Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:23 PM
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PLEASE,PLEASE!!for the sake of humanity-for the sake of the peace of world-A.B.B. ANYBODY BUT BAYH!! |
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Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 12:24 PM by Douglas Carpenter
"- A.B.B. - ANYBODY BUT BAYH!!
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/bayh_as_veep_he_cochaired_wing.php
"In 2003, Bayh was an honorary co-chair of the neocon pro-war Committee for the Liberation of Iraq -- a group he joined along with none other than John McCain and Joe Lieberman, according to a press release from during the run-up to the invasion.
Check this out, from the group's press release on February 14th, 2003 (via Nexis):
The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) is pleased to welcome Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) as an Honorary Co-Chairman. Bayh becomes the third U.S. Senator to join the committee after Sens. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) announced their participation on January 28.
The Committee is a neo-con group that was formed to propagandize the country into war. It boasted such illustrious neocon members as Bill Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey, and even McCain senior foreign policy adviser and Chalabi-bamboozler Randy Scheunemann, whom Josh has been blogging about.
Bayh would, to put it very charitably, muddle Obama's message. It's true that Bayh was said to have subsequently removed himself from the group. But Obama's campaign is partly about -- and rightly so -- the judgment he made, and others didn't, in the run-up to the invasion.
The McCain campaign and the Repubs would have a grand time mocking the choice. Indeed, the McCain camp is already trying to make an issue of Bayh's past."."
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:30 PM
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1. Hey Evan Bayh knows what's important! |
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Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 12:50 PM by YOY
Video games corrupting our youth! It's a great DLC reacharound to the soccermoms and NASCAR dads!
You're just not thinking of the children.
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:31 PM
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2. Make it easy: ABDLC! He's only one of many who should be passed by! |
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Tue Jul-29-08 09:17 PM
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5. ideally I would agree. But these are desperate times and I would say ABBN - ANYBODY BUT NEOCONS |
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there dlc'ers and there are dlc'ers. Some are definitely foreign policy neoconservatives - some are not. Evan Bayh is a a dlc'er who is also a foreign policy neoconservative.
If one of these nuts ends up influencing American foreign policy, hope for peace in the Middle East are dashed and the likelihood of new imperial wars in the Middle East are dramatically escalated.
If America finds itself going down this road, the the direct and indirect human suffering caused by this lunacy is more than anything we can ever imagine and the current mess we are in will look like a Sunday school picnic. And we can rest assured that with a wrecked economy caused by stratospheric oil prices, and a bankrupted budget deficit caused by un-winnable and intractable conflict will so massively exceed anything we have already seen even under Bush and Cheney - there will be nothing left for social and infrastructure improvements to move our country forward.
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Tue Jul-29-08 12:37 PM
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3. I have little sypathy for Dems with poor choices -- after the venom directed at Webb, Kerry, Hagel |
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Tue Jul-29-08 08:48 PM
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4. one kick for the next shift |
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Tue Jul-29-08 09:24 PM
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6. I have just two words for Evan Bayh.... |
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:11 PM
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:34 PM
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And that's saying something.
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:36 PM
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10. Why do you think Biden is so horrible? nt |
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:41 PM
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11. Biden is a hawk. ANYONE who is going to be selected is going to be a hawk |
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Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 10:46 PM by Douglas Carpenter
That is not what I want. I would rather see someone genuinely focused on peace.
But, at least Biden is NOT an ideological foreign policy neoconservative like Bayh.
When all is done and said I back the viable candidate who actually might win and who would be less likely to turn the Middle East into a blood bath.
When I see other single issue focused posters demanding uncompromising compliance to a demanding strident line...I feel somewhat jealous. All I am asking for are candidates who are less likely to rain death and carnage on the Middle East. I really don't see how that can be described as demanding perfection.
Of those under serious consideration, again I say, ABB - ANYBODY BUT BAYH!!
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Tue Jul-29-08 10:46 PM
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12. I've loathed Biden for 20+ years |
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From his deep ties to the Delaware credit card banking crooks, to his multiple bend-over-without-the-Crisco defenses of Bush (right up until his about-face 2008 campaign, naturally), Biden (D-MBNA) is a total loss. His touted "foreign policy expertise" is warmed-over, second-rate, NeoCon Lite. If Obama picks this entrenched, corrupt, and congenitally dishonest scumbag as his VP, there goes any credibility with the 'change' mantra.
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