wndycty
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:42 AM
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Something we need to remember about an Obama presidency, he is a Black man and will be held to. . . |
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. . .a different standard.
Even after he is sworn in he will not be afforded the respect that comes with the office. I look at how he is constantly being called arrogant, I look at Milbanks column, I look at the reaction to the overseas trip and I realize that there is a very large segment of the population and the media who will treat him like a second class president.
You look at how his patriotism is constantly questioned, you look at how different Rev. Wright was handled vs. Pastor Hagee etc. and you know he is going to be treated like shit.
Sure the press does fawn over him in ways that they have never ever fawned over other candidates but they are also more comfortable saying negative things about him that they would never ever say about other folks.
GOBAMA, I'm with you until the end. Ignore the haters but you and I both know you will see more hate than any candidate (and potentially any president) ever has.
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:47 AM
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1. I'm truly puzzled by the arrogant talking point. |
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It probably is code for uppity. Obama exudes confidence, not arrogance.
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:49 AM
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3. Not even code; Jonathan Capehart uttered that word this a.m. |
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That's the word of the day apparently.
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:48 AM
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2. I agree, but also think once he starts to get things done, |
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make positive changes for us all, he will gain the respect he deserves. There will always be bigots out there who won't ever get past his color, but to me, that's their loss. GOBAMA, I'm also with him, and have lots of confidence in this man.
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:52 AM
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4. I watched how Harold Washington was disrespected in Chicago. . . |
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. . .he became beloved after he was re-elected but they treated him like shit his first term.
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:51 AM
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15. The republicans will go berserk as long as he is in office... |
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just like they did for eight years when Bill Clinton was president. The media will go berserk right along with them. It is what they do.
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:55 AM
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5. That was true during the primaries. I will be true during the GE and into |
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his presidency if he wins. I have never seen anything like this but I can absolutely relate. He is held to much higher standards. McSame can get away with outrageous lies, mistatements and the mangling of the English language. Think about this: if Obama spoke the way Dumbya speaks...would this country tolerate that? White America would be outraged that we have an Ebonics-speaking president who can't string a coherent sentence together. (Note: nothing wrong with Ebonics, but there's a time, place and context for it.)
Here we have a man who worked his way up from nothing. He did everything White Society told him to do, including the Repuke mantra that emphasizes personal responsibility and individual achievement. He and his wife excelled in school and have just recently paid off their school loans. They could have taken a cozy job making millions practicing corporate law but decided to give back to their community instead. This black man and woman did everything right! It's so frustrating as a black woman observing this because *I* did everything right and it's still not good enough. You have to work twice, three times harder and still isn't good enough.
Compare the Obamas' life story to that of George "Dumbya" Bush and John McSame. These two have had everything provided for them. They've never had to work hard a day in their miserable lives. They are underachievers and despicable human beings. And yet they get a pass; they are allowed to make incredible mistakes and are accountable to no one.
The fact that the average American cannot fully understand how racism and sexism impact the daily lives of women and minorities in so many ways that aren't necessarily evident is so frustrating. When I hear people assert that we have come a long way, sure we have, but just because these "isms" aren't explicit or at the surface does not mean that they're are no longer major problems.
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Wed Jul-30-08 06:59 AM
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6. If a woman were elected Pres., she's have a different standard also....n/t |
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:02 AM
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9. True - Discrimination against both women and minorities is still rampant in this country n/t |
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:02 AM
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10. A woman is always held to a different standard period. |
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:00 AM
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And he's a Democrat, too! He'll be scrutinized.
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:01 AM
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8. You're right - he'll be held to a higher standard. |
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:06 AM
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11. Higher standards are good but the motivation for holding him to a higher standard. . . |
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. . .has nothing to do with the good of this country, it has everything to do with treating the Black candidate differently.
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:07 AM
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12. Look - Coming After 8 Years Of * I Believe That ........ |
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people have developed low expectations of their leaders. * has provided us an expectation of a highly partisan stubborn inarticulate doofus and John McCain has also kind of aspired to that same standard of *. I guess that the Repugs are comfortable with that image. Probably the MSM - which has been imbedded in this administration from probably before they took office - has acquiesced to this same image and the rest of us are accepting because we have to tolerate it - because we have had no choice but to accept it.
Now all of a sudden someone - Obama - comes along and is the complete opposite of *.
And you know what - it is so completely foreign to us that we don't - and particularly the media - doesn't know how to deal with the likes of an Obama yet.
As a result - they see him coming off as Presidential before his time - because - we/they don't know what Presidential is anymore - and someone that is actually displaying Presidential qualities is looked at as being - presumptuous.
Well deal with it people - he is our presumptive nominee.
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:17 AM
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13. Racism is definitely an undercurrent in this country. |
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I pray he stays safe and wary. It is a different thing to be Senator of a district and President. I wonder what the White Supremacist or the New Order is saying about him. :dem:
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:25 AM
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14. Just as I said earlier... |
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"Presumtuous" is the new "uppity."
As long as 90% of African-American voters are FOR Obama, 60% of Whites will be against him simply because of the fact. It's a simple truism: We live in a sad society.
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Wed Jul-30-08 07:54 AM
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16. hahaha - he already is. Typicaly DUer: "OMG - I can't believe he's not up 20!".... |
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"Why doesn't he do this or that? OMG it's the worst campaign EVER!"
:rofl:
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