Wild theory on how "babygate" could work out with Rovians at play

[bidenista]

Bearing in mind that McCain is now using Steve Schmidt, one of Rove's proteges, as a strategist/adviser, how surprising would the following scenario be:

1. "Babygate" continues to be pushed in fringe Democratic circles, with occasional references in the MSM (like the Times piece).

2. The McCain black ops people note this (assuming they're not driving it), and decide to stoke the fires a bit.

3. The same people plant "evidence" of the rumor's truth in an Alaskan archive somewhere, where journalists - driven by the rumors - will find it.

4. The evidence, when publicized, contains irrefutable proof of being falsified. RW blogs, "helped" by the same people who created the evidence in the first place, show how it is fake.

5. "Babygate" is discredited, and Dems can be fairly attacked for having rounded on a woman and her Downs Syndrome child.

Now I dunno if that was the gameplan from the beginning. But we saw this exact play with the TANG documents for *. While I don't think the Palin rumors are true - unlike the * ones - I do think that the same sick minds that have been running this campaign so far would leap at an opportunity to pay homage to their master Karl.

[tabatha]

1. A birth certiciate is a birth certificate is a birth certificate.

No story.

[GrizzlyMan]

23. I'm with you

But let's get real here, she's the gov. of a small state (population wise) that has a rich history of cronyism and corruption. The birth certificate could easily be made to say whatever she wanted it to say.

[DarthDem]

2. Once Again

Everything is not a Karl Rove plot.

Everything is not a conspiracy.

Republican strategists are not brilliant, grandmaster-level masterminds who think five moves ahead on the board (which board contains more variables than a chess game in any case), who would engineer the selection of a complete lightweight just because they knew that there was a potential scandal, which, if investigated, could redound to their benefit and to the detriment of Democrats.

Occam's Razor, *please*. Sometimes an idiotic decision is just an idiotic decision.

[bidenista]

5. i don't doubt that

But let's say that they know they have a weak pick and see Dems attack her on "baby conspiracy" grounds. You don't think they'd try to spin those attacks to their advantage - if necessary, by making it look as if Dems are willing to fake evidence to smear a woman and two of her kids?

[DarthDem]

7. Because No One is Pushing the Story

The Obama/Biden campaign has absolutely nothing to do with it. Dems aren't attacking her.

[avaistheone1]

16. This story started as a local ground swell in Alaska.

The dirt evidently is in Palin's own backyard.

I hardly think it can be blamed on the Dems.

[kwolf68]

6. Why doesnt the OP have a point?

I think the OP is onto something and it doesn't seem to be outside the norm.

I will say though that the one thing they fail to count on is Obama and Biden taking the bait. They won't.

[DarthDem]

9. There's No Bait

Everything is not a carefully planned, meticulously logical, metapsychic Rovian deathtrap.

But you're right, and that's the key. While there's no bait IMHO, no one at the Obama/Biden camp is buying into it, or, in fact, doing anything about Ms. Palin. They're too smart. They're treating McClown's pick with all the gravitas and attention it deserves.

[gmoney]

24. like the "fake" TANG memo that killed Dan Rather's career?

Even if what the fake memo said was true, the fact that Rather put stock in the fake led to his downfall...

The scenario the OP describes isn't far from the same thing, but does seem a bit convoluted with only 60+ days until the election. Even if babygate doesn't stick, she's still a terrible choice.

[glitch]

13. FWIW Occam's razor is very overused, especially in politics where people have and act on agendas.

It works for for natural systems though. Sometimes.

[DarthDem]

20. I Couldn't Disagree More

It's very apropos when people posit a mastermind behind certain results, based on all sorts of unnatural (to borrow your term) reactions in an ever-increasing chain of irrationality.

[cliffordu]

15. Hey! Don't bring any COMMON SENSE into this conversation, it fucks up the

hollering and disrupts that fine patina of paranoia.

M'Kay??

:rofl:

[DarthDem]

19. SORRY!!!

"Patina" - - love it :rofl:

[lapfog_1]

3. Shades of CBS / Dan Rather...

and entirely possible.

Let's leave it to the National Enquirer.

[will3800]

27. Exactly n/t

[AlCzervik]

4. Karl Rove is an overrated Hack. I wish people would start marginalizing him.

[cliffordu]

17. I'd give someone a hundred dollars to let me kick him in the junk.

[AlCzervik]

18. i'll let you, hell i'll even give you a ride there.

[Zookeeper]

8. Exactly. That is part of my concern with pursuing this rumor...

The other concern if the story is true, it won't necessarily be a negative for Palin and McCrazy. She may very well garner sympathy and admiration for "protecting" her daughter, trying to keep family issues private, for not allowing the choice of an abortion and for choosing to raise a Down's Syndrome child.

We would be much better off focusing on her lack of experience, fundie-Pentacostal views, anti-choice stance, trooper-gate and whatever else comes to light that isn't so personal.

[glitch]

10. That certainly is the Rovian mode. Lots of potential here. But

I think Rove's tricks are tired and even if some here do bite most are just sick of his obvious shit. And the Dem party will never take this bait, thank God they are too sophisticated for it, so they'll have to rely on "internet gossip" to fuel the fundy fire. IOW, weak. I don't think they picked her because Rove had a trick in mind, which means they probably overlooked the hometown "scandal" and the best they can hope for is to take advantage of a bad move.

She's got plenty of political problems that provide enough ammo without having to go baby. Corruption, abuse of power, anti-birth control, pro-wolf puppy killing, rank inexperience.

[wuushew]

11. Please...Rove is an idiot

The lessons of 2006 supersede the shenanigans of 2004. Rove wanted the GOP to embrace the success of Iraq! Look where that got them.

[AlCzervik]

14. yup, just like Rove has "His own numbers" in 2006.

[Ernesto-Che-Guevara]

12. Your logic makes sense

Let's not forget that all circumstancial evidence pointed at the fact that Bush was AWOL from the military, but they successfully hid this.

[Generic Brad]

21. You give the Republicans far too much credit

It is obvious they really don't know what they are doing and are making it up as they go along. The McCain camp is as scattered, clueless, and out of touch as their leader. These people are lazy and do not do their homework. She was a hasty pick made out of panic and now they are learning how disastrous her selection was.

Palin is turning out to be the gift keeps on giving.

[Generic Brad]

22. n/t

[bridgit]

25. Ding! Stranger things have already happened

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6842975&mesg_id=6851634

[will3800]

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