Word's out that McCain is just now vetting Palin.

[charlyvi]

Andrew Halcro, one of the Republicans who ran against Palin in 2006, is reporting that the McCain campaign has begun vetting their candidate:


The campaign of John McCain has sent a staff of eight people into Alaska to conduct background checks and vetting on Governor Sarah Palin.

Word is they have have eight rooms reserved at a Wasilla hotel.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11192



Wow. Just wow.

[BlueIdaho]

1. Are you shitting me?

One more example of the mature judgement of John McCain...

[charlyvi]

17. I am most definitely not shitting you. Here's more:

Borderline

This is amazing:


"On Saturday, a Democrat tasked with opposition research contacted the Huffington Post with this piece of information: as of this weekend, the McCain campaign had not gone through old newspaper articles from the Valley Frontiersman, Palin's hometown newspaper.

How does he know? The paper's (massive) archives are not online. And when he went to research past content, he was told he was the first to inquire.

"No one else had requested access before," said the source. "It's unbelievable. We were the only people to do that, which means the McCain camp didn't." (...)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014492.php

[BlueIdaho]

27. This is priceless.

Alert the media - NOW!

So much for gramps vaunted judgement.

[mikiturner]

88. DIGG IT UP

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/John_McCain_Starts_Vetting_Sarah_Palin_After_He_Picks_Her

[Towlie]

186. They don't have eight rooms at the Wasilla Hotel!

[YDogg]

198. I LOLd.

[RagAss]

58. Dementia

[Cha]

66. It mighta worked out if palin

hadn't of turned out to be such a lying, abuser of power.

[hisownpetard]

87. Whaddya mean? Those are the attributes that made McCain pick her!

[hisownpetard]

89. Sorry - dupe

[charlyvi]

94. Heh. Part of the GOP training guide.

[Cha]

98. I like this one best:)

I'm pissed about her treatment of our endangered Polar Bears and I bet Al Gore does not find her amusing. :pals:

[roguevalley]

125. its going to be crowded in the newspaper morgue with repug, dem

and national enquirer folks all going at it and everyone in town -which HATES her- will be ready to spew. this is going to get awful very quickly.

[charlyvi]

128. They better pack a tent.

Somehow I don't think Wasilla can handle all the traffic.

[roguevalley]

133. geographically, Wasilla is huge. structurally, not so much. :)

[charlyvi]

135. I love your little doggie. n/t

[roguevalley]

138. my Tippy. He's my little soul mate. :)

[charlyvi]

139. Tippy is teh cute. n/t

[sunnybrook]

184. your soul mate

or your running mate? I've been getting the two confused lately

[charlyvi]

196. Hehe.

Maybe both. Tippy looks very fit and trim.

[kwolf68]

2. What?

Thats like flushing the toilet before you take a shit.

[vaberella]

13. LOL...oh my god.

:rofl: It's true and damn funny.

[WinkyDink]

44. Everything about that expression is so.............right!

[qwlauren35]

201. It happens...

And easily correctable... you flush again when you're done.


Is he done yet???

:eyes:

[madaboutharry]

3. Wow is right.

McCain is the one who is a joke.

[City Lights]

4. Let the cover-up begin!

:mad:

[liberal N proud]

5. What the hell is going on?

[BlooInBloo]

6. He should just read DU - we've already covered about all the bases.

[DUgosh]

Someone probably did read DU

thats why they sent 8 people. Four just wasn't enough.

[NotThisTime]

46. Exactly, that's why they JUST sent people up... Holy crap...

[Kber]

38. Seriously.

Just send him a link to our greatest page. They could be done in a couple of hours.

kber

[MadrasT]

145. *snort*

:rofl: :toast:

[liberalmuse]

7. Jesus H. Christ.

This man terrifies me.

[grantcart]

8. You missed the title "We will be ready in a few days" lol

I also wonder how all of the Republicans that she has so 'courageously' stabbed in the back will feel now that they will have a chance to be heard.


edited to add from the comments:

too late to vet - just clean up now

[opihimoimoi]

9. I can believe it...

:toast:

[trudyco]

10. Do they have a paper shredder? Vetting or covering up? -nt

[NotThisTime]

49. It's too late to cover up, the Dems were already there!!! They got what they needed

[Oak2004]

144. See? As I've said many times

Karl Rove is not a genius. My old party is not a bunch of geniuses. They are however, full of hubris, having won for many years on ruthlessness alone.

The GOP is entirely, utterly, defeatable, by any politically competent Democrat who understands what he or she is up against.

Enjoy :) They'll screw up a few more times before this is over, and as long as the Dems don't fall asleep at the wheel, this could be fun :)

[dethl]

11. They're in full damage control mode...

Why didn't McSame do his homework before making his pick? This is political suicide at its finest.

[dansolo]

22. Because he paniced after Obama's speech

He needed something--anything--to overshadow the glowing reviews of Obama's speech. n that front he succeeded. But now he is stuck with her.

[JaneQPublic]

As John Kerry says, McSame isn't a Maverick, he's erratic. (nt)

[Muttocracy]

53. and a prisoner of the religious right. nt

[JaneQPublic]

68. John McCain: Former POW, Current PORR (nt)

[krkaufman]

166. Or Prisoner of Wingnuts nt

[damndude]

86. that heaps even more praise onto obama.........

that speech is now a benchmark in american politics and more candid and confrontational than anyone expected not least of all than for the simple fact that he spoke to that stadium and the television audience like adults not mindless voters who can't comprehend the facts as they are using grown up words. he addressed john mccain't like an adult too. that's why he's scarred. he though obama would shoot back with some politically calculated response to his juvenile attacks. he never expected to be publicly dissected like a frog in science lab.
i will say that obama's speech was frightening. it was frightening in that obama presented himself to world as never before an fascinated everyone with the imagination of what he could accomplish. mccain't can't do that

[hisownpetard]

92. Perfect summary, in a nutshell.

:thumbsup:

[CrispyQ]

175. I agree completely.

It was a desperation move to get the Obama & the hugely successful dem convention off the front page. Well, McCain, you're front & center now!!

[kimmerspixelated]

204. I don't think he did the choosing.

There are some with theories that Cheney or Rove forced this on McCain.Why else, would it look so last minute? Why else have someone he only met once. Jeesh!.. Or maybe...NONE of the VP picks he really wanted would agree to it at all! It's beyond fishy!!

[billyoc]

12. "A" Wasilla hotel?

:rofl:

[kid a]

14. typo.."the" wasilla hotle

[MadrasT]

147. It has 8 actual rooms?

:rofl:

[eShirl]

65. ha!

:spray:
I am dying here

[gordianot]

77. Someone needs to call the Wasilla Hotels and ask to speak to the RNC.

I wonder if there are any rooms available in Wasilla?

[graywarrior]

15. And this is how he will run the country.

Shoot first, ask questions later. Yup...he's a maverick.

[givemebackmycountry]

16. I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!

I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!

EIGHT MINUTES, AFTER OBAMAS SPEECH ENDED TO THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE IN FRONT OF EIGHTY-FOUR-THOUSAND PEOPLE IN DENVER!
Someone said, we're in trouble.
Let's think out of the box.

The next morning, Sarah Palin jumped out of that box with her BIG hair and nice legs.

Republicans.
They never cease to amaze me.

[undeterred]

23. Exactly. He is very impulsive and quick tempered.

Everybody thought somebody else must have checked her out but nobody did. Now its going to be really awkward when they find out about all her warts. But they KNEW she was under investigation. And they KNEW she just had a child.

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. That leaves two rooms for travelers...............

[Bonobo]

19. They are setting up to flush her.

"In light of RECENT discoveries, yadda yadda, yadda..."

[tblue37]

34. Think of the damage the Eagleton backtrack did to McGovern in 1972.

Ditching her won't make them look good, either.

[Bonobo]

43. Yeah, it's a horrible choice, but...watchagonnado? nt

[adamuu]

62. i know. beautiful thing isn't it?

the gift that keeps giving.

[central scrutinizer]

110. "She has chosen to spend more time with her family..."

[Raine]

20. McINSANE is really on point isn't he...

NOT! What a dumb ass! :silly:

[solowannabee]

21. here is the proof that Bristol is still preggers and Trig is Sarah's baby

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=117egpk&s=4

can anyone verify that photo is real? It was apparently taken a day or two ago.

I found the photo at this url, along with some comments from one sue williams, a neighbor of palin's. Williams comments explain the situation.

I do not have enuf posts to start my own thread, so please start one for me with this info.


from the comments on this blog:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/off-to-the-land-of-palin/#comments


Sue Williams, commentor claiming to live near Palin and know here says baby is Sarah Palin's and that the oldest daughter is still pregnant and just got married.


Here are some of her comments:



Sue Williams (12:31:50) :

To the person who commented on Sarah’s hair - no, it’s what happens when one has hair extensions - which Sarah, at one time, don’t know about now, had.

Re: babygate - I don’t know what’s being reported. Here, however, is the truth. Trig is Sarah and Todd’s baby.

When Sarah first learned she was pregnant, it was shocking and overwhelming. While she and Todd had not planned to have anymore children, it is common knowledge among their family and friends that neither of them ever surgically insured that they wouldn’t have any “late in life” surprises/blessings.

This, to me, showed a disturbing lack of judgement. If you want to ask the citizens of a state to let you run the state for four years, to me she and Todd should have thought ahead and determined that the possibility of an unplanned pregnancy wouldn’t have been prudent for either the child, their family, their extended family (who are the ones who end up helping them raise their current four children) or the citizens of the state.

They either didn’t think this through, or didn’t care. Not sure. But, either way, to me and to others, it was a lack of foresight and judgement.

But it is the same vein - this lack of judgement - Sarah showed, on the campaign trail for governor, when asked who would raise her children should she win, she promptly stated that Todd would quit his job and stay at home with the kids (Todd works a “Slope” week on/week off schedule).

Sarah was elected and then - whoops. Todd didn’t like the stay at home gig - so Sarah, citing they needed money for the kid’s college (even though Track enlisted in the military) said Todd was returning to work. When asked about her statements on the campaign trail about how Todd would quit his job, Sarah said she’d actually never talked to him about what they would do if she was elected (in terms of his employment) and that she’d spoken out of turn when she spoke for him stating he’d quit his job.

Again, call me picky, but this is the kind of bizarre judgement Sarah routinely displays. Are you kidding me that she would run for governor and she and her husband would somehow not think to have a conversation about what to do with their four school aged kids? That’s insane. So, either her judgement is super goofy, or she wasn’t telling the truth. Either way, it’s not reassuring to now think this is someone who would be one 72 year old heartbeat away from having to call shots for the country/world.

So Todd trots himself back to work and Sarah is busy traipsing around the state and the nation. The kids are “farmed out” (this is the word used by thier associates in “the Valley”) to family and friends to raise while Todd and Sarah are off having their respective careers (Sarah is famously quoted as saying, “My mom does whatever I need her to”).

During this period is when Bristol, Sarah’s sixteen year old daughter, turns up pregnant. So, it’s kind of interesting to note that the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee and her sixteen year old junior in high school unwed daughter were carrying babies at the same time. Once Bristol’s condition became more obvious this summer, she was whisked out of sight and hasn’t been seen in public until yesterday in Ohio. This is why Trig’s blanket was strung across her entire abdomen and torso, but, when she walked down the stairs from the stage, in a profile shot, it was very clear to see she is well into her third trimester of her pregnancy.

It has come out in the past couple of days that she and her high school boyfriend had a quickie wedding and that she is home schooling her senior year.

The Anchorage Daily News has known about this for months - and haven’t touched the story. But I can’t imagine the national press or the Democratic Party will be as willing to turn a blind eye.

For me, once again it speaks to judgement. We all - every single one of us - even Sarah’s closest friends in the Valley (I know, I’ve been speaking to them) know she is in no way qualified for this position. At all.

But then, why would she accept the nomination, knowing that Bristol’s situation will come to light and knowing her hunger for national and international acclaim and attention will carry with it a mighty high price for her seventeen year old daughter who had absent parents last year and who turned up pregnant.

How embarrassing will it be for Bristol once the news (or the baby) comes out and not just the Valley, not just Alaska, not just the USA - but Bristol will be known the world over as the seventeen year old unwed - then quickly wed senior-in-high-school-homeschooled-teenage mom and daughter to the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee?

How hard will that degree of scrutiny and shame be?

How does one do that to one’s daughter?

How does one dash about the country for the next 66 days trying to pull off an image of the devoted mother of five when she, by and large, isn’t the one raising them and when one of them - her daughter, is in a truly vulnerable point in life; not to say anything about the needs of Trig. But maybe he doesn’t count, except as a talking point or a photo prop. But this is a person, a little boy who is going to require a tremendous amount of time and attention. From his mother.

This is okay?






Sue Williams (08:34:00) :

You all are a hoot. Kind of. You have no idea how surreal this whole pick is for Alaskans. NO ONE up here that I know - beside “bumper sticker citz” think Sarah is ready for - heck, the Senate, let alone VP or the White House. It’s truly crazy.

Here are the facts - and really, if you want to spend time trying to understand Sarah, my best advice to you is to go to Andrew Halcro.com and read the past six weeks worth of his blog entries and the comments section - or, the Anchorage Daily News (adn.com). The ADN is very Palin friendly (the staff is all hoping she’ll bring them on board her Administration - cynical? Yes. But, kind of true, too. She rewarded the editor with a nice post in DC once she was elected gov).

Re: the pregnancy stuff. I wouldn’t bother trying to track down anymore photos. Some I’ve seen have the wrong dates assoicated with them anyway. Sarah gave birth to Trig. Many of us in Alaska speculated she kept her mouth shut b/c she didn’t want people in DC to know when she went there in Feb (it allowed her to get to talk VP speculation). By the end of the preg (like late March, early April) she did look pregnant - her face got full and she only wore black changing out her scarves for color.

Trig is Sarah and Todd’s baby. She was very open (once she told everyone she was pregnant) that learning she was pregnant was a difficult thing, let alone learning he had Down’s. Sarah is amazingly ambitious. She doesn’t like to let anything stop her - clearly, she, and all of us, and anyone with a functioning mind, saw this pregnancy as taking her out of VP speculation. But, what do you know, John McCain I guess, doesn’t have a functioning mind.

Bristol Palin is pregnant. She is well into her third trimester. She has been out of sight in Alaska for the past couple months. I learned the morning we all heard Sarah was chosen that Bristol and her high school boyfriend had had a quickie wedding. So, at least Sarah’s grandchild won’t be born to an unwed teenage mother, just a teenage, senior in high school mother.

When Todd and Sarah first learned Bristol was pregnant, they were “devastated” - which parents wouldn’t be? Sarah said she knew the scrutiny of the press would be hard for Bristol to take.

And then Sarah decides it’s okay to run for VP? If she thought the press in down home Alaska - a press corp who has given her family a free pass and who, even tho they’ve known about Bristol’s pregnancy for months, hasn’t touched it with a ten foot pole - if Sarah thought Alaska’s press would be hard for Bristol to bear, just exactly what did she think the nation’s press pool would be like? Or the fact that by accepting McCain’s offer to join the ticket, Sarah knew full well Bristol will become the most well known pregnant high school senior ON THE PLANET.

Apparently that’s what blind ambition does for you, folks. It blinds you to the hearts and needs and lives and emotions and futures of everyone around you - incl. your own daughter who, God only knows how she’ll bear up under the shock and shame when this story finally comes out.

No thank you. I would like a VP candidate who puts the lives of the people she’s supposed to be caring for first, above her own. Since, for social reasons (abortion and gay issues) I can’t in my conscience vote for Obama, I’ll show up in the booth this Nov and vote for congressional races then slip out before casting a vote for people who have no business being given the responsibility and honor of running our nation.

This whole thing is sick. Sick.








Sue Williams (09:56:01) :

Oh my gosh, you guys. Please. What do I care if Trig is Bristol’s baby? Maybe he was and now she’s pregnant again. I don’t know. That seems unlikely to me. Look, all I can tell you is Bristol is pregnant. Have you never lived in a small town? When one hears this “rumor” (and okay, I admit, I never heard it straight from Sarah’s mouth) but have heard it from close to 20 people who are all long time friends of the family. Maybe they are all lying - and have been lying since April of this year when Willow’s boyfriend (Willow is the 8th grader) wouldn’t shut up about how Bristol was pregnant. The story came out (not by the news, of course, because all four reporters in this state wanted Sarah to choose them next for some cool govt post) but by everyone whose anyone around here (and it’s not a hard job to be an “everyone” when there’s so few of us).

What I’m seeing is that America doesn’t know how small towns work. You either lead the lily pure white life, or you move to a city, or, when your child turns up pregnant at 16, you hide her somewhere. That’s what happened here. Now, apparently, Sarah is keeping Bristol on the bus with Trig while she makes her appearances.

This must be the problem with conspirators, when the truth stares them straight in the eyes, they don’t know how to recongize it. Please.

[charlyvi]

29. Please don't take offense at this.

But your subject line reads like a soap opera review. LOL.

[solowannabee]

32. oh.....

well, shucks, there goes my career as a soap opera writer. Thanks for the career advice!

[charlyvi]

39. No, I'm not criticizing at all.

I got a chuckle out of it.

[solowannabee]

57. likewise

same here.....

[hisownpetard]

102. And welcome to DU!

[charlyvi]

103. Oh yes. Welcome to DU!

Forgive my manners.

[trueblue2007]

42. THIS LAST POST ON THIS THREAD~~~ Deserves it's own thread!!!

Please post it so everyone can see it.

[solowannabee]

56. I am so glad to see

that at least one person here besides me sees that Bristol is PREGNANT NOW. Thank you!

[NotThisTime]

71. Is that picture taken from a few days ago? I didn't see the daughter at the conference...

[solowannabee]

119. when

I really do not know when it was taken. I am pretty sure it was really recent because of the size of the baby. I was hoping someone here would know.

[Tansy_Gold]

131. It appears to have been taken Thursday, the day of the

announcement. McCain is in the background getting his make-up refreshed. I think.

[tblue37]

78. Sue WIlliams also wrote this:

Part of this is kind of starting to be funny for me - though, from a Valley Perspective (for anyone who wants to hear this) yesterday felt like someone had died. People were walking around saying how they wanted to throw up. Truly. I’ve never heard (or read, try andrew halcro.com or adn.com so many people describe feeling like they were going to get physically sick and vomit). That’s how CRAZY this sounded to all of us.<emphasis added (fyi - on those blogs, esp the adn site you’ll find a posse of Palinbots - as they’re referred to up here - who think she can do no wrong. These are what we call “bumper sticker” citizens. If an idea is too long for a bumper sticker, it’s too complicated for them to try and wrap their minds around. These people, by and large, compose Sarah’s base. The 80% approval numbers you all - and presumably McCain - heard of where wrong).

IOW, the people who know Sarah Palin best feel sick, as though someone had died, at the very idea that this woman could be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

'Nuff said.

[solowannabee]

120. palin

palin seems like a real dynamo in one respect, a force of nature, you might say. Persoanlly I find that sort of person scary. But I think most politicians are like that--pretty cocksure, unfortunately for the rest of us.

I guess that sort of person can make a lot of enemies. Looks like williams is an enemy of palin.

[FrenchieCat]

162. Yeah...OK...Whatever...

And your reason for being here, exactly? What is it?

I just paged over your "Baby" post really, really quick without reading it. I think its garbage, and that this Palin's got a hell lot more to worry about than some rumor that won't be proven. There are facts of malfeasant that have little to do with an Inquirer only worthy story.


:eyes:

[susu369]

194. "Valley Perspective"

Harper Valley?

:rofl:

I wanna tell you all a story bout the Harper Valley widow wife
Who had a teenage daughter who attended Harper Valley's Junior High
Well her daughter come home one afternoon and didn't even stop to play
And she said mom I got a note here from the Harper Valley PTA......

[Waiting For Everyman]

79. Wanna bet Bristol somehow "loses" her baby sometime soon?

Of course that wouldn't be absolutely necessary, they could just "borrow" or adopt another too.

Now I'm sure Trig is Bristol's... b/c a halfway cover story is admitted among the locals, so they won't catch on. It's just as easy for Bristol to be wearing the "pregnant pillow" now, as for Sarah to have worn it earlier. Admitting Bristol's pregnancy but making it generally believed that her due date was AFTER Sarah's is a ploy to make it seem more believable, and be questioned less.

I'm sure the press will straighten it out eventually, but it needs to be before the election, not after.

Palin's duping the locals too. And not doing it very well IMO.

[solowannabee]

83. you think trig is bristol's????

what about the photo I just posted that shows Bristol preg and holding trig??!!

[undeterred]

106. That could easily be a picture taken shortly after he was born

and before she lost the baby weight.

[solowannabee]

114. yeah

but the baby is already pretty big in that pic, though...

[whopis01]

189. But why would she fake a pregnancy

to cover up her daughter's pregnancy and then have her daughter fake a pregnancy anyway?

[1Hippiechick]

101. WEALTH of info here - went online and checked out some of the blogs - TONS of info

WHEN is any of this going to hit the MSM!

To those of you w/Repuke friends who have e-mail: get this stuff started!

[solowannabee]

121. i think the media will have to get into it pretty soon

but what if I am right, and the baby was Sarah's baby. That means that the media would have to talk about Bristol's out of wedlock pregnancy, which I doubt they would do.

Of course, heh heh, given the GOP attitude about family values and all, it would seem to be fair game--live by the sword, die by sword, as they say.

[krkaufman]

167. Not necessarily pregnant now, if she hasn't lost the weight from the first pregnancy. nt

[shellgame26]

169. looks like a post-preggers body to me

Sarah on the OTOH doesn't look post-preggers at all!

[blossomstar]

197. Good post written from the heart. Thanks for sharing the truth...

[LaurenG]

24. I wonder if he is going to "un-ask" her to run with him once he finds out he's "screwn" himself.

:wow:

[npincus]

25. LOL-- Shoot FIRST! Ask questions LATER!

:rofl:

WHy does (Republican) America always elevate incompetents?

[charlyvi]

33. Just what we need in a chief executive.

A lunatic with his finger on the button.

[glitch]

67. They have no choice -- it's all they've got.

Corruption attracts incompetence. Competent people don't need to be corrupt to make a living.

[anigbrowl]

69. You mean like this?

[medicswife]

26. Wow. Boy I didn't think Bush's incompetence could be topped.

:dem: I sure have been wrong a lot lately.

[crazylikafox]

28. Thomas Eagleton

Can somebody please refresh my memory? Was Eagleton actually nominated for VP by the convention? Or was he out before he became "official"?

[jwirr]

72. He was official. Wehad the bumperstickers and posters and all. nt

[charlyvi]

84. Yep. It broke my heart. The first time I could vote. n/t

[Agent William]

91. I think he pulled out before the he got the nomination.

The parallels between McCain and McGovern are striking. Eagleton was replaced by Sargent Shriver, after all the big names in the Democrat party declined the invitation.

I just hope that the American people see through the veneer of Phalin... don't count on it. :banghead:

[charlyvi]

97. Nope. It was after.

The memory is seared on my consciousness forever.


The 1972 National Convention of the United States Democratic Party was held at Miami Beach Convention Center in Miami Beach, Florida from July 10 to July 13, 1972. It nominated Senator George McGovern for President and Senator Thomas Eagleton for Vice President. Eagleton later withdrew from the race when it was disclosed that he had undergone mental health treatment (including electroshock therapy) in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Democratic_National_Convention

[Agent William]

123. So he was choosen

without careful review? I have heard of this before but I thought that ended with Humphrey in 68'. I suppose that Nixon was considered unbeatable back then. Wow, conventions must have been early back then, early as in mid-July.

:hi:

[charlyvi]

127. You know,

conventions were much more exciting then. I'm sure they vetted anyone who was on the short list before the conventions, but not knowing who the choices were made for very dramatic conventions. The roll calls, which are my favorite part, used to mean something then. Now it's mostly about the speeches, which is okay, but much of the thrill is gone for me.

[jwirr]

100. He was actually selected at the convention. Since then we have

selected our VP before so they could be vetted.

[Agent William]

122. Thanks, good to know

For some reason I thought that 68' was the last time parties choose the VP with out thorough review.

:hi:

[PBS Poll-435]

149. Yeah....Hi.....We are the Democratic Party

People like Rust Limba and Spawn Insanity use "Democrat Party."

Just thought you should know...

[Agent William]

151. I heard this somewhere.

I forgot what the differentiation is. What is it?

Must have slipped my mind.

[PBS Poll-435]

153. The difference is simply that we are the Democratic Party

Anything else is simply uncivilized.

Those RW A-holes use it as a slur. You shouldn't.

[kath]

161. uh, scuse me. That's "DemocratIC party".

thank you.

{on edit - someone beat me to it. Thanks.}

[lapfog_1]

30. 8 rooms at the hotel?

I'm surprised that a town that sized HAS a hotel with 8 rooms.

I live in a town of 2000 and we have one bed and breakfast with maybe 4 or 5 rooms.

[Coexist]

31. wow.

[Kber]

35. Vetting and governing is for chumps, doncha know?

Sort of thing Clinton would have done.

[charlyvi]

48. POWs don't have to vet.

They just know.

[medicswife]

74. Just like Chuck Norris. He doesn't have to vet either. nt

[npincus]

36. I LOVE this comment from the blog page:

oh really Says:

Presumptive President John McPOW will soon announce that the vetting of Palin has been suspended because all hands are needed on the front lines of Gustav—the Central Front in the War on Nature

[charlyvi]

41. Bwhahahahaha!

Is it just me or is McCain running this Gustav thing in the ground? Is there any Gulf State he hasn't popped up in today?

[ellaydubya]

37. This is incomprehensible!!!

The Vice President is a very important position- a heartbeat, literally, away from the Presidency- yet McCain's people did no serious checking into her background and he only met her once!?!?!?!?!?! Give me a break!!!!!! That is a slap in the face to our political process and shows how incompetent he is for the position of POTUS!!!!!! The audacity, the laziness, the arrogance.... We should all be outraged---me, myself, have been in complete shock since his choice was announced- I keep thinking this is someone who knows he is going to lose or wants to lose.....what a crazy place we are in.

BUT, on the other hand, we have the beautiful, smart, visionary team of Obama and Biden, and I could not be prouder. Every time I see and hear them I am more proud than before - we cannot let the Republicans steal this one from us- No way, no how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put your boots on, folks, we might have to kick a little ass!:bounce: :mad: :crazy: :kick: :patriot:

[adamuu]

73. now we know why his campaign was so tight-lipped about the choice!

he didn't decide until like the day before!!

[Muttocracy]

82. he wasn't keeping a secret - there was no VP! nt

[charlyvi]

85. LOL! n/t

[MO_Dem]

96. Yes, a very important position!

Not only to the "health" of the pres., but an official of the senate (help! I can't think of the precise title, but the VP has to break tie votes, doesn't (s)he?) Plus, presides if there's an impeachment? There's probably more, but that's all I can think of just now.

[PBS Poll-435]

152. The Vice President is the President of the Senate regardless of party control

[Skidmore]

40. So this act of incompetence is fine with the old guard of that party?

Interesting. Something to hammer on.

[Oak2004]

157. The old guard is almost gone

The GOP is almost entirely populated by the wave of ideologues that started to come to power in the '80's. What's left of the old guard (much of it is dead) is too old to do much, too loyal to object too loudly, or so disgusted it now calls itself "independent", "Democrat", "Libertarian", or "Republicans for Obama".

[Arugula Latte]

45. Yeah -- That's the type of judgment and decision-making habits we want in a president....

:wow:

[treestar]

47. Their usual incompetence

How do these morans manage to convince the idiot voters they are the ones who can keep their helpless asses "safe?"

[monmouth]

59. The first smart decisions by Bush and Cheney was to stay the hell outta there...LOL..n/t

[LeftishBrit]

50. Don't you usually do that BEFORE giving someone a job?

[charlyvi]

54. Not if you're a POW.

[adamuu]

76. P O Dubya n/t

[nini]

51. Haven't we had enough of 'Act first...then check the facts'?

MORE OF THE SAME.

[Fleshdancer]

52. WTF were they doing this entire time?

Can someone please call the McCain campaign and remind them this is a Presidential campaign?

[charlyvi]

70. Vetting the SERIOUS VP candidates.

But what the hell, why not think out of the box?

[tannybogus]

55. Watch out!

They'll discover she was a POW. She was captured by the people in that extremely close country - Russia.:yoiks:

[skooooo]

60. Watch out for the drunk drivers in Wasilla!!!

It's a bad place for that, for some reason.

[charlyvi]

64. Maybe it's the 20 million in debt she left the town with.

It's about 3k and change per person. I'd drink too.

[skooooo]

75. It's a death trap.

I was visiting there and was warned over and over about a certain stretch of highway that sees a lot of accidents from drunk drivers. Lots of drugs in the area too.

[yourguide]

61. OMG, the Obama people beat him to vetting his own candidate???

The dems are already THERE!!!

[spanone]

63. this could get good, pass the popcorn

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[LastDemocratInSC]

80. She'll be a female Tom Eagleton by the end of next week

[charlyvi]

90. Do you really think so?

Or is he too damn stubborn.

[Window]

81. Unbelievable.

[bbgrunt]

93. unf**ing believable. the clown party. (no offense to clowns)

[rainbow4321]

95. I imagine they are there to pay off Palin's son-in-law's family

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6851895&mesg_id=6851895


And threaten/pay off anyone else who thinks that they may make a few bucks off of Palin's past.

Betcha all of her files/emails as MAYOR are disappearing as we speak.

[charlyvi]

99. Too bad they can't pay down the 20 mill debt she left the town of Wasilla drowning in.

But that's not the Republican way. Deficits don't count.

[TexasLady]

104. Because McCain had a crush from the start

yuk, I can't go on with this post..

Why do I keep picturing McCain as Elmer Fudd...

[charlyvi]

105. Yeah. It would be insulting to vet a soulmate. LOL!

[applegrove]

107. Unbelievable.

[drm604]

108. So this was most likely a last minute decision.

I suspect that she wasn't his original choice. Probably the first choice didn't work out for some reason. Weren't there rumors about Pawlenty?

[charlyvi]

109. Pawlenty, Romney and Lieberman.

I think he really, really wanted Lieberman but the Base wouldn't accept it. So much for Mr. Maverick.

[drm604]

111. The more I think about it the stranger this seems.

Anybody with any sense would have thoroughly vetted everyone on their short list by now so that they'd have backups if their first choice wasn't available or turned it down for some reason.

I think the campaign is in panicked disarray.

[charlyvi]

112. Scarey, isn't it?

Sometimes I think he's got PTSD or something. How in hell can you choose a veep without vetting? EVERYONE'S got skeletons in their closet, it's just who has the least damaging ones. Hell, that's what vetting is for.

[gemlake]

113. According to ABC, Lieberman was the top choice until this week

ABC's Political Radar blog

"It wasn't until Sunday night that John McCain, after meeting with his four top advisers, finally decided he could not tap independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut to be his running mate. One adviser, tasked with taking the temperature of the conservative base, had strongly made the case to McCain that it would be a disaster for the party and that the base would revolt."

Whatever "vetting" that was done must have been minimal.

[Tutonic]

132. Rove killed the Lieberman pick and the immature and petulant

side of McCain flared. Look what it got us.

[myrna minx]

115. I think he got wasted the night of Obama's speech and did a drunk dial

to Palin. He's been doing the walk of shame ever since. I'm convinced that this was a last minute decision too.

[MadrasT]

148. Drunk dial! That explains everything!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[PBS Poll-435]

156. Oh....Totally....

Ring, ring, ring....

Ring, ring, ring....

P: Hello.

M: Hey BABY, how are your tatas?

P: Excuse me? Who is this? This better not be Jonah Goldberg, again.

M: No baby, this is the next President.

P: President of what, exactly?

M: The United States of America!

P: Oh gosh, Sen. McCain, I am so gosh darn sorry!

M: It's ok. I am kinda talking quiet. I don't want to wake up "Cruella"

P: Your dog?

M: Yep, that's what I call her too.

P: Anyway, sir, is there anything I can help you with?

M: Yeah. Lieberman's a Jew. Doesn't help my church credentials. Wanna be VP?

[paparush]

203. OMFG! "cruella"

[yardwork]

190. LOL!

[zulchzulu]

116. It's just like how he was for the Iraq War... shoot first, ask questions later

What a pathetic swine.

[Arrowhead2k1]

117. How fucking strange. I mean W-T-F?!?

You know, before, even though I realized the stakes I never imagined a McCain administration could be any more of a disaster than Bush and we're still pretty much in the game. But now, FUUUUUCK. I'm freaking scared for this country. Like genuinely fucking petrified!!! This guy, and everyone around advising him must be FUCKING INSANE!@

[LonelyLRLiberal]

171. Agree - it's downright terrifying. nt

[jimlup]

118. wow!

:rofl:

[Erin Elizabeth]

124. K&R

[President Decider]

126. THEY'RE NOT VETTING .. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE INVESTIGATION GO AWAY

This is McCain's thugs going out there to strong-arm state officials to make the Federal investigation surrounding her go away.

[charlyvi]

129. They can't make newspaper archives or townspeople go away.

[Oak2004]

159. But they're incompetent and arrogant and desperate enough to try n/t

[drm604]

141. I think you may be right.

Are you just surmising this or do you have a source?

[TrogL]

130. They need to check photographers' studios

Looking for nude pictures.

[Canuckistanian]

134. Wasilla HAS eight hotel rooms?

I did not know that.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

136. Obama's team needs to make an ad out of this.

And they should end it with the Palin clip where she says, "What exactly is it that the VP does?"

[NJCher]

137. this is great

this is the best thing that could happen for us.

wow, I am just so happy. :):):):)



Cher

[beac]

140. Well this ought to help the town dig out of the $20 million debt she

left them with. Hotel and diners in Wasilla will be packed to the gills for the next week!

[D23MIURG23]

142. I know its "maverick" to shoot first and ask questions later...

but did he really think he would get away with this?

If he uncovers something problematic now, he has to either suck it up and stay with trophy veep, or make himself look like an ass by naming someone else.

[charlyvi]

143. He may still get away with it.

He has the media in his pocket.

[Agent William]

150. That thought always lingers in the back of my head.

Ever time I see the Rupugs do something criminal, I also get to watch them get away with it. Every time! I fear that the M$M will spin this woman into a credible candidate, :puke:

[charlyvi]

154. I just hope she dispells that notion

every time she opens her mouth.

[Agent William]

158. Indeed.

Although I remember thinking the same thing about GWB. I openly laughed at the thought of Al Gore not getting 99% of the vote. I just hope the American people are smarter this time around.

[Oak2004]

160. We however have the "new media" in our "pockets", and the corporate media

can't ignore the internet buzz for too long.

[D23MIURG23]

170. Its a good point, but we aren't locked out the way we were a few years ago either.

We have a few allies like KO and Maddow, and blog stories are being covered more often these days.

In any case, there are other reasons I wouldn't have made this pick if I were McCain.

Exhibit A:



Try spinning that ^^^^

He has never looked older.

[charlyvi]

177. True. We do have more outlets.

Thank goodness. And the GOP is fast looking like last century's news.

[Phredicles]

146. Recommended - as an example of how McCrash approaches big

decisions, it deserves to be humongous news.

[WA98296]

155. A hotel in Wasilla has EIGHT rooms? Wow, that is amazing.

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

163. Rumor is Ed runs it now.

I also heard Roslyn's Cafe has wi-fi now too, if you happen to be downtown.

Enjoy.

[Kablooie]

164. Doesn't he realize that if a Republican bases a campaign on honesty that means they are dishonest?

Almost every thing Republicans base their campaigns on are the exact opposite of their own behavior.
Just look at the record.

[ForeignSpectator]

165. It's really like Kerry said, it's as if they let limbaugh make the choice...

This stuff is just getting better and better every day, and I don't even care about all the baby stories...count them in and whoohoo, you got yourself 24 hours reading material on the net.

[AtomicKitten]

168. McBush's incompetence is terrifying.

[Name removed]

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[ClusterFreak]

174. You disrupt poorly my friend.

Very, very poorly.

[hasssan1]

178. Please Don't talk Like this here.Very Awfully comments.

[ClusterFreak]

173. So....

...shoot first and ask questions later? Is that it?

I see.

Worst. Presidential candidate. Ever.

(...and yes...that includes Chimpy. I can't believe I said it either.)

[hasssan1]

176. This is Outrages , They don't even choose VP like this in AFGHANISTAN , With all Respect To my fello...

[dkofos]

179. McPOW is in for a BIG SURPRISE!!

Maybe they can postpone the convention till Wednesday.

[Zambero]

180. McCain clearly wants to lose

I can't imagine a bigger shipwreck than Palin. Unfortunately for him, what's left of his campaign will remain mired on the rocks, even if he dumps her in short order.

[George II]

181. EIGHT ROOMS? That's probably the whole town's hotel inventory!

[sasquatch]

182. Ready, FIRE, aim.

:crazy:

[L0oniX]

183. Select a VP and check them out later and go to war with Iran and find out later...

that they were not making WMD. Wonderful judgment skills there buddy.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

185. Ready, Fire, Aim from the GOP.

:rofl:

[BonnieJW]

187. All 8 rooms in Wasilla????

Where will the other tourist stay?

[robertpaulsen]

188. As Howard Hunt would say, "Good God!"

This is worse than Dan Quayle. Hell, this is worse than Eagleton! Selecting, then vetting?! Obama needs to crucify McCain over this gaffe at the debates.

[djp2]

191. She won't last to November

I Posted a few days ago....

I'm not going back on my prediction that McCain won't last as a candidate till November. But now am throwing in that Palin won't either. A week or two after the hoopla at the Repug convention, she will be found to have a skeleton in her closet and dropped (not very well vetted), with a NEW VP candidate appt.made by McCain.

Watch for that new VP candidate to be the REAL presidential nominee when McCain has "Health problems" around the middle of Oct., too late to get the dirt on the VP replacement, who will get sympathy vote, it could even be another female.

[charlyvi]

193. Joe Lieberman perhaps? n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

192. And when he pushes that red button,

how many days will it take for him to consider his decision?

This is precisely the sort of hyper-impulsive, reckless hot-head we need running this country, no? :eyes:

[hasssan1]

195. Where is all the Responsible Media Coverage ??????????

[hay rick]

199. just more water under the levee n/t

[happygoluckytoyou]

200. PREEMPTIVE STRIKE #2..... we are now 0-2

[Douglas Carpenter]

202. that's what I have been thinking myself