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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:28 PM
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New CNN poll Obama 51 McCain 44
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/30/poll-shows-obamas-trip-didnt-change-race/
Poll shows Obama's trip didn't change race
Posted: 04:13 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


Obama's trip abroad did little to alter the presidential race.
(CNN) — It was a weeklong trip that drew blanket media coverage and sharp criticism from Republicans, but Barack Obama's recent tour abroad did little to alter the standing of the presidential race, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll shows.

According to the survey — the first national poll conducted entirely after the Democratic presidential candidate's trip to Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Europe — the race for the White House has remained virtually unchanged since late June, with Obama holding a 51-44 percent edge over Sen. John McCain. In a similar poll conducted one month ago, Obama held a 5-point lead over the senator from Arizona , 50-45 percent.

The CNN poll of polls, an average of several recent national surveys, tells the same story — a single-digit lead for Obama (48-45 percent) that keeps McCain within easy striking distance of his Democratic rival with less than 100 days before voters weigh in at the polls.

The new survey also suggests the trip — carefully designed to burnish Obama's foreign policy credentials — did little to alter voters' perceptions of how the Illinois senator would handle national security issues.

"Did Obama's trip help his standing with the public on foreign policy issues? Not really," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "Obama has not picked up any ground against McCain on foreign issues and some 52 percent think McCain would do a better job than Obama on the war in Iraq — virtually the same number who felt that way in April."

The poll also shows the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has an edge on terrorism, Iran, Afghanistan and the Middle East — in fact, every foreign policy and national security issue addressed tilts toward McCain. (Terrorism, Afghanistan, Iraq, Middle East, Iran, and Immigration.)

But in what is good news for Obama, the poll suggests few of the McCain campaign's criticisms of the trip have stuck — especially charges Obama was presumptuously acting as if he had already won the election, and claims he nixed a visit with injured troops because members of the media could not accompany him.

Instead, more than two-thirds of voters surveyed said the trip was appropriate for a presidential candidate, and 72 percent think Obama cares abut veterans and the troops currently in Iraq.

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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:30 PM
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1. K & R!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:31 PM
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2. Trust me. Th eonly reason McCain is close is because of the Hillary supporters holding out
Thats the sad truth. Makes no sense to me. McCain is against every thing Hillary stands for
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:31 PM
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3. he broke 50 - there goes another talking point! Why can't McCain close the deal?
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Got WMD Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:47 PM
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13. Move along... nothing to see here...
you need to focus on the fact that the "arrogant" Obama can't break 50% in ANY polls. Why can't he "connect" with "real" Americans, "you know, white people"?

*quotes courtesy of Chris Matthews
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:55 PM
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17. Oh but Tweety said Obama never breaks 50! nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:56 PM
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19. then this poll should be referred to as "an outlier"
from now on.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:31 PM
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4. My reading is 61 . . . 34 . . .
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:36 PM
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5. McCain's scurrilous attacks have done little to alter the presidential race.
Alternate headline.
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:39 PM
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7. Yeah and Obama went UP 2. You know if he would have gone down 2 they would have said he was dropping
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:38 PM
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6. Sounds good to me.
What's with the pessimistic commentary?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:41 PM
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9. I know what you mean.
It's a shame that Democrats can't get a break when it comes to foreign policy issues, but I think most people give the edge to McCain because he used to be in the Navy.

Other than that, the poll is good since McCain's stupid attacks didn't hurt Obama at all. And most people know that Obama cares about the troops.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:42 PM
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10. Let's see
People really aren't paying attention yet
The media did this with their coverage of his trip
This differs from the recent trend of McCain..uh.. not losing by as much as before
McCain has him RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS HIM!!!

Any of those will do :rofl:
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:41 PM
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8. He broke 50%
That is huge.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:44 PM
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11. Yes it is
(member of the media screaming to his cohorts) THIS GUY WON'T GO DOWN!!! :grr::mad:

(people who own DC) :scared:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:44 PM
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12. exactly what I thought
I've been waiting for this. And I am VERY happy to see it finally happen.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:48 PM
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14. pretty accurate this time
BTW keeping McCain out of the media is significant even if they don't see a bounce.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:50 PM
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15. " Obama's trip didn't change race" LOL...he's still black? OH NOES!11!!q
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:54 PM
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16. Of course they make it sound like big deal so what Obama's only 7-points ahead.
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dontforgetpoland Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:55 PM
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18. Bad cnn headline for this poll.


"Poll shows Obama's trip didn't change race"

Instead of just saying, Obama maintain lead in race. They almost always have to put a negative spin toward Obama. They always want to suggest that this race is neck-to-neck.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:58 PM
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20. I see Halperin and First Read don't have links yet. Wonder why? Also, which
polling firm did the poll? Doesn't CNN use Gallup?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 03:58 PM
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21. I can't believe that many people think McCain should be President
But then again 60 mill voted for Bush the second time
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:11 PM
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22. Whats does Barr & Nader do in this poll?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:22 PM
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23. Look for Lou to be hopelessly rabid tonight... nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:35 PM
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24. Apparently they couldn't spin the good news part at the end
so they were forced to print it as-is.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:43 PM
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25. I've said for a while now Obama will win this thing by 5-7 points.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 04:44 PM by Drunken Irishman
And I stand by that. People might expect a blowout, but the last time an incumbent party lost the White House by more than 10-points was Hoover back in 1932. Even Reagan, in 1980, only beat Carter by 9.7-points. A blowout for sure, but not the type of blowout we saw 4 years later.

Obama won't get a 10-point victory, but he'll win by 6 or so points. Watch.
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