Does anyone see a renaissance on the way for black music in the USA?

[flamingdem]

Hearing these songs being played in this context really brings them alive again... Right now listening to the Supremes.

[Beregond2]

1. God I hope so.

Hip-hop is so over.

[Bullet1987]

5. Hip-Hop isn't over...it's just become over-saturated with nonsense

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

15. Thank you.

Hip Hop is not going anywhere.

[Beregond2]

22. Uh-huh.

That's what they said about ragtime, big band, be-bop, rockabilly, disco, punk...

Hip-hop is five years past it's eat-by date.

[Uzybone]

25. Hip Hop is global

there are successful rappers on every continent and its only growing.

How can you compare hip hop to rockabilly? Geesh.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

27. THANK YOU!

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

26. Well don't listen to it.

End of message.

[dipsydoodle]

2. They never died

and neither did the original R & B from the '40s.

BTW - music is music : not black or white.

[1Hippiechick]

3. Good music NEVER dies - loving this older music - 60s was my generation - great music

[flamingdem]

6. I don't know... Motown was my introduction to black culture in my very white suburban town nt

[dipsydoodle]

16. The USA started to lose its own music

when the record companies in the '50s got whities to cover the black tracks because they just couldn't hack with the original lyrics.

To help understand what I mean about music being neither black nor white go back to Benny Goodman and Teddy Wilson and then work forwards.

[flamingdem]

20. When I was 12 I was not a musicologist, I just knew the emotions that those

songs made me feel... and they were different from the white versions of R&B, the Rolling Stones etc. Then I'd see the Supremes and Temptations on American Bandstand and now and then switch to Soul Train when no one was looking to see good dancing.

[Bicoastal]

4. I'd like to hear a renaissance for ALL music, actually...

...I'm not exactly nostalgic for the music for yesteryear, being 26, but I feel like the American musical scene HAS stagnated. Other than some superficial differences in production, the top 40 hits of 2008 really aren't so very different than the top 40 hits of 1998. Compare this to other decades, ('68 and '78, '78 and '88), and you realize we're in kind of a down period.

And although you can make the argument that "pop" will always be lousy, just look at the artists who were in the top ten 20, 30, 40 years ago--The Beatles, The Stones, Marvin Gaye, Bruce Springsteen, young Michael Jackson...it's depressing. I always though Hip Hop would revolutionize pop music, but man, that stuff is designed and manufactured by committee these days, and it sounds like it, too.

[AZBlue]

36. I'm so glad you posted that - I felt the same way, but being 16 years old than you,

I thought it was just my age talking, LOL! :D

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. A a fan of hip hop, jazz, blues, and soul, black music doesn't need a "renaissance"

It never went anywhere.

Hip hop is one of the most dazzling inventions of our age, just as jazz was before it.

[flamingdem]

11. HIp hop has been a great success and now it is global

but to me it is rich lyrically and rhythmically but it is not something I enjoy listening to often. Less so now that it is quite commercial and often sexist and violent, at least that is what I see on TV.

I'd like seeing the underground scene a bit more .. but other than that I'd like to see other genres getting support.

[alcibiades_mystery]

28. I like it all

Saying hip hop is sexist and violent is a bit like saying Hollywood is. No shit. But we still like those movies, as long as there's variety and other kinds of things going on as well. It's storytelling. Beowulf is violent.

[flamingdem]

35. It's generational. I would like some really excellent SONG writers to reappear..

Songs as in harmony, musicality, use of horns and strings, subtle sounds not just thump thump.

[alcibiades_mystery]

38. thump thump thump with hooks and break beats are SONGS

I like both. I just saw Jane Monheit and Michael Feinstein do a Gershwin review at Ravinia. It was excellent. I could just as easily put on a Nas album and kick back. It's ALL music. It's different, but excellent in different ways.

It's not generational for me. I'm just as comfortable listening to Leonard Cohen, Louie Prima, or Wu Tang. So should everybody be, in my perfect world.

[elkston]

23. ...and there's enough joy in Jazz to last for a lifetime. n/t

[TexasLady]

8. Boy I hope so

Ive had a funk/r & b renaissance playing in my bedroom and on my tapes/cd's for 30 years :D

[flamingdem]

13. I'm a fan of funk also and also Cuban salsa that is USA funk influenced

It's musically complex dance music...

[TexasLady]

19. then Im gonna youtube it tonight!

:hi:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. MOTOWN! I LOVE Stevie Wonder

signed sealed delivered

better than that rap stuff

[Bozita]

18. He performs at 8:40pm EDT tonight at Mile High Stadium

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. darn, I missed it!

[BlooInBloo]

29. A boy is born... in hard time Mississippi...

One of the best songs ever penned.

[flamingdem]

32. Now I want to hear that song! I love Stevie, of course nt

[JuniperLea]

41. I love Stevie!!!

What a genius!

[NashVegas]

10. The Soul Stuff?

It was always great music; more people realize it now when they go to a wedding and no one can express much joy by dancing to "Stairway to Heaven" or "Jeremy," or even "Survival."

[spanone]

12. i pray for the soul music of the sixties...sam & dave, aretha franklin, otis redding

some of the greatest american music ever made imho

[flamingdem]

14. Sitting on the Dock of the Bay still gets me

and I was about 12 when it came out and had it on a 45 rpm!

[Zavulon]

17. I'd love it, but I'd want it to knock hip-hop off the charts.

A comeback for MoTown music would be great (NOT disco), but I really want hip-hop to go the fuck away.

[flamingdem]

21. It made its mark, lifted many people up but it is musically lacking in terms of

harmonies, complexities ... I'm tired of the blah, blah, blah... and the gansta attitude... let's let that go away as well. For sure new and more relevant inventions are on the horizon.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

30. Don't listen to it.

Not all hip hop is bad. Just the bad bunch that you have listened to makes the entire genre look bad.

[JuniperLea]

33. It's all bad to my ears... art is subjective...

It will never be as good as soul and R&B, of which I'm the biggest fan I know.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

37. Ok we have discussion all the time in the Lounge...

If you don't get it you don't get it, I don't get country and western so I can't argue. Be well my friend :hi:

[JuniperLea]

40. I'm a metal head...

Led Zeppelin, Sabbath, Candlemass, Wino... I like punk too... Turbonegro, Roxy Music for a touch of glam... David Bowie... I love Johnny Cash and anything that is real bluegrass... soul and R&B... stoner rock too... The Hidden Hand... Masters of Reality... Supersuckers.

But I just can't take the hip hop.

Some of us like peas, some of us don't... black eyed or green:)

[flamingdem]

42. I had Black Sabbath the day it was released on vinyl! I still like it, good Brit metal nt

[flamingdem]

24. Now the party is really going - Earth, Wind & Fire!

Great music planning, like everything else they are on the ball.

[JuniperLea]

31. Renaissance? A rebirth? Oh, hell no! Not on your life! Are you crazy??!?!

It never died! I'm here to testify, it has NEVER gone away, not for a moment.

I am one of the biggest soul and R&B fans I know... ask my next office neighbor:)

[flamingdem]

34. ... do you like Hip Hop? What is your favorite artist? nt

[JuniperLea]

39. Never liked hip hop... art is subjective:)

As a singer and musician, I have a lot more respect for Aretha (pardon the pun), Gladys, Smokey, Marvin... The Stylistics, Al Green, The Spinners, The Four Tops, Stevie Wonder, Dionne Warwick, Herold Melvin... just a few off the top of my head.