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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:09 AM
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NYT: Clinton said to be "galled" by Palin; advisers see greater role for her
McCain’s Pick May Foster Bigger Campaign Role for Clinton
By PATRICK HEALY
Published: August 31, 2008

ST. PAUL — Advisers to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said on Sunday that Senator John McCain’s selection of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska as his running mate would lead to a greater role for Mrs. Clinton as she campaigned this fall on behalf of her former rival, Senator Barack Obama.

Mrs. Clinton’s friends said she was galled that Ms. Palin might try to capitalize on a movement that Mrs. Clinton, of New York, built among women in the primaries. And Democrats used strong words on Sunday to rebut the notion: Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts said that women would not be “seduced” by the Republican ticket, and Guy Cecil, the former political director of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, said it was “insulting” for Republicans to compare Ms. Palin to Mrs. Clinton.

Nevertheless, Clinton advisers said they expected that a bloc of her female supporters would give Mr. McCain a second look because of Ms. Palin, and that Mrs. Clinton was probably Mr. Obama’s best weapon in response. But asked if the Palin pick would lead to a new political marriage between Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton, a senior Clinton adviser, Ann Lewis, said: “Not a political marriage. She is not on the ticket. Senator Obama chose Joe Biden as his running mate. Hillary will do what she can to help.”

Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said they expected that in light of the Palin selection, she would focus her efforts especially on working women — middle- and working-class, married and single — in swing states where she ran strong, like Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Obama’s advisers sharply disputed the argument that Clinton supporters might be drawn to Ms. Palin on the basis of sex, given that Ms. Palin opposes abortion rights and other commonly held positions for Democrats. But Clinton advisers presented a more nuanced view, saying that some of her supporters — they could not specify how many — could be open to the McCain-Palin ticket depending on how Ms. Palin performed and whether she appeared to be a forceful, sincere advocate for the concerns of working women, their families and for policies that would help them.

...Mr. Cecil said the Palin pick would most likely increase the number of Mrs. Clinton’s appearances on the campaign trail, on television and at fund-raisers on behalf of the Democratic ticket. He added that Mrs. Clinton would probably spend “a good deal of time in battleground states, particularly in the suburbs where the race is often won and lost.”

Obama advisers said they had not settled on the number of days that Mrs. Clinton would campaign for the ticket. She has at least one event next week, they said, adding that all indications from the Clinton camp — with which, before the Democrats’ convention last week, post-primary relations were still bumpy — were helpful and positive.

“She has been extraordinarily generous and cooperative,” Mr. Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod, said of Mrs. Clinton. “Gender politics aside, everything that Hillary has fought for is on the ballot. Palin may add some gender diversity to their ticket, but she doesn’t add any philosophical diversity. Hillary is a huge asset for us, and we want her out there, though we would have wanted her out there regardless of Palin.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/us/politics/01clinton.html?ref=us



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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 AM
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1. K&R
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 AM
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2. I hope she campaigns for Obama almost every day between now and...
...Election Day.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:16 AM
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5. Me too! This could really be a way for Hillary to get those that opposed her to fall in love
with her! She could easily become my hero if she starts kicking Palin's ass!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:21 AM
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12. Palin or not...
If Hillary becomes a strong campaigner for Obama, I will gladly support her in 2016 (I'm assuming Joe won't run at the age of 72).
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 AM
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3. Awesome!
I wouldn't want to piss off Hillary. And when the person who is pissing her off has the mentality of a Jr. High cheerleader, Hillary must be seeing RED! This could be interesting.

Not to mention the fact that if McCain wins and Palin becomes VP then she might beat Hillary to the top spot. There is no way in HELL Hillary will allow that shit!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:16 AM
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4. She needs to do a couple of TV ads.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:21 AM
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6. Good. I hope she is real pissed off...and shows them what the law of unforeseen
consequences is all about...
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:41 AM
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20. Oh, me too. I knew Hillary would NEVER let that Palin capitalize on her hard work.
No way, no how... quite literally. Palin will regret her pandering shout-out to Hillary and Geraldine.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:28 AM
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7. No surprise
This airhead comparing herself to HRC is like a pile of dog crap comparing itself to Mount McKinley.

Hillary is not a person you want righteously pissed off against you. Bye bye, Sarah.
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:28 AM
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8. *Rubs Hands Together*
Get 'im Hillary!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:30 AM
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9. Hillary, we're ALL galled. You have my blessings to attack as you see fit.
I hope you rip her to shreds and send her home to Alaska crying for her mommy.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:34 AM
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10. K + R
And to think some people called Hillary Clinton a MONSTER.

Now she is responsible for the women's voting bloc of the Obama/Biden Campaign.

A tad ironic, I must say.




However. Senator Clinton, make Palin sorry she ever uttered your name. You didn't do the hard work so that the 1984 Ms. Alaska runner-up could steal the fruits of your labors.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:07 AM
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11. I knew this would be her reaction -- good for Hillary
I hope she absolutely plows them over.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:25 AM
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13. That John McCain's some kind of master strategist
Just one more reason why this choice will backfire.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:32 AM
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14. let them give McINSANE a second look
all the better because they will then see that him and his half-witted pick are against EVERYTHING that Hillary stands for.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:39 AM
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15. i mean seriously
Didn't anybody over 4 years old know how much this would piss of the Clintons. And I don't blame them.

I don't know how many clinton supporters that McCain is going to get when Hillary is campaigning about how embarassing McCain's pick is.

The McCain camp didn't see this coming?
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:12 AM
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23. I didn't get it to begin with
the republican party spent FIFTEEN FREAKIN YEARS smearing Hill in every possible way, with the most spurious nonsense. Heck, there is the primary campaign clip where some old hag says to McCain "so, how do we beat the bwitch" and he just CHUCKLED. You think for ONE second Obama would have just chucked if someone in his crowd refered to Hill as a bwitch?

FIFTEEN years of faux news making a living, almost literally, of scapgoating and targeting Hill, and somehow they ended up being her biggest ally.

It NEVER made sense.

Palin is a whole nother level - Hill has spent 15 years working for this, won a senate seat in New York, ran a fantastic 50 state campaign and raised millions and millions - only to see Palin given the shot based on what people here have accurated termed the most egregious (sp) case of affirmative action in history.

I would have thought Hill and other people would have been offended by the Rs trying to ride her coattails to begin with. If this is what shocks them back to reality, great.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:44 AM
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16. This could be one of the upsides of McCain picking Palin
If Clinton gets out there she can best persuade women in terms of Palin's experience and stances on the issues versus Obama.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:52 AM
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17. Exactly.
McCain has underestimated most women. In particular, I think he has underestimated Senator Clinton. That is a serious error in judgement.
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:36 AM
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18. Now he's done it!
He's done gone and made the Clintons mad.
Wouldn't want them in highly pissed mode at me.
When they take to the stump, their speeches will make Palin
look like she's in speech class.
The media said this was a game changer. I don't think they meant this!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:41 AM
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19. This mission should Hillary choose to accept it is tailor-made for her.
McBush/HalfBakedAlaska are spewing so much bullshit now, the Democrats have their work cut out for them.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:11 AM
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21. Since the convention
the Clintons have redeemed themselves in my eyes. Actually even before I had warmed up to Hillary.

I hope she does what she can to tell people that Palin is a fraud. I hope she is appointed to a cabinet position in an Obama administration.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:14 AM
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22. I believe McCain's pick of Palin trivializes Hillary's hard work. I'd be pissed too. n/t
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:17 AM
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24. Did the idiots on the McCain camp really not think of this before?
I hope both Clintons demolish her.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:25 AM
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25. McCain has awakened the "beast".
My use of "beast" is not meant to be taken as an insult to Hillary.
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Discerning Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:27 AM
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26. No Clinton story has sourrces that are not anonymous
"advisers", we are told, without names being provided.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:31 AM
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27. Someone other than Obama and Biden needs to take Palin down
and Hillary is uniquely qualified. Hillary didn't break ceilings to let fundie nutjobs hop through and overturn all that she's worked for.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:33 AM
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28. She should be galled...
I was galled for her. Women are not interchangeable, and the woman the McCain camp tried to exchange her for is just a joke, especially compared to Hillary.

Good for her!
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:55 AM
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29. Palin has a lot of fucking nerve.
Insinuating that she was "taking over" the "movement" from Hillary Clinton...especially the business in the media about how Joe Biden should "go easy" on Palin in the debate. Although I did not support Hillary in the primary, I was always impressed by her in the debates. Palin sets women back.
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