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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:36 AM
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My house was vandalized today because of my Obama window sign.
Fucking cowards. I've had an Obama sign in my front window since he took the nomination without incident until today. Normally, because of the hours I work, there is always someone awake in my house. But today I decided to take a well deserved day off and took my family to an amusement park for some fun. When I got back I found that someone(thing) decided to chew up a tootsie roll or some other chocolate and spit it all over my window where the sign sits. It was simple enough to clean off but I find the timing of this incident to be curious at the least. My initial reaction is to let it be known that I am planning another day out and simply lay in wait for this bastard to do it again so I can beat the fucking balls off of him. What right has anyone to deface my home because they don't agree with my choice of candidate? None. I take that shit as a personal affront to myself and a threat to my family.

I probably should have taken pictures and documented the incident but I was too pissed off to think clearly at the time. I was just thinking "Fuck You, I will not be intimidated. You better hope I don't catch you." as I wiped the window down.

So, I'm soliciting advice as to how any of you guys would handle this. My plan is not very subtle but it's the usual way we handle problems in South Philly. I'm looking for clever alternatives that do not include felonious assault. Any serious suggestions would be appreciated.



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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:40 AM
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1. Sad!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:44 AM
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2. Don't beat up the vandalizer if it's a kid under 18 or a woman
That would make for some difficult explaining to the police.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:21 AM
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55. Yes, I have considered that.
My wife can kick some ass if necessary and I have an underage nephew.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:45 AM
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3. Webcam
Put up some more signs to bait them, get photos, and press charges.

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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:52 AM
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4. Get a Freeper Hating, Mean as Hell, watch dog !!



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Then again...

All dogs --- even puppies --- HATE Freepers.

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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 06:43 AM
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11. Awwww, that is such an adorable picture! n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:56 AM
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33. Oh, how adorable! I finally got Mr. B@L to agree to let Master B@L and me
get a dog, but as luck would have it, Mr. has a possible very good job offer in--Germany.

Details to be worked out before October, but the wait is awful! We're doing the sensible thing, but damn, when I see pics like that bottom one, or the people walking their dogs down my street...

I keep thinking good thoughts; I'm sure they have dogs in Germany, too (in fact, I know they do, we've been there)! :rofl:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:18 AM
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5. Collect as much video/photos as possible...
...invite every Obama supporter you know (IRL and on DU)

Put them all together and release the compilation October 1.


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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:26 AM
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6. Take the fam in your car somewhere. Have a friend drive you back
to your neighborhood,but come back to your house so you won't be seen. Watch and wait, and have a camera.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:31 AM
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7. The chewed-up Tootsie roll makes me think it's a kid.
Or else W. escaped from his handlers and he's stirring up trouble in Philly. :P
Oh, wait... He's busy stirring up trouble in China! :think: Must be a kid, then.
I wouldn't be too hard on 'em if you catch the kid. Probably just parroting whatever their parents say.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:57 AM
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:39 AM
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9. That's considered "vandalism" in South Philly?

I mean, that is a very mild prank, like a Halloween prank, something a kid would do. Be glad it wasn't eggs or rotten tomatoes, dog shit, etc. I certainly wouldn't beat someone up over it, think you'd have trouble explaining that to the police.

I tend to doubt it will happen again, especially if you always have lights and either radio or tv on when you're away. Use timers that turn some of the lights on and off at random intervals. You ought to do that to dissuade burglars, forget about spitters.

IF it happened again, then it would be worth trying to catch the person and photograph him.

If you choose to have bumper stickers or signs at your house, some idiot may do something to your car or house. It's unfortunate but there are antisocial types around and it can happen no matter what the sticker or sign says. I think some people just use them as an excuse. "Oh, bumper sticker, why not key car?" Craziness. :shrug:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:02 AM
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10. Put up a no trespassing sign first. When you catch them, call the cops and press charges.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 06:47 AM
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12. You don't need a sign; it's trespassing, period.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 06:52 AM
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13. probably a skinhead or someone of that ilk.
You can replace your window sign w/a copy of the COnstituion but the knuckle-dragger probably doesn't know how to read.

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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:11 AM
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14. Personally I would do the following if he strikes again:

Put an American flag next to your poster
Set up a web cam to show both the spitter and the flag
Put the video of the creep spitting on the American flag on YouTube


Or you could do what a friend of mine did. He had someone peeing in his flower beds, and on the side of his house at night. He set up a pressure sensitive pad under the grass (just folded back the sod, and put it under the grass). It was wired to trigger a loud recording of an angry dog barking. It worked.

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:40 PM
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49. I like your idea n/t
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:25 AM
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15. Can't do anything
unless you're willing to sit in the dark with a video camera 24 hours a day. That's not very exciting. I would just pass around the story to your neighbors and ask them to keep an eye out. That's the best I can do.

Police won't care about a tootsie roll. And you can't legally beat the crap out of someone for spitting on your house.

Sorry you have to endure this.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:45 AM
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16. It was a violation of your civil rights and freedom of speech, and a terrorist threat
Make a police report, lay in wait the next time, take pictures, have the person arrested and then get them (it).

Make it look like the person doing this is a terrorist.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:01 AM
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17. Personally, I would let it go.
Life is too short to waste your time on idiots.
There are so many of them out there, and you can't stop them all.
If you waste your energy hating some unknown jerk, the only one you harm with your hate is yourself.
And all that forgiveness blather.
Seriously, laugh it off, have a beer, clean the window and forget about it.
Just keep in mind that you are on the correct side of history, and the poor deluded soul who did that needs some serious help.
Don't waste another moment of your precious time worrying about this...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:42 AM
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56. You're probably right.
If it happens again though....
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:08 AM
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18. It was probably some kid eating a candy bar that loves Obama and wanted to touch your sign. n/t
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:13 AM
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19. Have fun!
Please capture, on video, his face (I am assuming a "he" here, if only because of the incredibly high probability that the doer was male) the moment he hears you say:

"What the fuck are you doing to my house???!!!"
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:24 AM
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20. Poison dart traps (n/t)
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:02 AM
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21. I would take a paper towel and some Windex and clean off
my "vandalized" window and let it go.
Chewed up Tootsie Roll??
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:51 AM
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57. I did that.
Though I used Glass Plus. Yes, a large amount of chewed up chocolate. It wasn't just a single spit. Someone stood there and filled their mouth with saliva and chewed up chocolate and spit on my window more than once. It wasn't a just walk-by spit.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:27 AM
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66. I think there may have been a second spitter
....a second spitter behind the bushes on the gravelly road.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:15 AM
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22. Ask your neighbors if they saw anyone...
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 09:15 AM by zulchzulu
It's pretty sad, but I've heard where people have had their yard signs set on fire here in "liberal" Madison, WI. I've heard about people getting their car keyed because they had an Obama bumper sticker. I caught a guy trying to pry one off my car.

The assholes are starting to come out...

Consider the tootsie roll and spit "message" as that from what is probably some punkass teen that walked by and his old man is a drunk for McCain who taught his to be a racist little shit.

Just keep the sign there and perhaps mention the incident to your neighbors who are friends. I'm not sure where you live in South Philly (I lived on Rodman near Broad a while back...) but you probably have a lot of foot traffic where you are.

Consider it the "work" of a punk.


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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:04 AM
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23. I'd set up a trap.
Nothing dangerous mind you, but something to teach them a lesson. I'd fill a container full of water with pink food coloring in it. I'd mount that somewhere above the window and put a board attached to some monofilament fishing line under some mulch under the window. When they step on the board, they trigger the bucket. I'd also hide nearby with a video camera so that I could put the whole thing on you tube.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:09 AM
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24. Put a tootsie roll in a small-mouth jar and when he puts his hand in, he's stuck. n/t
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:13 AM
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25. NANNYCAM.
At least then you can enjoy your day out, regardless. If something untoward should happen at home, you stand a good chance of having proof when you get back.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:42 AM
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26. Put some permanent dye (yellow) in a hose spray jar and wait.
Douse the vandal IN THE ACT. The permanent dye causes no physical harm merely marking the individual (and their clothing) for a long time.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:54 AM
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27. Put up MANY MORE Obama signs. Screw them !!!
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:41 PM
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39. I vote for this! Make it positive! -nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:55 AM
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28. Machete.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:49 AM
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29. This is a joke, right?
A fucking chewed up tootsie roll? You consider this "vandalism"?? You want to "beat the fucking balls off of him"?

My serious suggestion is that you seek help. Quick.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:56 AM
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58. Did you ever chew on chocolate for awhile?
Without swallowing? You build up a thick mix of saliva and chocolate and, if you are a dick, can spew it onto something with large splatter effect. Do it more than once and you have a disgusting mess on your hands.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:15 AM
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65. Well, gosh... you should seek out a support group for victims of such a heinous crime
The strength you exhibit in getting through the day after such an attack is epic.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:50 AM
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30. Get some sort of surveillance system and also
call the police and file a report if/when it happens again. Also a sticker or sign that says trespassers will be prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows. That might make them think twice. But don't get into a physical confrontation.

Some assholes tried to run me off the road yesterday. They were in dirty pick up trucks and I guess they hated my Obama bumper magnet.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:52 AM
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32. LOL. On edit: I just re-read your OP-completely this time
:rofl: Spit on the window? Maybe just let it go?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:35 PM
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38. Electric window?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:58 AM
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59. A simple spit would be one thing.
Someone standing there and spewing a mixture of chocolate and saliva more than once is another.
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:52 AM
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31. Someone is for McCain is South Philly?
that's a shock to me
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:59 AM
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60. More than you would think.
The racism here is off the charts.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:07 PM
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34. How did you determine it was chocolate? n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:12 PM
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46. Eeewww... nt
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:00 AM
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61. Well I thought it might have been chewing tobacco at first.
But spit from chew always has particles in it and this spit did not.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:07 PM
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35. Put up more signs, if this dumb jackass is using spit he will dehydrate himself and pass out on your
lawn
:rofl:
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:43 PM
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50. Lol! n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:01 AM
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62. Hah! I I don't have a lawn though.
I live in an inner city rowhome.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:15 PM
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36. Always Trust Acme Products.
First get some of this ..... paint yourself with it and wait.



When the vandal arrives (or vandella) squrit them in the face with this ......



.......... maybe add some of this just for fun



While they are distracted ...... set off one of these ....



Example of expected results -------->

Final step ...... unleash one of these ....



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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:34 PM
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37. !!
:spray:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:54 PM
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42. I LOVE Acme products. I've got me one of these bad boys
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:02 PM
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43. ACME has something for every household.
I swear by their products.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:06 PM
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44. Here are some rave reviews:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:09 PM
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45. That's my anvil and giant rubber band vendor of choice.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:14 PM
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47. I look forward to their catolog every holiday season.
When I was a kid I used to just stare and pictures and dream of the day I could drop a piano on someone's head.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:44 AM
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64. Very funny.
Seriously, that's great. Where is Acme mail order when you need it?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:42 PM
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40. Reminds me of 2004, when I was wearing an Kerry shirt canvassing and someone yelled "BABY KILLER"
Made me so mad, I hate when people don't respect your beliefs or political views.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:44 PM
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41. I worry about it with my car. living in a very conservative district.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:45 PM
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51. I actually think my Obama sticker keeps me safe in my neighborhood n/t
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:48 PM
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52. lucky you, that may be true [for me, too; hadn't tho't of it]. thanks. eom.
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 02:21 PM by poli speak
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:34 PM
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48. There were similar things that went on in 04. It's only cos we're winning.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:08 PM
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53. My Car Was Spat On Once @ Red Rocks
because of my Iraq No sticker - it was gross, a whole bunch of spit was on my windshield.

It was on a Mothers Day when I met a former DU'er in from NY for brunch.

Then I had dog shit dumped on my car because I turned in some people who were violating school rules and bringing their dogs (about 20 of them) to the school early Sunday mornings. They chatted and drank Starbucks while their dogs ran around and pooped on the beautiful field where children play. It's against the law. I live in the neighborhood and they spotted my car.

Hard to catch chicken-shit people when they know you're not home or sleeping.
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:20 PM
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54. Put up more signs, get a cheap Game/Deer motion camera
Nail them with evidence. I suggest not ripping their nuts off. Save that for rapists and
violent trash.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:42 AM
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63. I was considering a camera.
I'd just like to know who it is.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:30 AM
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67. Camera
Ugh that's disgusting to hear. :(
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:40 AM
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68. Put up a bigger sign!
I had a house party for Obama and was told one of my neighbors had a "problem" with me having a Obama party.
I decided to have another one and decorate the whole front of the house this time.
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