush said that Iraqi’s “need to know that we won’t leave the country prematurely. They need to know two things: we’re not going to cut and run; and two, we believe they have the capacity to run their own country.”


McCain Said The U.S. Can’t Cut and Run. According to the Associated Press, McCain said, “We can’t cut and run.” They added, “Bush’s most important ally may be McCain.”



… Military & Political Solutions


Bush: A Military Solution Alone Will Not Stop Violence. According to CNN, “The U.S. will win the war ‘unless we leave before the job is done,’ Bush said. He cautioned, however, that ‘a military solution alone will not stop violence.’”


McCain: A Military Solution Alone Will Not Solve the Problems In Iraq. McCain said, “We all agree a military solution alone will not solve the problems of Iraq. There must be a political agreement among Iraqis that allows all groups to participate in the building of their nation, to share in its resources and to live in peace with each other.”














McSame on…
Bush White House
McCain


… Terrorists Following Us Home

Bush Said The Terrorists Would Follow “Follow Us Home” If The U.S. Withdrew From Iraq. While speaking at the Veterans of Foreign Wars Convention in Kansas City, President Bush said, “Unlike in Vietnam, if we withdraw before the job is done, this enemy will follow us home. And that is why, for the security of the United States of America, we must defeat them overseas so we do not face them in the United States of America.”

McCain Said The Terrorists Would “Follow Us Home” If The U.S. Withdrew From Iraq. As reported in the Atlantic Free Press, McCain said, “I believe al Qaeda would trumpet to the world that they had defeated the United States of America , and I believe that therefore they would try to follow us home.”



… Who To Listen To

Bush Said He Will Listen To “Commanders on the Ground.” During a speech in Parma, Ohio, President Bush said, “I’m going to remind the people in the audience today that troop levels will be decided by our commanders on the ground, not by political figures in Washington, DC, and that we’ve got a plan to lead to victory.”


McCain Said It Was Important To Listen to “Commanders on the Ground.” During a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, General James L. Jones said he “absolutely” relied on commanders on the ground. McCain responded, “I think that’s important. Because there’s a lot of people who are armchair generals who reside here in the air-conditioned comfort of Capitol Hill who somehow do not trust the judgment of some of the finest leaders that our nation has produced, and there will be various proposals about troop reductions, announcing withdrawals which may not comport with conditions on the ground.”



… The Surge’s “Success”

Bush Said The Troop Surge In Iraq Is Working. While speaking to a group of religious broadcasters, President Bush said, “Since the surge began, sectarian killings are down and al-Qaida has been driven from many strongholds it once held. I strongly believe the surge is working and so do the Iraqis.”


McCain Said The Troop Surge Is Working. When as ked if he believed if there was a connection between his political success and the condition in Iraq, McCain answered, “I do. The conditions on the ground have improved. The surge is working. If it weren’t, we’d be in a different place right now, no question.”



McSame on…
Bush White House
McCain


… Waving The White Flag of Surrender

Bush Accused Democrats of Waving The “White Flag of Surrender.” While speaking at a fundraiser for Sen. Jim Talent, Bush said, “There’s a group in the opposition party who are willing to retreat before the mission is done. They’re willing to wave the white flag of surrender. And if they succeed, the United States will be worse off, and the world will be worse off.”


McCain Accused Democrats of Raising The “White Flag of Surrender.” According to Agence France Presse, McCain said, “I’m so proud of the jobs that the men and women in the military are doing there, and they don’t want us to raise the white flag of surrender like Senator Clinton does.”



… al Qaeda

Bush: “Al Qaeda Is On The Run In Iraq.” During the 2008 State of the Union address, President Bush said, “Ladies and gentlemen, some may deny the surge is working, but among the terrorists there is no doubt. Al Qaeda is on the run in Iraq, and this enemy will be defeated.” <2008 State of the Union, 1/28/08; emphasis added>


McCain: We Are Succeeding In Iraq, Al Qaeda Is On The Run. While speaking at a town hall meeting in Exeter, New Hampshire, McCain said, “We are succeeding in Iraq, we are succeeding in Iraq. The new strategy and surge is succeeding. But I also warn you, if you forget everything I have mentioned, please remember this, Al Qaeda is on the run but not defeated.”

[Gabi Hayes]

1. well, so far, it's you and me.

maybe ten or twenty others that know about this

the story of this campaign, as it always was and always will be, in the videos era:

if you don't see it on TV, it didn't happen. even this debunking, if shown on TV, is TOO LONG, too complicated for the average news consumer

they get the lies doled out in snappy sound bites, reduced to their levels of comprehension and attention

that's all it takes, and it's all they have time for in their busy lives

they deserve a break today

at McCainold's

[Median Democrat]

2. I've Given To The Campaign, But Was Looking For A Pro-Democrat 527

To satisfy that urge to pound on John McCain for all the recent BS he has been spreading. I'll refrain for now, and continue to direct the money to Obama, since he's done a great job campaigning so far. Heck, the worse criticism he's getting is that he is too presidential, which I will take any day of the week.

[Gabi Hayes]

3. don't get me wrong...I like what that site has to say, I just think it's going to take

a massive TRUTH retaliation against McCain's vile campaign, and it's going to take a concerted effort by Obama and some STEELY surrogates who will FORCE THEIR agenda to be acknowledged on TV, which means NOT accepting the parameters of discussion proferred by the jerkwads who try to control the political dialogue.


they have to debate any premise of discussion that doesn't include just how venal and mendacious the McCain campaign has become. if they have to filibuster, and refuse to give up the mic, so be it, cause that's how the other side plays. they never deal with substantive issues, only in fear, paranoia, wedge issues....you know what I mean.

if dems don't learn how to play the game (and after all this time it DISGUSTS me that they don't/won't learn.....I can do it, and call into radio shows all the time, where I get my points across without much difficulty...why can't they?)they almost eserve to lose.

[Median Democrat]

4. Well, If You Know Of A Pro-Democrat 527

I'm all ears. I understand that moveon.org has shut its doors. I am not sure whether I would give money to one right now, but if I need to blow off some steam, I might just do in a moment of a weakness. For now, I am content to give to the campaign as I am able whenever a Fox News broadcast pisses me off.