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Wed Jul-30-08 09:04 AM
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Poll question: VP Choices Ideology Poll |
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Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 09:33 AM by mrone2
There has been some discussion about the prospect of a Kaine VP choice and some concern in the LGBT community about his position on civil rights issues as they regard the LGBT community. I think it is safe to say that other possibilities such as Webb or Bayh can also be considered social conservatives when it comes to LGBT issues. That being the case, I am curious as to where the majority of Democrats regardless of orientation shake out on these issues when considering a VP choice. How will the VP candidates history with regard to civil rights issues for the LGBT community affect your support? I chose not to post this in the LGBT forum because I am interested in the views of all Democrats, not just LGBT Democrats.
IF YOU STOP BY PLEASE TAKE A BRIEF SECOND TO CAST YOUR VOTE.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:06 AM
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...dont really give a sh*t who the VP is. I voted for Gore, despite being really disappointed with Lieberman as his VP pick. Obamas choice couldn't possibly be worse.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:08 AM
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2. I can't believe anyone here would not think that LGBT issues should be... |
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among the things considered in selectin a running mate.
There are, I'm sure, homophobes among American registered democrats, but among progressives?
:shrug:
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:31 AM
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5. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I dont want to discourage folks from voting their |
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personal views here. I understand and appreciate your point, but I am afraid it may make some here reluctant to vote their actual stand in regard to this issue.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:45 AM
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7. As I read the poll choices: |
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"not personally important to me" is one thing, "should not be considered" is another.
That makes it a compound question.
I might not care about an issue, but still understand the importance that the issue be considered.
In such a case I wouldn't know how to vote.
Nonetheless, it's an interesting poll, thanks.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:48 AM
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8. Thats a valid observation and in hind site should have crafted it that way |
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unfortunately I cannot modify it at this point.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:13 AM
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A candidates stand on civil rights with respect to the LGBT community is of some importance to me personally but I don't consider it a deal breaker either way.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:20 AM
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4. There are always other "options" to any poll |
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but I really wanted to keep this simple. Either it should be a consideration or it should not.
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:42 AM
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6. There is no reason to question anything. GoBama! |
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:10 AM
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11. There's no reason to question anything? Sorry, but I don't agree with that at ALL |
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In fact, I can't even fathom what would cause someone to believe that.
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:12 AM
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12. GoBama! To question the campaign is to undermine Obama. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 11:13 AM by Marrah_G
I know this because I have been re-educated by DU. I now know how to think correctly.
Gobama!
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NorthCarolina
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:14 AM
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13. Ummm, that's pretty silly don't you think? Or is this your form of a *joke* |
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Shouldn't you have included the "sarcasm" thing in your post?
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:17 AM
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15. And, as the reality of Hillary's nonexistent VP prospects sinks in, |
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the Hillary supporters go through a second Great Sarcasmic Spasm.
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:18 AM
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Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 12:12 PM by Marrah_G
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:23 AM
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18. The thought police are on to you. |
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:32 AM
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Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 12:16 PM by Marrah_G
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NorthCarolina
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:25 AM
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19. OK, I get it now thanks to post #15 |
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this "to question is to undermine" stuff is a kind of back door approach to the "messiah" or "kool aid drinker" charge. Clever....sort of.:freak:
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:29 AM
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:50 AM
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9. Wow. This is a push poll worthy of FoxNews. nt |
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Wed Jul-30-08 09:55 AM
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10. How so? It's pretty much limited to whether it should be a consideration or not |
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what's wrong with that? Nowhere does it cast judgment on anyone voting either way, nor does it coerce anyone to vote one way or another.
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:16 AM
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The real break here is not between "absolutely no concern" and "concern exists," but rather between "should be a concern, but one of many," and "should be a concern that overrides all others."
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:20 AM
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17. I disagree, I think all issues can be defined by voters as being |
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personally "of concern" or "not of concern".
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:28 AM
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21. It might look like that to a purist. Most people are concerned about most issues. |
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It's a matter of which overrides which.
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:27 AM
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20. I'll never tell anyone else what is important on this |
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I am pro-GLBT rights and will leave it at that. As a straight person, I will not judge for others how important the issues are.
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Wed Jul-30-08 11:39 AM
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24. I think it should be a consideration. All people should have the |
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same civil rights.
I also think that people's views change over the years so we must be careful not to count someone as anti-LGBT for something they believed previously but may not believe now.
After all, what we want is for people to grow and learn. Therefore we must be accepting when people's views change over time.
I am a case in point. I was raised as a fundy republican. And I cannot tell you how wrong I was on just about every issue until life experience and a good education taught me otherwise.
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Wed Jul-30-08 04:05 PM
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25. The thing is, if you are running for public office |
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you should be very clear on where you stand on issues. If you are ambiguous about your position then how can people make an informed choice on whether to vote for you or not?
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Thu Jul-31-08 04:07 AM
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26. Civil unions are a deal-breaker for me |
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If you're going to support the traditional definition of marriage, fine.
But don't tell me that my future husband and I shouldn't have the same domestic protections as straights, and then have the nerve to turn around and ask me for your vote!
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Thu Jul-31-08 07:34 AM
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27. It seems hard to believe that in the year 2008 |
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it is difficult for legislators to defend the principle of equal rights for all in America. We definitely took a large step backwards at some point in recent history, and because of the conservative shift in the Democratic party, they are really no better than their GOP counterparts when it comes to social justice issues.
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