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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:17 PM
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President Carter put solar panels on the White House.
Raygun took them off in 1981 ??? Is this true?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:18 PM
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1. Yes, it is.
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 10:20 PM by NYC_SKP
Reagan took them off, Clinton didn't think about energy at all, and Bush, well...



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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:22 PM
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5. Bush put them back on
In 2002.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:29 PM
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8. Linked
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:52 PM
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11. So, what has solar technology accomplished since then?
Aside from a few solar panel 'farms' and some hippies in the boonies, not much has happened in the industry since the Ray-gun admin.












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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:58 PM
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12. Actually, plenty has been happening since then.
The cost of solar-electric photovoltaic panels continues to drop while efficiencies rise.

The California Solar Initiative is creating thousands of solar homes, with the goal of getting 5% of our electricity from solar.

And the higher fossil fuel costs rise, the more attractive becomes solar energy.

Plenty is happening, at least in Germany, Japan, and California, the three largest users of solar energy.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:19 PM
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2. That's the story IIRC, Reagan called it "The new American Morning"
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 10:19 PM by cliffordu
No fuel problems, no environmnetal problems. Just schweet deregulation and arms for hostages!!

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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:21 PM
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3. I think it was called "morning in America." I'm not a morning person.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:39 PM
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9. Me neither. Thanks for the correction....
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:21 PM
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4. here's a link confirming it:
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:26 PM
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6. Actually the GOP is owned by Big Oil, true...but they're also
owned by Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, Big Firearm, Big Coal, Big Insurance, and Big Credit Card. They have, like, a time-share kind of arrangement.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:28 PM
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7. you are correct
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 10:28 PM by fascisthunter
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:46 PM
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10. And Jesus. Mustn't forget that industry. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 11:04 PM
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13. Imagine where we could have been today if all of Carter's idea had been put into practice.
In the late 1970's, President Jimmy Carter implemented CAFE standards to combat an oil shortage driven by policies of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. The standards raised fuel efficiency in American cars by 7.6 miles a gallon over six years, causing oil imports from the Persian Gulf to fall by 87 percent. Our economy grew by 27 percent during that period. Detroit, predictably, figured out how to build more fuel-efficient cars largely without reductions in size, comfort or power.

The CAFE standards worked so well that they produced an oil glut by 1986. That's when the Reagan administration intervened to rescue America's domestic oil industry from gasoline price collapse. Ronald Reagan's rollback of CAFE standards caused America, in that year, to double oil imports from the Persian Gulf nations and to burn more oil than is in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

According to a recent report by Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute, if the United States had continued to conserve oil at the rate it did in the period from 1976 to 1985, it would no longer have needed Persian Gulf oil after 1985. Had we continued this wise course, we might not have had to fight the Persian Gulf war, and we would have insulated ourselves from price shocks in the international oil market. Fuel efficiency is a sound national energy policy, economic policy and foreign policy all wrapped into one. Every increase of one mile per gallon in auto fuel efficiency yields more oil than is in two Arctic National Wildlife Refuges. An improvement right now of 2.7 miles per gallon would eliminate our need for all Persian Gulf oil!

Yet the Republican Congress in 1995 made it illegal for the Environmental Protection Agency even to study higher CAFE standards. The result is that America now has the worst energy efficiency in 20 years.

http://www.frugalmarketing.com/dtb/kennedy.shtml

This is the drudge retort..not report.
Twenty-nine years ago, President Jimmy Carter told Americans that the energy crisis was "a clear and present danger to our nation" and drew out a plan to address it. What happened?

http://www.drudge.com/news/110068/carters-energy-warning-went-unheard
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 11:57 PM
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14. I'm not sure
but I think those were solar thermal panels, not pv.
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