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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:55 AM
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If McCain had chosen RON PAUL??
Would it have been a better pick? I think so. Still a losing ticket, but a much better one than his new secretary, what's her name.... Moneypenny?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 AM
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1. A lot of DUers rather like that bigot.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 AM
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2. So do a lot of Republicans and Independents
A hekufa lot more than like Miss Moneypenny.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:03 AM
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7. I suspect they don't realize his full views or they wouldn't /nt
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rabbits4love Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:09 AM
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12. exactly
its true that we do share some of the same issues/values... when it comes to protecting and enforcing the constitution...
but beyond that ...we share absolutely nothing...

if they had it their way, wed all be left to starve and die on our own with no help from the government for anything whatsoever...
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:08 AM
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16. I like his position on the drug war and that's about it
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:17 AM
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22. You'd probably like his foreign policy views as well
You don't get more anti-Iraq War than with Ron Paul. He's also a heavy critic of the Bush administration on many issues, especially on reckless spending increasing the national debt.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:16 PM
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24. No his foreign policy is fucking crazy
He wants to leave the UN and return to isolationism. We may agree about pulling out of Iraq but not for the same reasons.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:50 AM
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19. Sweeping Generalization.
Is it like him or like SOME of the things he says? I agree with him on Iraq and a few other points I disagree with him on most everything, I do enjoy seeing him poke the Republican party in the ribs on a regular basis.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:04 AM
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20. Ron Paul supporters noted. Thanks.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:20 AM
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23. Agreed.
It was clear that he should have won the Republican Party's nomination if it had been an even, unbiased fight. FOX News and the Republican Party decided to throw him under the bus because he refused to back the Iraq War and he actually made great sense stating his views and excoriating his opponents. They labeled him a 9/11-truther just because he said that they should read the 9/11 Commission Report to realize that we can't just go around starting wars like the Iraq War and not have any backlash.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 AM
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3. I don't know about a better pick, but it would have been just as crazy.
McCain has showed us that anything is possible when you're a thoughtless power-hungry prick.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:02 AM
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6. I tend to think it would have accomplished the same thing
Only it would string along the independents and the libertarians instead of the evangelicals. I wonder if they might be able to replace that contingent with these three other groups. After all, the fundies are pesky to deal with.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:00 AM
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4. Liberman would of been best. 1/2 the convention would of walked out on him.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:04 AM
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8. but but but they would win MASSACHUSETTS!!! OMFG!!
heh :P
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:01 AM
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5. Ron Paul would not have accepted because of his position on the war /nt
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:05 AM
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9. Ron Paul would have refused.
He hates McCain and for all his crazy ideas, I'm pretty confident in his not selling out his principles since being McCain's VP actually entails selling McCain's "plans" and positions.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:24 AM
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18. I hope so, and perhaps that's how McCain got to Palin
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:24 AM by Cronus Protagonist
A-O on his short list probably already refused, so he got lucky right before he had to ask Pawlenty or Ron Paul,

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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:16 AM
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21. Paul was the most principled man in the race in the primaries, either side
Yeah, he would have turned him down. He still hasn't endorsed McCain yet and if you listen to his message, McCain is even worse for this country than Obama. Ron Paul tells his supporters not to fall for McCain's BS on earmarks, because McCain would just transfer the spending power from the legislative to the executive branch.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:07 AM
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10. Ron Paul to McGrumpy::: FUCK YOU....get fuckin LOST
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rabbits4love Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:08 AM
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11. i agree with the two above me
he never would have taken it.

if he had though, it probably would have pissed off another segment of the republicans.

It would have been nice if Bob Barr and him would have ran together on the Lib ticket.. nice in the sense of all the disaffected republicans going to vote for them...
woulda put the nader effect to shame
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:09 AM
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13. Would have scared the shit out of me
But he made a fool out of McCain at the debates
and I have that video.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:18 AM
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14. Ron Paul would have to pretend to agree with McCain
on the Iraq war, civil liberties, immigration, and pretty much every other core principle that he holds (right or wrong). I just don't see Paul keeping his mouth shut about how stupid the war is.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:06 AM
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15. Paul would have said no.
He's got a counter rally going in MN. The Paulis view McCain as bought and sold by
just about everybody with enough money.

But, yes, it would have been better than this.

She's truly a nut.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:10 AM
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17. Ron Paul would have publicly declined the invitation n/t
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:22 PM
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25. Ron Paul would have said no. Cmon, he is nuts but Dennis Kucinich is one of his closest friends.
And like Kucinich, he enjoys and believes in his position as an outsider.
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