BREAKING NEWS-Sarah's teenage daughter pregnant NOW!

[jenmito]

They just announced it on FAUX! They said she WILL marry the father. NOW how do you feel about the "baby story"?

[DarthDem]

1. Mo-Fo-Ing Unreal

Worst. Campaign. Ever.

:rofl: :rofl:

[jenmito]

4. I guess McCain didn't vet her! Do you really think he would've picked a conservative woman who

had a pregnant, unwed daughter?! :rofl:

[DarthDem]

39. No. I Do Not.

Not even this senile jackass is that insane. And I stress the "not even" part.

[jenmito]

48. One of his top liars, Carly Fiorina, claims he DID know. Yeah, right...

She said he knew but it's a "family matter." Oh-but she wants to tell OTHER pregnant women/girls what to do with THEIR bodies?

[DarthDem]

40. Dupe, Sorry n/t

[trueblue2007]

62. McCain is a moron

I just know that he didn't know about this. Call it a gut feeling. McCain's camp has to bee REELING over this coming out!!!

My "fundie" sister is gonna be sooooooooooooooooooooo upset over this. Palin lied by omission.

[glancingthefuture]

2. The two are unrelated.

[Orangepeel]

8. If the daughter is pregnant now, she didn't have a baby 4 months ago.n/t

[jenmito]

21. She could've had a baby 4 1/2 months ago and then gotten pregnant again right away.

:shrug:

[glancingthefuture]

30. you need to educate yourself on the facts of life. But having

said that. I said the two are unrelated.

[kestrel91316]

36. No, you do. While rare, it IS possible for a new mother to get

pregnant again right away. Especially if she's in her most fertile years.

[EFerrari]

41. Except they say she's at five months.

[TankLV]

45. AHA! Trolls above BUSTED - again...

"Facts" are soooo "inconvenient" for them..

and makes our jobe just too fucking EASY...

[TankLV]

46. dupe post

[jenmito]

53. They SAY she's 5 months pregnant. They also said Palin was always against the "bridge to

nowhere." Why wouldn't they lie about how many months pregnant she is to avoid any scandal?

[EFerrari]

59. Because having an 11 month pregnancy might look funny?

They're Republicans and will lie about anything.

[kath]

55. And we trust these people because they are good Christians and they never lie.

That ol' Commandment about not bearing false witness is the one that the fundie crowd is MOST consistent about following.

[catgirl]

56. I guess we'll see if she does have the baby in December

Just think, this latest news could have been buried if the other theory hadn't
come up over and over again on the blogs.

[jenmito]

69. Hopefully we won't have to find out because Obama would've won the election by then.

And she can have her baby without our knowledge.

[glancingthefuture]

64. yes, I just read that. That would

by my calculation ---put her pregnant again almost immediately after birth.

[AllieB]

92. That happened to my mother. My sisters are 11 months apart.

:-)

[Kahuna]

87. What else would they say? Does she look five months to you? nt

[kestrel91316]

94. You believe them??

[AZ Criminal JD]

83. Please re-take your junior high health class

[kestrel91316]

93. You mean my veterinary school theriogenology class, don't you?

I know a bit more about ALL types of mammalian reproduction than you.

[jenmito]

51. No I don't. Are you saying Palin wouldn't lie about how many months pregnant her child is just

to make it sound impossible that she could've had the first child? If she's any less than 5 months pregnant, it IS possible for her to be pregnant again.

[gateley]

3. Here's what MSNBC is reporting:

From NBC's Mark Murray
Reuters: "The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said. 'We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us,' the Palins' statement said. 'Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support,' the Palins said."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/01/1318541.aspx

[jenmito]

7. Don't they mean they've been blessed with FOUR wonderful children and one grandchild?

Jeez!

[rainbow4321]

26. No, they admitted it cuz pictures were surfacing of a pregnant Bristol

Like the one on McCain's daughter's website of Bristol's profile where she is huge. Even that large black frock couldn't hide it.

[LisaL]

52. I think it's called a "baby doll dress."

She also held the baby Trig and a blanket at times to cover up her stomach area. But at some photos you could see she was big at the stomach area.

[rug]

5. Impossible. She already gave birth April 18.

I read it right here.

[jenmito]

13. She's "about 5 months pregnant." This could be her 2nd pregnancy.

If she's really 4 months pregnant, it's possible.

[rug]

23. Sure it is.

[nyccitizen]

44. Oh Good Lord...

She's 5 months pregnant. Hey, maybe she conceived her second child in the delivery room!

Some DUers will never be satisfied.

[glancingthefuture]

68. It makes DU and the posters look desperate and silly when

such claims are made

[jenmito]

76. I'D say it makes the PALIN family look desperate and silly, but if you want to take

their word for it, fine by me. :shrug:

[glancingthefuture]

78. This teenage family is going to have enough problems without

anyone creating rumors.

Sarah Paylin put out a statement --to me she will be supporting the new family. That is what these kids need at this time (and kids they are).

[jenmito]

85. The "rumors" started in Alaska...

not here. This directly contradicts Palin's "pro-family values" which include abstinence-only sex-education.

[glancingthefuture]

90. Lame -as you know--speading them is contributes.

[jenmito]

95. It's not lame to try to get the facts.

[jenmito]

74. So you know for a fact that she's not 4 1/2 months pregnant?

I have no idea what makes you say some DUers will never be satisfied. I never posted on any of those other "baby" threads. :eyes:

[ecstatic]

88. getting pregnant after giving birth is a very common occurrence

http://ezinearticles.com/?Getting-Pregnant-After-Giving-Birth---How-To-Avoid-Getting-Pregnant-After-Birth!&id=1063984

[bklyncowgirl]

6. Guess she didn't take the purity pledge, whoops. nt

[NYC Liberal]

9. They claim McCain knew WHEN he selected her!

:rofl:

Get REAL!

Damage control mode, stat!

[Erin Elizabeth]

14. He didn't even know how to pronounce her last name

when they selected her. He didn't know shit about her, LOL.

[Gore1FL]

73. Itr could be true

Maybe he's the dad!

[JCMach1]

10. Could this be a second child with the same daughter?

The timing is tight, but not impossible...

[quercus palustris]

16. That's what I think. I think they tried to cover up the first one

and couldn't for the second. I know people who are that close. Heck my sister and I are only 12 months apart...

[KoKo]

71. I think so, too. n/t

[Kittycat]

11. I feel that the mother is an irresponsible waste.

Not only did she risk the life of Trig, she's anti-sex education (and undoubtedly didn't put her daughter on BC or teach her about condom use) - and this is the wonderful, responsible parent that we're supposed to fall in love with? I'd have more concern if she wasn't busy shoving her values down my throat.

[Erin Elizabeth]

12. Maybe I'm just missing something.

I don't get why this is big news. A lot of parents have dealt with their teens having pre-marital sex and even getting pregnant. It seems like she'll just get praise for having a daughter who didn't have an abortion. :eyes:

And sympathy points, as well.

Shrug.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

15. Family Values would indicate...

That if you have a four-month-old special needs baby and a seventeen-year-old pregnant daughter, perhaps your focus should be on your family and not on a all-but-certain defeat in an election.

[Erin Elizabeth]

34. I can see that coming out as a reaction.

Especially from the less fundy types. And as was pointed out on another thread, independents who just feel this is too much drama.

[TexasLady]

65. your post is DEAD ON. n/t

[NYC Liberal]

17. It's big news because this could piss off the fundies

The very people they were trying to court. Mostly because they weren't married, since that seems to be the big thing they care about.

Of course, they may very well be hypocrites and croon about how "brave" she is, etc. etc. when everyone here KNOWS what their reaction would be if it was Obama's 17 year old daughter.

[jenmito]

18. You're missing the BIG point that Sarah Palin is against teaching sex-ed. and for "teaching"

abstinence only. "Family values" in HER eyes means not having sex until marriage, obviously.

[IndianaGreen]

19. This woman you feel empathy for wants to ban abortions for rape and incest

She gets nothing but scorn from me, as does her fundie family.

[Erin Elizabeth]

31. NOWHERE did I say I felt empathy for her. I do not feel empathy

for her. I feel SCORN for her. She's ridiculous.

I said I can see OTHER PEOPLE giving her sympathy points.

[MiniMe]

25. She is a big supporter of abstinence only education

Guess it didn't work.

[Erin Elizabeth]

35. It usually doesn't.

Has a high failure rate and now her teen daughter is a national example of that.

[EndElectoral]

20. So much for Abstinence? Maybe Palin should be for contraception!

If this was a Democrat te Repubs would say maybe the mother should have been around more to watch over her daughter so this didn't happen. What kind of family values was her daughter taught? Obviously, the sex was unprotected. Does she have any STD's?

And the religious Right wing nuts would probably say for a mother who's minor daughter got pregnant probably that God's vengeance is to give that mtoher a baby with Down's Syndrome.

This group cannot run this country any longer.

If this woman had taught her daughter about contraception instead of licing in denial, this girl may not have had to make this unfortunate decision, and now way can she get an abortion because it mgiht ruin her mother's political future.

Whew. Ugly.

[NotThisTime]

22. you're joking right? They admitted it?

[jenmito]

28. They admitted that she's pregnant NOW, yes. Who knows what they would've done if

her mother hadn't been in the national spotlight-maybe taken her out of school for months on end with an "illness" and then announce that SARAH had another baby?

[pdxmom]

24. Holy Jamie Lynn Spears, Batman!!! N/T

[TexasLady]

66. lol n/t

[underpants]

27. WORST.DECISION.EVER

[jenmito]

33. And for the McCain camp to claim they KNEW about this before they chose Sarah to be his VP?

Yeah, right. McCain's just vetting her NOW! Oops-too late.

[krawhitham]

29. Anybody find it odd that Palin felt the need to respond to babygate by

outed her 16 year old kid?

[vanderBeth]

32. There goes the "I'm qualified to VP because I'm a good mother"

[Erin Elizabeth]

37. That is pretty gross.

Did this story come from Palin herself? Well, I guess she had to confirm it, huh?

Yuck.

[glancingthefuture]

38. Sen. Obama rightfully complained of absent fathers. But

Sarah has announced that her daughter will marry. End of story.


PS. I do not think all teen age women -or men-should marry when in these circumstances. But it is a family affair.

[jenmito]

43. It's not "End of story." This raises questions about Palin's "abstinence only" method of

education and birth control. The party of "family values" is against sex before marriage AND against birth control. What does this say about Palin as a mother?

[glancingthefuture]

79. yes, it does. Lets talk of that rather than rumors (or creating vile rumors),

[TankLV]

42. I know the repukes can't spell potato, but can they spell "hypocrite"?

This is a BEAUTIFUL illustration of it in ACTION...

"Vote REPUKE - do as we tell you, not as we DO..."

[glancingthefuture]

47. Sarah has put out a lovely statement about the situation here: I

hope the new family-to-be will have the support that teen=agers need at this time.




Palin says her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant
Reuters
September 1, 2008

ST. PAUL, Minnesota: The 17-year-old daughter of the Republican vice-presidential candidate, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, is pregnant, Palin said Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Senator John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision to keep the baby on her own, McCain aides said.

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," the Palins'statement said.

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support," the Palins said...............


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/01/america/daughter.php

[LisaL]

49. How old is the father?

What is the age of consent in Alaska?

[glancingthefuture]

50. i have not read anything about those issues.

[IndianaGreen]

54. Bristol's "choice," according to McCain campaign

A choice that McCain/Palin want to reduce to women having the baby, whether they want to or not, even in cases of rape or incest.

For all I know, Bristol was pressured by her crazy parents to keep the kid.

[glancingthefuture]

60. It used to be that only the RW would such vile innuendos!!

[StevieM]

91. GTF, you're wasting your time with many of these posters--they just want blood at all costs. And

they don't even have the luxury of claiming partisan warfare, since this is nothing compared to the things they said about Hillary Clinton.

BTW....I've enjoyed your posts. It's nice to have a new poster on DU who I seem to agree with. We lost a lot of good members during the course of the campaign. Maybe sanity will return when George Bush departs.

Or maybe not.

Steve

[catgirl]

67. And I wonder if they pressured Bristol and the father to get married (nt)

[kwolf68]

61. A lovely statement

bullshit. It exposes the fact her vision of abstinence only, sex until marriage, anti choice does NOT FUCKING WORK.

Now she's stuck with a pregnant daughter.

Im sure she' really HAPPY her high school daughter is knocked up, but a lot of us DONT WANT that FOR OUR daughters, esepcially if OUR daughters dont want it for THEMSELVES. This is why we support sex education programs, we support a women's right to choose (control their own fucking body).

This lady would put my girl in the exact same position, forcing onto her a rigid fanatical right-wing viewpoint that DOES NOT WORK.

[PolNewf]

57. Score another one for abstinence only sex ed.

In the press release they state they are “proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby", this is funny coming from people that believe she shouldn't have a choice.

[mvd]

63. Good point

Not every 17-year old has the priveledge of being a VP nominee's daughter.

[catgirl]

58. Interesting that she would accept a V.P. slot given the situation

She has a special needs baby, and her 17 year old daughter is about to give birth. At least
as Gov., she would be nearby.

[LostInAnomie]

70. Amazing that she is just pregnant enough to dispel the rumors.

"Around" 5 months.

Does anyone have any pictures of her "showing"?

[Kahuna]

72. Uh uh!!! Get out!

:wow:

[Meshuga]

75. I feel it is a distraction that the McCain camp is welcoming

The Obama campaign has not biten the bait like the babygate crowd here. And that is good news. But the McCain campaign is going to try to use this against Obama by proxy since it takes away the focus from McCain who is a candidate with nothing to offer but smear.

[PolNewf]

77. I disagree

This is a glaring example of McCain's lack of judgement, the more coverage of crazy Yup Yup Palin the better. This has the real potential to make McCain a joke.

It may excite his base but we are already excited, and his base has shrunk.

[uberllama42]

80. I'm only more sure that Trig is not her son

She must have conceived this child within days of Trig's birth. Probably a week or so before.

I still say we shouldn't touch this. Let the Religious Right crucify them over this, because they are hypocrites. We don't have to go anywhere near it.

[jenmito]

84. I'm not so sure. Claiming she's 5 months pregnant would "prove" Trig is not her son...

which could very possibly be a reason for LYING about her being "ABOUT 5 months pregnant." It COULD be true that she is actually 4 or 4 1/2 months pregnant, making it possible that Trig IS the daughter's son.

[marlakay]

86. some woman on the radio was wondering if

she will "lose" the baby in dec and this is all to hide the truth...

[jenmito]

97. Hmmm...sad but fair question...

I don't put ANYTHING past the Repubs.

[gemlake]

81. This is why the Freepers were pushing Grandmagate

As soon as the Palin announcement came out, there was a rumor that her 17 year old daughter was pregnant. Then suddenly the attention shifted. A few posters started going on about Grandmagate, a wild story about a fake pregnancy. That exploded and the original rumor was buried.

When someone finally posted a picture of a very pregnant looking Bristol at the People photo shoot yesterday, I knew THAT was the story, that Grandmagate was a ruse.

This is the lead story on Reuters/MSNBC: "The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child."

The Repugs did what they could to get some political benefit out of the pregnancy, considering that the real story was bound to be out in a few days. At least the Huffington Post stayed out of it. DU mods should look to see how Grandmagate exploded on this site, it would be interesting to see who first pushed the story.

[jane_pippin]

82. Wow. That's really sad on many levels.

That poor girl. I can't imagine what she must be going through. Seventeen, pregnant, getting married at 17, and having to do it all under national scrutiny? That's horrible.

What's worse, is that in a saner political world it could spark a dialogue about how important sex education is, instead of abstinence only, how important access to safe, affordable contraception is, instead of Palin's No Birth Contorl Ever policies. It could spark an actual dialouge and maybe change some fundie minds and show that these things happen to all kinds of families--even arch conservative "Uber Family Values" families and maybe we should be a little less rigid in how we educate our children about sex. In a saner politcal climate, that would be at least one good thing to come out of it.

But instead who knows. I can't believe her mother would accept the nomination knowing about this. It's not going to be easy for her daughter in the first place, and again, to have to do it as her mom campaigns to be VP? I feel for her.

And I'm disgusted with her mother given her attitude toward contraception and choice. Teen motherhood isn't easy for anyone, and if Palin has her way--though I can't for a nanosecond believe they'll actually win the election--a lot more young women are going to be forced into a very difficult life--women who may not be as lucky as Bristol, who I assume has access to pre-natal care and a family to support her.

It's sad six ways from Sunday.

[bigwillq]

89. The baby story (both of them) is a distraction

and so many people here are falling for it. :mad:

[TheKentuckian]

96. It's only a distraction if you see it as a real issue

Most are focused on a much bigger picture. I have no problem with slinging a little though, I can multi-task.

I am super glad the campaign and hopefully high level surrogates leave this alone but the electorate is not under such constraints.
The Republicans have all but made elections like a high profile court proceeding, every shred of "doubt" may make a difference to certain types of voters in the booth.

I'm not a believer in taking things off the table, nor am I stupid enough to get caught up in minutia, clearly Palin's family won't make or break the election but it may be a loose thread that can help remove the family values garbage.