I've changed my mind about Palin. Seriously.

[pnwmom]

I had thought this hubbub about her pregnancy was really over the top. I still think that it is NOT an issue that the CAMPAIGN should be pushing.

However, I also cannot believe that she was 7 months pregnant in the video below. She gave birth, supposedly, only a couple of weeks after the announcement. How does anyone who is 7 months along sit in this hunched forward position? I had three babies, the first was less than 7 pounds and I didn't show much. But I couldn't have sat forward and hunched over the way this woman does. Look at this and decide for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZHI4aHW0wU

[valerief]

1. She's an Anti-Christ Liar, if I may borrow a fundie concept.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6857235&mesg_id=6857315

She wants to repeal tax credits to companies who provide health care, but she against federally funded health care, too.

Lucifer!

[DesertFlower]

3. anti-christ liar. that's a good one. lol

[valerief]

6. Lame, I know, but I'm punchy now. nt

[pnwmom]

4. People who believe in that stuff don't believe it could be female. Oh well.

What do they know?

[valerief]

9. What do I know? I'm not even religious. I think Lucifer is a kinda cool name, though.

It's got a hip-hop feel to it.

[Hissyspit]

19. Morning Star

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

[valerief]

23. So I guess Satanists' favorite show is "I Love Lucifer" and favorite

book is "Marjorie Morningstar."

Or Palin's. To me, fundies and satanists are interchangeable.

:crazy:

[judasdisney]

43. Seriously: IS Sarah Palin the Antichrist?

The Mysterious Stranger.

"Sarah Louise Heath Palin"

is an anagram for

'Super Ha Ha! Halo alienist.'

"Heath" is etymologically related to "heathen,"

and "Louise" is of course etymologically related to Lucifer.

If there's an online movement out there creating an inquiry as to whether Obama's the Antichrist, then
we certainly need to create a similar inquiry about the Mysterious Stranger known as Sarah:

What do we really know about her?

Who is she, really?

[DesertFlower]

2. i remember crying because i couldn't cut my toenails. nt

[pnwmom]

8. And a bunch of other things, too, probably.

Pregnancy isn't for weaklings!

[DesertFlower]

10. no it's not and i was only 19 at the time.

[valerief]

11. When you were pregnant, right? Or just because you didn't have toenail clippers?

:crazy: :crazy:

BTW, I'm punchy now.

[DesertFlower]

14. yes, when i was pregnant. nt

[valerief]

17. Oh, good. Now it makes sense. LOL.

:crazy:

Still punchy but I can't tear myself away to go to bed.

[DesertFlower]

21. i know. i should have gone to bed

half an hour ago.

[merwin]

5. You don't have to convince me!

She had no baby.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. If it turns out that she was lying..and trying to cover up her daughters pregnancy..it will be the

end of her campaign

[tbyg52]

12. And should be the end of the Repug party

but the darn thing keeps rising from the grave.

[valerief]

25. Like Zombies. The Zombie Party. But I LIKE zombies and I don't like republicans.

Oh, what a paradox! How do I reconcile it?????


:crazy: :crazy:

[valerief]

13. Yeah, but if it's denied, it will be just like she had the baby.

These neocons rewrite history faster than Big Brother.

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. It will not only be the end of her campaign but the end of McCain's campaign

Some people don't get that point.

[Cronus Protagonist]

15. It really doesn't matter - and we don't need that to kick McCain/Palin out of contention either

I think this should be in the lounge because it's idle gossip. Fun, but idle gossip nonetheless. It has nothing to do with the campaign.

[tbyg52]

18. Yet. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Thank you

No way was she pregnant in that video. No way.

[Erin Elizabeth]

22. I haven't weighed in on this stuff at all so far.

But I have to say, if that was really her at seven months in that last part, all scrunched over, able to wrap her arms around the front of her knees like that.....I'd have to seriously doubt she was seven months along. Or pregnant at all. I was hoping to get a better look when she stood up at the end, but she sort of half-stood, then turned around with her back to the camera.

No woman at seven months sits like that, not even one who isn't all that huge. You just....can't. It's not so much the belly, remember this is the uterus, the protrusion starts really far down, so sitting like that just isn't much of an option.

IF she were trying to hide that she wasn't pregnant, sitting like that would hide it, but it also doesn't look natural at all for being "seven months." I guess it was better than resorting to a fake belly.

All that being said, I still have no idea about all this and think that probably Palin will be asked to withdraw from the race in a little bit and she'll cite family reasons. It won't be just because of this, or even at all because of this, but because of the cumulative effect of everything else.

[pnwmom]

33. Right. And the "protrusion" that starts way down holds a hard head, shoulders,

and other hard bones. I don't see how a 7 month pregnant woman could scrunch herself together that way.

[Erin Elizabeth]

37. Exactly.

Not every baby has turned and gone head down at 7 months, but a LOT have. They've gotten too big to flip around any more. Just that head down there alone makes it difficult to scrunch over in any shape or form.

[pnwmom]

41. And the other big question for me

is why the mother is letting her daughter dangle in the wind.

It must be awful for the girl -- is she supposed to go back to school with these rumors hanging over her head?

If Sarah is the mom, she should get the proof out there -- NOW -- so the daughter doesn't have to go through any more of this. It's too late to put the Genie back in the bottle. Palin has to deal with this.

[justiceischeap]

24. It's her baby, here is the photo to prove it

Blog entry from DailyKos
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/31/234157/516/1017/581734

[Fearless]

26. ---

[Lars39]

29. From the photos "found" at Free Republic.

[pnwmom]

34. That picture doesn't really prove anything does it.

It might have been photoshopped -- considering the original freeper source.

And assuming it wasn't photoshopped, we also don't know that the bump was all natural. Do we? The question remains -- how did she manage all that scrunching and hunching forward in the video at 7 months pregnant?

[justiceischeap]

36. I can say with a modicum of authority, that image was NOT photoshopped.

As far as the video, who knows, but I think we're beating a dead horse here. Bristol may or may not be currently preggers but Trigg, IMO, is 99.999% Sarah's.

[pnwmom]

42. Okay, I'm wanting to believe you're right.

My problem is that this mother is letting her daughter dangle in the wind. Why is Palin allowing her daughter to have to suffer through these rumors when Sarah could end it all by releasing her medical records?

This has been whispered about in Alaska for months, and now it's even being covered in the daily newspaper in Anchorage. Is the daughter supposed to go back to school with these rumors hanging over her head? SHE hasn't asked to be a politician, yet she must be suffering. As galling as it must be, her mother owes it to her to release those records and let her poor daughter off the hook.

[kath]

27. FWIW, that video was taken on Monday, March 3, 2 days before she announced her pregnancy.

http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html

It was at a Newsweek conference on Women and Leadership, and she appeared with Gov Janet Napolitano.
Given that she was 36 wks when Trig was born (Apr. 18), she would have been 29 1/2 weeks on the day of that video.

Mighty flexible she was!!

[pnwmom]

31. Thanks. That's very helpful. n/t

[Cronopio]

28. And she stands up pretty quickly after the interview at the end of the clip.

My wife was about the same age as Sarah when she was pregnant with our first, and at seven months her balance was always being thrown off by the baby moving around. She could have never stood up that quickly from a seated position.

[seabeyond]

30. i was ready to let it go and watched this video and no way. other one she bounces up steps in heels

there are certain movement in body that does not happen when preg. seeing the video of her hunched like that made me so no way again

also if you look at the picture the freepers provided for us and when she announced, in a matter of a month and a week she got huge fast.

[pnwmom]

32. It's hard to imagine that anyone who has been through a pregnancy could

imagine her sitting like that at 7 months.

[dorktv]

35. What is the deal with the Amy Winehouse hair?

And Governor Napolitano is none too happy to be stuck next to her. One can easily see that.

[nyccitizen]

38. Um, hate to rain on your parade, but...

The footage of her behind the desk at the beginning (where she's obviously not showing) is stock footage they inserted into the story; new footage of her from after the announcement (with her in the red coat) is later in the story and she can easily be pregnant in that shot and the one where she's on the panel.

[LisaL]

39. The people working for her are quoted saying

they had no idea she was pregnant.
They were surprised.
If she was showing, HTF do you explain it?

[LisaL]

40. The people working for her are quoted saying

they had no idea she was pregnant.
They were surprised.
If she was showing, HTF do you explain it?