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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:53 PM
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The McCain Camp Walked Right Into Our Trap By Going So Negative, Now They're The "Same Old Politics"
I love how the Obama camp sat back for weeks and just let the McCain camp go negative. After they released 4 or 5 negative adds, they were branded the more negative camp and the Obama team is now hitting them with the "same old politics" line.

From this time forward, the McCain camp will be the same old politics because they went so negative first. And by making him the "same old politics" the Obama camp is also associating McCain with the past. Past = old. McCain also looks angry (grumpy) as a result of his negativity.

It was a brilliant strategy and I think now that it's been put into effect, the Obama rapid response has been turned on and they be hitting back immediately.

A lot of you thought Obama was taking the high road, or being a wimp...no mis amigos. He was just waiting for the McCain people to walk into the trap that had been laid out for them. And now it's game on.

Play ball!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:54 PM
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1. This campaign has been brilliant. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:55 PM
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2. Thank gawd he didn't take federal matching funds.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:56 PM
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3. No Country for Old Leaders and Old Ideas...McWimp is Limp....
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:03 PM
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4. I told you this earlier when everybody was going crazy about Obama not fighting back
I told you Obama is not a Reactionary, he is a Strategist.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:13 PM
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9. That ad SUCKS and will not get any airplay to counter McCain's crap. YOU are and were wrong.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 06:14 PM by cryingshame
that ad will be seen on the internet by some Democrats and some airtime where they buy time.

It will NOT get the same attention from the Mediawhores because it is run of the mill pabulum.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:21 PM
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13. hope you (and I) are wrong, but saw the McCain ad SIX times in less than three hours
on CNN/MSNBC

I saw the Obama ad once

surprised?

that's about par for the course, except I'm surprised they play the O add even once

I hope the OP is correct, but seeing as how the ENTIRE McCampaign is centered around painting Obama in a hideous light, turning him into a monster, unfit to walk the streets, let alone lead a parade, you won't see this tactic go away, because it's ALL they've got

it's all the republicans have EVER run on.....since 1988 at least (giving Reagan a break for running almost as positive as negative campaigns, cause they didn't have to do anything else.....oops, forgot about the October Surprise. that was actually crucial to his winning against Carter). they HAVE nothing to run on, besides their taxcut panacea

everything else is fear and lies
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:03 PM
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16. who said anything about an ad, I'm talking about a strategy
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 10:03 PM by JackORoses
nevermind.

continue flailing about.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:03 PM
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5. Except negative campaigning works
And saying "fie on you" for being negative may not reverse the damage that has already been done. I'm not saying that damage was unavoidable; McCain was going to attack at some point and no campaign can react instantaneously. I just don't know if setting that kind of "trap", if they actually did that, has rewards that are worth the risks.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:17 PM
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11. Negative campaigning USUALLY works.
But when McWhine does ONLY negative campaigning, and when his negative campaigning is little more than flailing and reacting to the positive thungs Obama is doing, he is, in fact walking into a trap. And now Obama is running a very effective counterpunch ad showing that McWhine = Bush and offers only the same tired bullshit.

I don't think this kind of stupid negative campaigning by McWhine will work at all.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:23 PM
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14. yeah, those Swiftboat ads, the flipflop ads, the windsurf ads, the Francophile ads
sure were ineffective against Kerry, weren't they?

Bush ran a very positive campaign in 04, didn't he?

you have to realize that the media, even when 'criticizing McCain' for his approach, is STILL playing the ad EVERY time they 'decry' it. why do they have to show it every time they discuss it, especially when they DON'T show Obama's answering ads?
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:08 PM
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6. The add needs to have Bush's Face morphing into Mcain's face and show the price of gas
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 06:08 PM by Geek_Girl
"Same old Politics." and run the add over and over.

Obama needs to go negative and paint MCCain as George Bush. He needs to start hitting harder IMHO.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:11 PM
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7. Bullshit! That ad SUCKS. It will not get any time on the news shows whatsoever.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 06:12 PM by cryingshame
at this point I think DU'ers are mentally challenged.

Just releasing an ad like this means nothing.

You want to release an ad that gets air play FOR FREE by the Mediawhores.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:13 PM
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8. But we have the money to run it 100,000 a day DURING THE OLYMPICS
The McCain campign is as inept as the old gramps is.

Obama will win in a huge landslide.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:15 PM
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10. Big deal, an ad that accuses McCain of being negative. DU'ers who think it's all that
haven't been paying attention for the last 10 years.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:17 PM
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12. Clinton tried to go negative on Obama and lost.
McCain isn't even as good at as she was and he will lose even worse.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:42 PM
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15. Jeez, chillout. What did you expect? An ad with McCain in diapers drewling on himself?
It's a decent ad, and they'll hit harder as things move along. It's still early, young Skywalker.

Patience.
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