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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:18 PM
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Palin thinks Pledge written by Founding Fathers
Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 02:56:04 PM PDT
by JLFinch

Good lord, this woman is a female George Bush.

Here is Palin's response to a candidate questionnaire for the Alaska 2006 gubernatorial race:

11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance

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Ok.

First, the Pledge of Allegiance was not written by the Founding Fathers. It was written much later. Secondly, the words "under God" were not originally part of the Pledge. "Under God" was added even later.

Wikipedia on the Pledge of Allegiance:

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian Socialist, and the cousin of Socialist Utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898).

Bellamy's original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8th issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of America, conceived by James B. Upham.

Bellamy's original Pledge read, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

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In New York City on April 22, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words "under God" after the words "one nation." In the following two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. On August 21, 1952, the Supreme Council of the Knights of Columbus at its annual meeting adopted a resolution urging that the change be made universal and copies of this resolution were sent to the President, the Vice President (as Presiding Officer of the Senate) and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. The National Fraternal Congress meeting in Boston on September 24, 1952, adopted a similar resolution upon the recommendation of its President, Supreme Knight Luke E. Hart. Several State Fraternal Congresses acted likewise almost immediately thereafter. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed.

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After the service concluded, Docherty had opportunity to converse with Eisenhower about the substance of the sermon. The President expressed his enthusiastic concurrence with Docherty’s view, and the very next day, Eisenhower had the wheels turning in Congress to incorporate Docherty’s suggestion into law. On February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect.

And just FYI on the timing of the Founding Fathers:

The signatories of the Declaration of Independence are often called "Founders," and the delegates of the Philadelphia Convention which prepared the Constitution are often called "Framers." According to Joseph J. Ellis, this concept emerged in the 1820s as the last survivors died out. George Washington was always the dominant figure. He was joined by John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and after that, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay, George Mason, Samuel Adams, and others. Ellis says the "the founders," or "the fathers" comprised an aggregate of semi-sacred figures whose particular accomplishments and singular achievements were decidedly less important than their sheer presence as a powerful but faceless symbol of past greatness.

For the generation of national leaders coming of age in the 1820s and 1830s — men like Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, and John C. Calhoun — "the founders" represented a heroic but anonymous abstraction whose long shadow fell across all followers and whose legendary accomplishments defied comparison. "We can win no laurels in a war for independence," Webster acknowledged in 1825. "Earlier and worthier hands have gathered them all. Nor are there places for us ... the founders of states. Our fathers have filled them. But there remains to us a great duty of defence and preservation."

Stupid is as stupid does, Governor.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/31/174153/834/246/581480
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:20 PM
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1. Is her favorite philosopher also Jesus Christ? LMAO
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:21 PM
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2. THANK you for this thread.
This is much more relevant and provable than you know what.

I find it absolutely horrifying that she doesn't know what even grade school kids know about the Pledge.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:28 PM
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3. Oh that's just friggin' wonderful
another idiot.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:29 PM
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4. Haven't we been embarressed long enough by the repubs
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:30 PM
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5. Dumber than a sack of hammers
No doubt about it, Probably thinks Fundie Jeebus wrote the Constitution while riding a dinosaur.

The original pledge was written by a freaking socialist, IIRC.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:34 PM
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8. And not nearly as useful.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:36 PM
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9. Yep--and its purpose was to boost the sale of a boy's magazine. n/t
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:31 PM
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6. I nearly fell down laughing when I saw this

It should be spouted all across the media. This individual doesn't even know basic history and that which she doesn't know she is so careless as she exposes her ignorance.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:32 PM
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7. Moran. n/t
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lolamio Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:37 PM
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10. I just bookmarked and copied the page from the original source.
It's too good to pass up and I don't want it to mysteriously disappear from the internets.

What a freaking moron.:eyes:
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:55 PM
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11. She believes in creationism, I kid you not!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:56 PM
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12. I was on the phone this evening with a good friend and she thought
she had all the dirt on Miss Wasilla 1984 until I told her about the Pledge thing.

She was, like WTF????????? W. T. F.????? That woman's dumber than a box of rocks!!!!!

For people who practically WORSHIP the Pledge of Allegiance, the fascists sure don't seem to know or care much about its actual history.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 10:57 PM
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13. I bet she thinks the founding fathers made the 50-star flag too. nt
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:16 PM
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14. "Under God" was a product of the McCarthy era.
The phrase was inserted to differentiate us from the godless communists that scared us so much.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:19 PM
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15. ...and she probabally thinks the founding fathers were Abe Lincoln and JFK...
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