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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:45 AM
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GET READY TO RAPTURE!!!!! aka convincing a former Hillary supporter
My brother and sister-in-law were both supporters of Hillary (my brothers a surgeon who actually believes we now need universal healthcare).

Anyway, they are logical, intelligent people and registered 'Independents' who were disappointed that Hillary didn't get the nomination and not convinced that Obama would stand firm for all the things Hillary would fight for.

Well, thanks to the worthless MSM reporting on "moose burgers" and nothing else, I had to rely on other options for information. Well, her radical stand on abortion (pro-rapist rights, as someone on Huffington described it) is appalling and not in line with most medical professionals. Her stand on creationism being taught in science class makes anyone in a science based profession cringe but, the true tipping point to get them to no longer want to write in Hillary and support Obama was this email I sent them:


GET READY TO RAPTURE
Can’t wait for her to be one “suspicious mole” away from the nuke button...


At Church with Palin
Posted on August 31, 2008 by Richard Bartholomew

Various reporters and bloggers have been delving into Sarah Palin’s religious affiliations and backgrounds. From Harper’s:
Since becoming governor in 2006, Palin has attended the Juneau Christian Center, where Mike Rose serves as senior pastor. Her previous pastor was David Pepper of the Church on the Rock in Palin’s hometown of Wasilla — a church that “was kind of a foundation for her.”
Harper’s notes that Rose is a Creationist who believes that evolutionary biologists are of the opinion that humans are descended from chimpanzees, and that “these are the last days”. He also has links with CUFI. Pepper, meanwhile, rails against the ACLU and warns that “Judgement Day is coming”. However, finding a few quotes along these lines in a conservative evangelical church is hardly a shocking revelation, and such themes do not appear to be major obsessions of the two pastors.


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A Pentecostal in the White House? Some thoughts on Palin’s religious journey
Published
by
Hugo Schwyzer
on August 30, 2008
in Christianity and Politics
.
On another note, Sarah Palin seems to have had an interesting spiritual journey. Born and baptized a Catholic, in her teens and young adulthood she attended an Assemblies of God church. (No word whether she has been baptized twice; AG doesn’t recognize infant baptism.) It’s unclear, according to this Christianity Today article, exactly what Palin’s theology is these days.
The Assemblies of God is one of the world’s largest Pentecostal denominations. If elected as vice-president, Palin would go farther in American politics than any previous leader with Pentecostal roots. (So far, former Attorney General John Ashcroft holds the distinction of being America’s highest-ranking charismatic.) It’s worth noting that Pentecostalism goes a long way towards explaining Palin’s balancing of socially conservative views with a strong belief in women’s capacity to lead. Like most Pentecostal denominations, going all the way back to the Azusa Revival a century ago, the Assemblies of God ordains women as pastors. Palin, born a Catholic, left a denomination that denied pastoral authority to women in order to join one that embraced women as leaders — while still holding to traditional social views on issues like “life” and sexuality. Unlike among the Southern Baptists or conservative Calvinists, it’s not unusual in Pentecostal circles to find women who are both church leaders and mothers of young children. Palin belongs, it seems, to that tradition.
The press simply calls her an “evangelical.” But that’s far too broad a term, as we all know. Given that Palin seems to have enormous credibility with Christian conservatives, it’s worth asking some questions about her theological views. After all, while many Pentecostals reject superficial “end times” millenarianism, others — including many affiliated with AG, a denomination to which my third wife belonged and with which I am very familiar — are anxiously awaiting the Rapture and the various stages of Tribulation. Someone who anticipates the imminent end of the world is, I think we can agree, a dangerous person to have one heartbeat from the presidency.

For all his myriad failings, there’s no evidence that George W. Bush ever held millenarian, apocalyptic views. I am prepared to regard faith as an essentially private concern, save when it leads to contempt for the responsibility to care for the earth for generations to come.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:49 AM
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1. Do we need someone with their finger on the button
who believes they can "hasten" the Rapture simply by pushing it?
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:51 AM
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2. EXACTLY! And knowing McSame's age and medical hx....
makes this all the more relevant.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:54 AM
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3. Terrifying. The Catholic repubs will go mad.
If the Catholics were a vote, and some were Repubs. They just switched to the Dem side.
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:55 AM
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4. So powerful, thank you
Now I know why I can't get my sewing done. I can't get away from such as you. Sharing experiences here is wonderful. ...Mrs Moose
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:00 AM
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5. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:37 AM
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7. Thank you.
We have been on here since they started , but we both got very ill with heart problems and dropped off for a few years. Now we are back and I just can't get my sewing done, like a good old Gramma should be doing instead of trying to learn from all you good people with great minds to boot. I appreciate you all letting us vent and speak our thoughts. Mrs. Moose
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:06 AM
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6. Just have them google "Domininist"
and they'll shit their pants. :D
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:27 PM
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8. Scares the hell out of any thinking person. nt
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