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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:19 AM
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On The View they're saying Obama released his own prayer??
And Barbara said Obama's not Jewish anyway so his prayer isn't entitled to the same privacy.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:21 AM
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1. the view is my prime source of news.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:23 AM
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2. :rofl:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:17 AM
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28. Well, unfortunately, it may be for millions of people
So they have a responsibility to report the truth.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:28 PM
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40. It doesn't matter..there's a lot of women who
listen to that shit..that's why a lot of us don't like it that the fascist neocon on the show has such a big mouth and megaphone.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:23 AM
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3. Repeating RW smears. This has been debunked.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:32 AM
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8. I read somewhere that the campaign had released the prayer. Please provide a link to the debunking
to help put that to rest.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:41 AM
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12. It was on DU yesterday, on the Israel forum, but has since been removed--
the paper that published the note said that it had been "approved for international publication", which the campaign denies, and that Obama was not entitled to privacy because he is not a Jew. These are legal defenses being raised, because there is some talk of an investigation of the newspaper for printing the note. Another spokesperson for that same paper later said it had NOT gotten prior approval to print the prayer. The rabbi who did it already apologized. This story is simply not true.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:43 AM
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16. The PUMA shitheads are spreading it.
No doubt someone on the staff of the View reads those hate sites.

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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:43 AM
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33. It wasn't a rabbi. It was a yeshiva student who did that.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:41 AM
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13. Right here:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:42 AM
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14. Thanks.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:08 AM
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25. Edit
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 11:10 AM by writes3000
wrong spot
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:59 AM
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23. You're seriously asking someone else to disprove what you "read somewhere"?
That's rich. :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:30 PM
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41. Yeah, go figure..
the mentality of that.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:16 AM
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27. Uggh... I'm so sick of them spreading untruths on that show
You'd think they would at least do a tiny bit of research before spouting BS... then again, I think maybe it's time that an Obama aide attended every show to correct them daily when they spout their lies. :mad:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:25 AM
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4. The View??????? GoBama!
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 10:25 AM by Marrah_G
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:35 AM
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10. Hilarious that The View is considered to be any source for news
whatsoever, huh? Good Lord.

And yeah, GoBama! :)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:33 PM
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42. It's not that it's a source for news..it's that it has
a big bully pulpit and spreading rw propaganda is hurting our Democracy.

They need to be held accountable for this.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:45 PM
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49. Oh absolutely. I emailed them already. I just meant that it's
absolutely crazy that some folks would believe what they hear on The View and take it as "news."

And funny thing, but I expect that blonde girl and Walters to be right wing. And that other really religious girl, too. But I had expected much more from Whoopi. So she is the one I'm most disappointed in.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 01:03 PM
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57. And Joy Behar..let's not forget her
..it's reported she went right along with this propaganda without checking it out.

Thanks for contacting them, Jennifer!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 01:06 PM
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58. OMG. And I always liked her at least a little bit. Now that
REALLY pisses me off.

Do they have to score an IQ that is LOW enough to get on that show? Like nothing above 80?

I might send another email now just addressed to Joy.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 01:15 PM
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59. Thanks, and have you rec'd this thread 'cause
there's only two recs and I think it needs to be seen by even more.:)
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 01:16 PM
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60. Doh! No, I haven't. But I will right this very minute. :) nt
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:26 AM
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5. Was this the little blonde RW girl, or introduced as an actual story on the view?
This was a smear from an Israeli neo-con rag that has been debunked. Not a surprise that it's popping up on our little neo-con Disney outlet.
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:27 AM
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6. They all talked about it as if it was true. Sherry said she was disappointed in Obama. Joy said it
was a mistake.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:33 AM
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9. More swiftboating in action. The campaign has denied this, and
a spokesman for the newspaper in question who raised the allegation also denies it.
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:38 AM
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11. I know that but apparently the assholes on the View don't. So they just spread misinformation to
millions. The Obama campaign need to get them to correct themselves on air.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:46 AM
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34. Sherri? You mean, the one who thinks the world is flat??
Oh, I so care what her political affiliations are.

How can they have that ignoramus on a nationally syndicated show?
Is there no one more qualified??

What were they thinking?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:38 PM
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44. They look like stupid play yard gossipers and
they need to correct their stupid mouth selves with a big ol apology to Obama.

Rec'd~
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:27 AM
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7. Oh bullshit Barbara.
Jews respect the prayers of all people whether they are Jewish or not. Interfering with his prayer is a violation of a sacred relationship between a man and his God. The rabbis came out and denounced this violation... but now the illustrious Barbara says it's ok?

Yeah. Whatever.

I hate The View.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:36 PM
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43. barbara walters is just bowing and scraping to her corporate
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 12:37 PM by zidzi
abc masters and acting like she knows shit.

Rec'd~ Get this is the greatest page!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:43 AM
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15. The Rabbi disagrees.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:46 AM
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17. The Obama campaign should contact the View and demand a retraction.
And an apology.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:40 PM
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45. Exactly...and we shouldn't let this go down the memory hole.
Rec'd.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:49 AM
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18. Of course Elisabeth is voicing her "view" and
said it speaks "volumes" about Obama and his "manipulating"...:eyes:

She is such a rwing tool.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:42 PM
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47. It wasn't just elizatbeth propaganda mouth.
They need to be contacted and made to give an apology to Obama.

Rec'd.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:50 AM
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19. Pretty much what Sean Hannity said yesterday. I didn't know the folks on The View got their news
from Hannity, et al at Fox. Hmmmmm.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:43 PM
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48. elizatbeth goes on hannity and says shit and
now they're all spouting his lies. They need to be contacted and held responsible until they apologize.

Rec'd.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:48 PM
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52. Ahhh, so that's the connection. I don't watch The View, but, I thought some of the other women were
a bit more discerning of their news and rumors. Guess not.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:52 AM
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20. The person who took it and gave it to the press has admitted to it
He was a yeshiva student, and he has apologized. Obama and his campaign did not release it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:46 PM
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50. Tell that to the view..
please.

FLDem5 (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-30-08 12:23 PM
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If you have a moment, please conatct The View re: Obama's prayer
http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/ask

They were discussing how wrong it was for him to release his prayer for publicity.

Here is a link to some articles stating the prayer was stolen, he didn't release it.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/politics/article/obamas_no... /

The yeshiva student who pried Barack Obama’s prayer note from the Western Wall apologized Sunday.

Identified only by the first initial of his name, Alef, and with his face obscured, the student went on Israel’s Channel 2 television to confess that he took the presidential contender’s note last week and passed it to the press.

The resulting coverage of Obama’s private, handwritten musings on hope and sin added to the mystique of his campaign visit to Israel but drew international criticism, including from leading rabbis who said Jewish morality had been compromised by the publication.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/07/...

The theft--by a student at a local yeshiva--was quickly condemned by the religious figures in charge of the wall. "The notes placed between the stones of the Western Wall are between a person and his maker," Shmuel Rabinovitz, the rabbi who manages the site, told a local radio station. "It is forbidden to read them or make any use of them." Rabinovitz and his colleagues do occasionally round up the notes to make more space, but those prayers are then buried unread on the nearby Mount of Olives. In Obama's case, the yeshiva student ultimately returned the note, but by then newspapers around the world had published its contents.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6559899
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:55 AM
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21. I emailed the view with the link clarifying...
but I sure Elisabeth will find something else ...:eyes:
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:58 AM
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22. Can you give me the email address? I want to email about this as well. n/t
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:00 AM
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24. here ya go
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:09 AM
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26. Thank you. I just emailed. I encourage others to do the same.
I'd like them to admit that they were fooled by a slanderous smear. And I'd like them to admit that there are people out there who are spending their entire days putting out lies.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:20 AM
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29. Yeah. I will try to email Obama's campaign too
to try to get them to send a volunteer to the View everyday to correct their smears immediately.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:27 AM
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32. I just emailed The View, too. Sorry RW tools that they are. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:49 PM
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54. Thank you, THAL!
This shall not go unanswered until an apology is given..I don't care if they're on "hiatus"..give it when they get back or they will forever be branded as propagandists. I don't Think they want that.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:47 AM
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35. Already did.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:03 PM
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38. I did too. And "Fight the Smears" asking them to contact The View
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 12:04 PM by tishaLA
Here's what I wrote:

Hi,

This morning, all the members of The View panel repeated a recent RW smear that Sen Obama released his Western Wall prayer to the press. This seems not to be the case, according to this article: http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/07/29/obama-vindicated.aspx

PLEASE contact The View--its audience has lots of women of a demographic Sen Obama needs--and ask them to correct this story and offer an apology. I'd also suggest that you ask them to talk AT LENGTH about the way false stories about Sen Obama (and, I suppose, about McCain) go mainstream and how this lie was a prime example of it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:47 PM
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51. It wasn't just elizabeth this time..she's infecting
all them with hannity lying talking points.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:21 AM
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30. Let's get the view off the air NOW
we cannot let such hate speech disrupt the peace.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:24 AM
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31. How about we just insist that they tell the truth? n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:49 PM
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53. No, they must be crushed
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:47 AM
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36. Barbara Walters is saying the Holy Site Rabbi is a liar?
The Rabbi has stated that all prayers deserve the same protection.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:03 PM
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37. Fuck “The View”.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 12:27 PM by LowerManhattanite
It's little more than “Dr. Phil” on a Boneva overdose.

The fact that it is a proud forum for two—not one—two—of the stupidest pontificators on TV, Elisabeth (“Desperacy”) Hasselbeck and Sherry (“Flat Earth”) Shepherd tells you everything you need to know about the program. And Babs' hypocrisy on adultery makes her an utter joke as anyone even pretending at integrity.

And after their getting caught out there on the “newsbreaking” tip with their Clinton's quitting goof...please.

SNL's “Coffee Talk” had more gravitas.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:21 PM
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39. The show is an embarrassment to women
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 12:21 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
Untrue information being passed off as fact on a daily basis, a RW troll, the constant "cat" fights...

I expect more from us. Not something that rivals Bill O'Reilly's disgust factor.
:eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:52 PM
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55. Well, fucking low information voters suck it up...
the operative words being voters and low information so they need to apologize and the sooner the better.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:40 PM
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46. My message to The View
What evidence do you have that the Obama campaign released his prayer to the media? The McCain campaign perhaps? Or Sean Hannity/Fox News?

And to further state that since Obama is not a Jew , his prayer isn't
confidential is offensive.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

In response, a Ma'ariv spokesman said that "Barack Obama's note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel, a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. In any case, since Obama is not a Jew, publishing the note does not constitute an infringement on his right to privacy."

Obama's campaign has neither confirmed nor denied whether the prayer published by Ma'ariv was in fact written by Obama. A campaign spokesman, however, made clear that the campaign hadn't approved the publication of any kind of prayer note.



The Senator and his supporters deserve an apology and the matter needs to be addressed on the air.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 12:54 PM
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56. Thank you...they need to
hear from all of us!
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