Is it just me, or are all of the speakers tonight HORRIBLE?

[MercutioATC]

Granted, we've all been spoiled by Obama (and others), but the Convention tonight is like public access talent hour.

...and it goes on for hours and hours...

[grannie4peace]

1. it's you

[MercutioATC]

6. O.K....fair answer.

I maintain my assertion.

I'm cringing.

[endthewar]

33. So far they haven't been too compelling

But of course the speakers get better as the night goes on. I'm guessing that some of them have poor eyesight (Rendell's speech comes to mind) so they aren't very good at reading the teleprompters.

[Yes We Did]

53. KUCINICH WAS AWESOME!!!

Wake up!

[endthewar]

55. I missed Kucinich

But will be sure to check his speech out when the video is posted. :patriot:

[TexasLady]

59. I caught a portion...

of his speech, and he was FIRED UP and READY TO GO!!

hope there's a youtube posting of it.

[PolNewf]

61. He really was.

He is a bit too far left for me but the guy certainly has passion.

[Cha]

34. I think it's totally him..because I think they're

all Inspiring and Awesome and Funny!

[AirmensMom]

2. It's you.

Janet Napolitano is on now and she's really good.

[MercutioATC]

12. Funny...she's the one who prompted this post :)

Not specifically her...she was just the last straw.

[AirmensMom]

Hmmm ...

Well, I thought she did just fine.

[Honeycombe8]

68. It's not you. It IS boring. Yawn. Whoever organized this better get another job. nt

[maseman]

It's just you

Apparently you don't like good discourse.

[MercutioATC]

50. The Obama clips are fantastic.

...I'm just not impressed by most of the live speakers.

[Liberal Veteran]

3. It's to make Clinton look extra good.

[Zynx]

4. There are probably only about 30 good speakers in the whole country.

The Democratic Party has most of them.

[justiceischeap]

5. Yep, it's you... n/t

[carpetbagger]

7. Rendell would have been good if the dels were paying attention.

They weren't. Therefore, it does look a bit like C-SPAN on a Jim Trafficant night.

Beam me up, Scotty.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

8. I'll join you in the flamebroiler and agree that it's rather snoozy so far.

[MercutioATC]

27. Thanks. A lot of it just seems like amateur hour to me...

...especially the "amateurs" (non-politicians) reading so painfully off of cue cards.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

66. I'm kind of sad right now. I feel an opportunity slipping away.

Between the non-listening crowd and the lackluster speakers, none of the points being made are really getting across effectively. Maybe Hill will pull it out.

[MercutioATC]

74. I won't go that far...the audience doesn't need to listen. They're already onboard.

Yes, an enthusiastic response from them is fantastic...especially because this is our one big "commercial", but I'm not worried that this is a make-or-break thing...I just think we could have done a lot of tonight's presentation better.

[JerseygirlCT]

84. Add me in, I'm afraid.

Casey tried. But he's just not an exciting guy, I guess.

[livetohike]

9. Kucinich was great!

:-)

[goodgd_yall]

14. I thought David Patterson of NY was good.

But that was earlier in the day.

(Oops, meant to link this to the OP :blush: )

[livetohike]

19. You're right - he was very good too

:hi:

[cyndensco]

38. He was good but didn't you hear a gaffe?

Towards the end of his speech, after saying mccain is not a friend of the disabled, he said something like "If Barack Obama gets to the white house, we will have 4 more years of the same, staid policies" He followed with "When Barack Obama gets in the white house, things will improve..."

My son and I caught it along with a slight gasp from the audience. You did not hear it?

[Alexander]

18. Kucinich was awesome. "Wake up, America!"

[cyndensco]

40. Kucinich was on fire!

[Alexander]

If I think Steny Hoyer was decent, the problem must be with you.

[AnnieBW]

75. Steny was decent

As compared to some of them. The really good speakers are coming in prime-time Mountain time.

Then again, he's my Rep, so I'm just being a homer.

[marlakay]

10. dennis kucinch nt

[Marrah_G]

11. You have Patrick and Clinton coming up- Both are excellent speakers.

[goodgd_yall]

13. You missed Kucinich earlier, I take it?

We rocked the joint!

[Lewiskw]

15. Yes it is just you

Did you even hear David Paterson's great speech, I also have to mention Dennis K.'s and Ed Rendell's also the women of the senate were very good.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

16. Guess you missed Dennis Kucinich?

He was absolutely ass kickingly terrific.

The schedule is pretty DLC-heavy today, unfortunately, which accounts for most of the boredom.

[MercutioATC]

22. Yes, I did miss Kucinich...and Schweitzer...the big two I wanted to see.

[Alexander]

29. Then you answered your own question. It's you.

[MercutioATC]

36. O.k.....just Kucinich?

Was there anybody else that didn't sound like they were extras from the Home Shopping Network?

[Alexander]

48. You missed Paterson and Kucinich. That's not the DNC's fault, it's yours.

:nopity:

[MercutioATC]

51. Paterson and Kucinich are my fault....the rest of it, so far, seems to be theirs.

Sebelius isn't terrible, though.

[Alexander]

52. You also have yet to see Clinton and Schweitzer.

So this entire thread could've been avoided had you considered the possibility that it's you.

[MercutioATC]

57. If the night is limited to Schweitzer, Clinton, and a couple of others...

...I think my "point" (It was an opinion, not actually a "point") seems justified.

[Alexander]

67. You've already conceded that one speaker was decent, you missed two...

And two or three of the most notable speakers (Schweitzer, Clinton, Warner) haven't spoken yet.

So it seems like you could've just as easily concluded "It's me" and not posted this thread.

But, whatever.

"...I think my "point" (It was an opinion, not actually a "point") seems justified."

If it's not a point, why did you call it one? I certainly didn't.

In case you're new to this, the point of conventions is to highlight the noteworthy speakers - the keynote (Warner), the VP nominee (Biden) and the presidential nominee (Obama).

Nobody wants the 30 other speakers to upstage the main events. It never looks good. So if the others seem boring to you, that's a good thing. It means the people running this convention are smart.

That being said, I think Kucinich was good, Napolitano was good, Hoyer and Sebelius were decent, and Federico Pena is doing great right now.

So maybe you just need to watch it some more. :shrug:

[MercutioATC]

70. I'll defer to the "experts"...

...I just see this as our one really big commercial...and I see a lot of it that could make a better impression.

[lojasmo]

78. And Schweitzer. Are you paying attention at all?

Or are you just wasting time bitch-trolling on the internet?

Now to be fair, I haven't watched any of it (just watched Obama and Kennedy on the tivo) but I'm not spending any time posting threads about how boring it is, when I haven't bothered FUCKING WATCHING IT.

[MercutioATC]

87. When I posted this Schweitzer hadn't spoken, bitch.

(I figure if you get to call me a bitch, I get to call you one)

...


..Schweitzer's kicking ass. He isn't 100% on his game, but he's got the audience involved. He gets that "Uncle Fester" look when he raises his shoulders (which I never noticed before) and his delivery is slightly forced at times, but he's definitely got the audience's attention...and he's speaking dynamically (and his speech is savvy enough to tie to McCain's "houses").

This guy friggin' rocks.

This is the kind of thing we need going on at the Convention.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

32. Was Schweitzer on already?

Guess I missed him too. I heard him once before on the Thom Hartmann show. Seemed like an interesting guy. Would have liked to have heard that one. Don't know how I missed him. One of the DLC'ers must have put me to sleep or something?

[MercutioATC]

37. I guess they're just running REALLY far behind???

Seems he's still probably coming up.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

44. Maybe we'll get lucky and he can "bump" Warner off the schedule?

They ain't bumping Hillary, we all know that. :evilgrin:

[Wetzelbill]

60. he's on right before Hillary in primetime

[Wetzelbill]

62. He's supposed to come on right before Hillary

[FrenchieCat]

45. I didn't see Schweittzer...but I don't think he's been on yet!

[liberalmuse]

17. All but Kucinich and the girl from Iowa so far.

The rest are essentially repeating the same thing, and yes, it is boring.

[countingbluecars]

20. Kucinich

is getting great reviews.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/rockymountainnews/20080826/pl_rockymountainnews/kucinichelectrifiesconventionarena

[DevonRex]

21. Can't wait to see Hillary. I haven't watched much today but I will

watch her.

[Doctor_J]

23. I saw Leahy and the Planned Parenthood woman before. It was

pretty sleep-inducing. Maybe prime time will be better.

[blue_onyx]

24. I think people have done pretty well....

except the one lady would never looked up. She seemed really nervous and I felt bad for her.

[undeterred]

25. They make the PBS guys look interesting.

I want my governor. No, really, its not that bad.

[dailykoff]

26. some good ones this afternoon..

Ted Sorenson gave a scorcher, and David Paterson, the blind gov of NY, gave a very funny one.. watched on cspan.org

[Christa]

28. Anna Brink

I am sorry to say but I could not listen to her high pitched voice, plus she talked so fast :shrug: I heard just noise.

[Peregrine Took]

30. Kucinich was great and if corporate money didn't run this campaign (and

everything else involving DC) he would be our candidate.

[RepublicanElephant]

35. exactly!

america just hasn't advanced enough to vote-in a kucinich administration.

[dailykoff]

31. link to schedule

so you can pick and choose:

http://www.demconvention.com/tuesday-schedule/

[MercutioATC]

39. Thanks! It seems they're just running late.

Whew! I really want to see Schweitzer.

[scarletwoman]

41. It's just you. I'm loving it so far.

[MercutioATC]

42. O.K....assuming you're still watching....Gloria Craven.

Fuck.

What the hell is this?

"My name is Forrest Gump. People call me Forrest Gump."

Are these really the things we need to do to combat the "elitist" claim?

[Minimus]

49. Not nice! - Quit alienating people - I am from NC close to where she is from and it is

"Forrest Gumps" like her that are going to help elect Obama.

She introduced Obama when he was here last week and he invited her to speak.

[MercutioATC]

54. Honestly, though...she wasn't the strongest speaker.

Can't we find a North Carolinian who knows how to speak?

The Convention is, perhaps, the ultimate dog and pony show. It's our time to shine, more than any other. Shouldn't we be focusing on speakers who can actually speak?

[Minimus]

63. She spoke from the heart - that is good enough for most

Down-on-luck Eden woman on big podium

Speaking before an audience of thousands at the Democratic National Convention in Denver may qualify Gloria Jean Craven as a star to many, but she refuses to accept the treatment that goes along with it.

Craven was offered help with her speech, but she refused. The 56-year-old displaced Pillowtex worker prefers to speak directly from her heart, not a sheet of paper.

"I will say it like I said it in Raleigh or I won't say it at all," said Craven, speaking about the speech she gave during Barack Obama's visit to Raleigh last week.

Craven believes she must have impressed Obama's camp during that appearance. They called on her again Saturday, asking if she wanted to take her message national.


http://www.news-record.com/content/2008/08/26/article/down_on_luck_eden_woman_on_big_podium

[charlyvi]

85. I enjoyed her.

A Southern country gal getting up and speaking her mind. No polish, no zingers, no gimmick, just speaking her mind. She's a Democrat.

[eshfemme]

43. I kinda liked the Republican Alaska mayor. He was sincere although awkward.

[Liberal Dose]

46. It's not the words. The words are fantastic. It's the delivery. I can't expect everyone to get my

blood flowing like Dennis Kucinich "WAKE UP AMERICA!!" but monotone can distract from the message. :)

[Doctor_J]

47. Yeah, Nancy Floyd is uninspiring too

We need more passion, less wonkery.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

56. As a native Kansan (stuck in Texas), I admire and respect Kathleen Sebelius

But I wish she had delivered her remarks with a little more "oomph." But then, I'm no Demosthenes, either.

[PolNewf]

58. It must be hard for the speakers

when the dels are doing their own thing and not paying attention. No speaker would do well with this kind of audience feedback. I find it pretty rude.

[sniffa]

64. I assume you got your answer by now

It's just you.

[Bonobo]

65. How many conventions have you watched? This is how it is.

It ain't "Harold and Kumar go to White Castle" you know.

Sorry you have such a short attention span.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

69. Just because it's been that way doesn't mean it has to be that way.

I hear what you're saying, and agree, but I don't remember Kerry having a slow night like this. The crowd really seems subdued.

Maybe it's me and my expectations.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

71. I want to see that fire! ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

Plus, we have such an exciting candidate, it's like where's the enthusiasm?!

I'm telling ya', the Repukes aren't going to be playin' nicey nicey next week. I'm still pissed Romney and Giuliani are in Denver and crashed the party. They shouldn't have been allowed in. Ballsy mofos.

[Bonobo]

73. Without hate there is no love. Without boredom there is no excitement. nt

[ElsewheresDaughter]

81. NO this is not how they are...I was in Boston in 04 and it was VERY HIGH ENERGY

[Bonobo]

82. Maybe it seemed more so because you were there. nt

[Raine]

72. Dull as dishwater

they get a good speaker like Kucinich then you get a dull one but I think it's more the crowd. The speakers try to get things going but some delegates seem to be sitting on their hands. x(

[doc03]

76. I think this women Lilly Ledbetter is a clone

of Miss Hathaway from the Beverly Hillbillies.

[GoesTo11]

77. It's not you

I think they've made a strategic decision to not attack McCain. To show only positivity. Hope it works better than in 04.

[Doctor_J]

79. I'm liking Gov Warner

Populist, progressive (as in progress)

[Doctor_J]

83. Changing my mind. Too much VA, not enough Obama/Biden

:shrug:

Sounds like he's running for pres instead of trying to get Obama elected

[ElsewheresDaughter]

80. Kucinich ROCKED the house!!!

[theboss]

86. Most politicians are boring

You know who gives a great speech?

Jesse Jackson.

You know how many elections Jesse Jackson has won?

Zero.