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PSR40004 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:34 PM
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So who do you think won the debate?
Dean seemed to take alot of flak over records and his misspeaks but I don't think he will lose much support.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:36 PM
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1. Dean and Edwards did well
so did Carol...Lieberman, and to a lesser extent Kerry blew it.
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heidler Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:52 PM
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7. Attempt to get Dean fails.
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 06:39 PM by heidler
Lieberman's rubber lips melted. Dean caught Kucinich inconsistency about getting out of Iraq now. The fact is DK wants to turn it over to the UN. I haven't seen any indication that the UN would take it over. Neither DK or Dean want to just pack up and leave. Kerry bitched about Dean with incoherent babble. Carol was good.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:38 PM
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2. Kucinich
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:40 PM
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3. Why can't we get a poll up?
Technical difficulties...
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PSR40004 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:02 PM
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8. No I'm just stupid :)
Don't know how, I'm more interested in peoples take anyway :)
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DemOutWest Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:42 PM
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4. CMB and Edwards
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 05:43 PM by DemOutWest
will get the biggest push. Dean won't lose support,he also will not gain any.

I think Kerry did as well as Dean or Gephardt. He made some points that resonated well with the crowd. His, and Gephardt's mistakes were asking a question of Dean that was not policy oriented.

My .02 of $1
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:43 PM
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5. No clear winner
At times, I felt cheered by most of the candidates. I didn't like Lieberman's attacks, especially regarding Dean's records. (Dean's solution to the problem seems best; why can't Lieberman see that?)

So, I can't say who won, but Lieberman lost.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:44 PM
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6. Dean, Then Edwards, and Kucinich.
Everybody did well, it was a good debate. Gep didn't come across as tough as he usually does. Carol was good, but ignored, Kerry was very good, and clear with his answers. Holy Joe was pretty good too. It was a very good debate.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:05 PM
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9. these debates have become useless
What is the point? What use are they for Democrats?

The only possible use is for all of the candidates to differentiate themselves from George W. Bush.

Attacking each other by parsing words is counter productive. I think they're doing Dems more harm than good.
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:54 PM
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10. Dean won the debate because he speaks his mind and doesn't
apologize which is a step in the right direction.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:08 AM
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11. Agree
Winner GWB!
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Gretchen Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:03 PM
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21. Kucinich did great as always, but Dean & Edwards showed improvement
I thought Dean and Edwards performed better than usual. Kudos to them.

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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:26 AM
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12. Winner: Wesley Clark
Wesley Clark was able to spend his time productively. All others were fighting for stage time while Clark had the rest of the media to himself.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:19 PM
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23. I actually think Clark was slightly hurt by not being there....
In the sense that Dean clearly won.

That said, the miserable performances of Kerry and Lieberman may force them out--thus opeing some room for clark to catch some of their erstwhile supporters.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:48 AM
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13. Dean IMO
he came in ahead and went out ahead, so he's the winner. I didn't hear anything that will change the numbers.
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Serenity-NOW Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:57 AM
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14. The one who said > will you support the nominee...
and brought the point home. ABBA

So when we have a nominee and we all vote dem, what will the Resident's numbers look like? Don't forget that Poppy was the clear, landslide winner as well. Now get out there, register voters and tell them why they need to vote. Millions of unemployed might like to weigh in. It's almost too easy.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:18 PM
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15. Dean won. partly because his opponents used the same oldy modly
attack lines that are not sticking. They must have found absolutely nothing on him...
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:22 PM
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16. the debate sucked
alot. CMB was my pick for the winner though.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:34 PM
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18. it was the best debate so far
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:30 PM
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17. Well, the media
says it was USC, but the computers say LSU, so who knows?
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:41 PM
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19. LOL! If only the Primary had a playoff instead of this BCS crap! (nt)
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 03:16 PM
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20. Dean and Edwards came out ahead.
Dean kept his cool in the face of the now-predicatble (and poorly recieved by the audience) attacks.

Edwards was impressive as he usually is, and did himself good by staying above the fray.

CMB did well and provided a calming and rational voice.

Gephardt could have been better, but did not stumble.

Dennis K. was charming, but probably didn't do himself any good.

Kerry and Lieberman were terrible, with Kerry mamanging to be the worst. His humorless and boring attacks on Dean are getting him nowhere.

Liberman was in the wrong party, as always.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:05 PM
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22. The consensus is Dean and Edwards.
Edwards was polished and presented himself as an outsider, while Dean, while savagely attacked from all sides, looked firm, and more importantly, presidential.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:22 PM
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24. Clearly Kucinich and than Edwards won the debate
Dean did really badly. He should consider quitting so he won't have to debate Bush.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:25 PM
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25. Clark was the clear winner
Sometimes the only way to win is to not play. He got a lot of seperate media attention by not being there.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:27 PM
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26. Edwards won
In my opinion.
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:29 PM
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27. with all these debates
why not have single issue debates where there is actually a debate instead of canned slogans. These are stupid and useless, all the information can be found easier and clearer on the candidates web sites.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:32 PM
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28. He won't lose much support because his followers don't care
what his issues are or aren't. They care mostly about his CAMPAIGN.
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