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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:11 AM
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Faux News Blogger notices Obama drawing big crowds and big cheers on tax cuts
Ever since I saw that WashPost graphic of Obama's tax plans, I keep thinking if people just vote their economic self-interest, we win in a landslide. I don't know anything about the source, but interesting, and it has lots of links to other sources.

http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/08/31/does-john-mccain-have-a-tax-problem-answer-probably/

August 31st, 2008 9:37 PM Eastern
Does John McCain Have a Tax Problem? Answer: Probably
by Major Garrett

BATTLE CREEK, Michigan — Based on the crowd reaction to recent attacks from Barack Obama and Joe Biden about John McCain’s tax policy, the Republican nominee may have something to worry about.

Obama and Biden drew huge crowds, I saw them myself, in Beaver, Pa. (8,000 people on Friday night), Dublin, Ohio (19,000 people on Saturday night) and here in Battle Creek (17,500 people) tonight.

The crowds roar with approval when Obama and Biden describe their plans for a middle class tax cut and boo loudly at statistics showing how McCain’s continuation of the Bush tax cuts favor the wealthy. Of course, these are partisan Obama crowds. But it would be unwise for anyone seriously backing McCain to dismiss their full-throated roars for Obama-Biden on an issue that historically has favored the GOP nominee.

...

The point of these county portraits is two-fold. One, to show Obama and Biden are traveling to swing territory and drawing huge crowds and undeniable enthusiasm. Two, that the Obama tax message appears to be working in areas where the issue has been a plus for the GOP.

Add to this the mounting evidence that McCain’s TV commercials assailing Obama’s tax policy contain serious distortions, if not out-right lies.

On Aug. 8, FactCheck.org, published this report on a spate of new McCain TV spots on Obama and taxes.

Read it here: www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/more_tax_deceptions.html

That report followed one in July that raised similar concerns about the truthfulness of the McCain attacks on Obama. Read it here: www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_32000_question.html

And today The Washington Post published this blistering editorial that comes as close as any Beltway publication can to using the word “lie” to describe McCain’s criticism of Obama’s tax policies. Read it here:

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083001681.html

The Post editorial specifically mentions a side-by-side analysis of McCain and Obama tax policies by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Here is the link to the center’s updated comparison posted on Aug. 28: www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411750

Both McCain and Obama would cuts taxes, but Obama’s tax cuts would be targeted to the middle class and partially offset by higher taxes on the wealthy (those earning more than $250,000).

But on the stump this weekend, when either Obama or Biden (they both hit the issue) said they would cut taxes for “95 percent of those who earn a pay check,” the crowds in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan shouted their approval.

The tax debate has just begun and McCain is losing credibility among the non-partisan bean counters and the larger media organizations that have done their own compare and contrast exercises.

With more than two months to go, the Obama camp will have plenty of time to script TV ads accusing McCain of distortions. For all these reasons, McCain may have more to worry about on the tax front than any Republican presidential candidate in a generation.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:15 AM
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1. I was there in Battle Creek tonight. He did get a huge cheer when he offered up his middle class tax
cut promise. And yes, McCain got boos for his pro-rich tax plan.

I'm glad the media noticed.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:18 AM
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2. I think the minute after Obama's acceptance speech......
The entire corporate world got worried.

At some point, they might have to "work" with him, because there is no way that one can break all historical records about everything dealing with politics and not win. The most money raised, the most innovative campaign, the most viewed acceptance speech in history live and on television, etc., etc., etc. One doesn't break all of those records to only lose. McCain is up shit's creek.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:21 AM
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4. and Obama is doing a clearer job than most Dems of explaining his tax policies
so people don't just fall for the "tax and spend liberal!!!" crap.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:23 AM
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5. Yes, it's making all the difference...
he's an extremely effective communicator.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:24 AM
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6. notice they do that
"tax and spend liberal" every 4 years.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:25 AM
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7. someone posted here - better than "borrow and bankrupt". nt
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:26 AM
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11. how true?
does anyone remember when bill clinton spoke at the 2004 convention? he asked "do you want to keep borrowing money from japan and china"?
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:26 AM
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9. Yeah, except the tax and spend liberals are the ones always cleaning up after Republican messes
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:20 AM
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3. K and R and Bookmarked.
Very interesting, thanks.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:26 AM
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8. Does anyone have the side-by-side graphic of McCain vs Obama tax plans?
It consisted of two columns of descending income groups and their relative tax increases or decreases under the two plans.

It's the kind of visual I'd love to see plastered on billboards and in print and electronic media ads.

Thanks in advance.

NYC_SKP
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:29 AM
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13. From Wash Post - we can't post this thing enough and I want it on handouts at rallies!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:37 AM
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16. THANKS!!! everyone needs to download this, print it, email it....
Thanks, JoeIsOneOfUs...

I don't think I've even ever met anyone who would pay more under Obama ($600,000/yr).

How many Americans have ever met someone in that bracket?

If only every voter in every swing state had a copy....

:hi:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:26 AM
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10. Faux news, it's time to start worrying.
You're gonna be out of business in the very near future.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:29 AM
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12. There was a poll posted here recently..
that showed 40% of people thought Obama would raise their taxes. We need to continue to hit hard on this front.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:30 AM
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14. we need to keep this stuff on the front of DU. nt
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:33 AM
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15. K & R
This is great stuff.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:40 AM
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18. I almost didn't open the link given the source, but it's good stuff. nt
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:38 AM
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17. PS: K & R nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:17 PM
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19. kick for today. nt
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:20 PM
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20. Good to see this.
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