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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:53 AM
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Poll question: Will Gustav benefit McCain or Obama?
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 AM by aaroh
On the one hand Gustav is a distraction to the GOP convention taking away valuable media coverage. But on the other hand it looks like McCain is pivoting to score political points with Gustav. This is a tough one, it can go either way or no way.
Will Gustav benefit McCain or Obama in the polls?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 AM
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1. McCain can't gain more from this than Obama unless he's in a very very lucky position.
His convention is screwn. He can't celebrate. That's a big minus. Plus, he picked Palin, and that will look very stupid after the somber mood of examining the aftermath of Gustav.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 AM
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4. McCain could score points if he pulls it off right.
At this point I can only hope people see through his bull shit.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 AM
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2. A rather sick poll.
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:58 AM
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6. I agree. nt
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 AM
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3. I'm sure Obama will help out but he'll probably be low key about it
so it won't help counteract the fucking attention whoring the GOPs definitely gonna wallow in with their charity drive.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:58 AM
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5. I think, if anything, it's helpful to their campaign
They're already spinning it as something that they will sacrifice the convention for in order to focus on the "crisis", which is bullshit, but effective.

Also, it means that the they're off the hook in trying to pull off anything impressive.

And off the hook in terms of putting forward anything that looks like planks for a substantial platform, as they have none.
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:03 AM
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7. Guess who won't be at the Convention
Photos, speeches, news clips......
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:06 AM
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8. Won't NOLA residents remember Katrina at all?
And Bush and McCain yukking it up with birthday cake on the tarmac? They're not going to see through this? Get one victim angry at McCain for his actions during Katrina and now his photo-ops with Gustav, and it's going to blow up in McCain's face.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:07 AM
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9. Gustav will remind people of Katrina ...
... and will make it more difficult for McCain to showcase a "new" Republican Party.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:08 AM
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10. Get Obama down there doing physical work and he'll cinch the election.
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:21 AM
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12. They already gave Bush
a chance to act like a meteorologist, and McCain a chance to pretend like he was the president. Wait till they bring him down their waist-deep in water to receive a little white puppy dog from a bedroom window.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:17 AM
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11. Gustav may be a game changer
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:21 AM by aaroh
depending on how much politics gets played. Bush's popularity soared when he played politics with the 9/11 issue. Unfortunately McCain may exploit Gustav to win the election. In times of crisis comes opportunity and the republicans are notorious when it comes to exploiting human fear for political advancement....as noted in The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:23 AM
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14. A Gustav tragedy will not be able to rescue McSame & Token
even if Wolf Ticket Blitzer used your exact language earlier today, while he was
"doing" propaganda for the McCain campaign. Sorry.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:23 AM
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13. Somehow a blow job always seems to favor Republicans.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:24 AM
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15. I'll admit the St. Paul men's rooms are looking very lonely since they've cancelled...
Bad joke I know... but for a good cause.
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rabbits4love Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:25 AM
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16. neither id hope ?
i think its pretty sad that mccain planned running to the gulf the instant it was made clear the storm would be coming that way (days ago). always thinking ahead for a photo op , those republicans...

im not sure exactly how canceling the RNC helps people in the path of the storm either... but whatever they think makes them look better...

we all know its really just an excuse to ditch George and Dick from speaking....
nothing better than the incumbent party not having the incumbent speak at the convention...
anybody know if thats happened before ? a sitting president not speak or be at his partys convention for his replacement?
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:26 AM
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17. how about you ask the RIGHT question: who's it going to hurt?
I could give a fuck about the political spoils from this disaster while people's homes, lives, livelihoods, and pets are in danger.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 AM
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19. Thank you.
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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:29 AM
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18. Gustav is going to kill a lot of people just like Katrina.
To say that it's going to help anyone is a disgusting thing to say.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:16 AM
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21. I hope both parties join together to help those affected by this hurricane. n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:51 AM
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20. It will remind people of Katrina and the epic incompetence and disregard.
That hurts the GOP and this administration in a big way.

Obama will do the right thing and organize assistance without burdening the locals with the security required with his presence; McBush will make it a photo-op.
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