How exactly does Bristol Palin's pregnancy help Obama?

[rug]

[DainBramaged]

1. Fundie hypocrisy, and poor vetting

[rug]

4. McCain said he knew about it beforehand.

Her support for her daughter likely will resonate more than finger-pointing.

[indie_voter]

10. I can't believe he did. I think he's saying it now to save face. n/t

[vaberella]

17. Dunno. Her pregnancy is pretty obvious. n/t

[indie_voter]

18. When did he meet her family? Before or after he announced her?

If reports are right, he only met her once, talked to her on the phone, he could have found out after it was too late. Which is my bet.

[vaberella]

24. You don't need to meet for him to be informed.

I'm sure a telephone can relay a lot of information as well. So then he would know about it. If she was vetted, I'd assume one of his operatives would have met her and known about this or at least been to the town to know or speak to her contacts to know. When I say her prenancy is pretty obvious there are a lot of ways to find out if you're looking for it.

[BlooInBloo]

2. McGrabAss: Bad decision maker. Highlights our desire to avoid unwanted pregnancies.

[Lars39]

3. Just having to admit it set McCain's campaign back.

It puts them on the defensive.

[rug]

5. Maybe but it gives them a chance to put their prolife stance front and center.

[Lars39]

7. Which is cause for any thinking individual to run from in horror,

especially if Palin's anti-contraceptive stance is pushed.

[rug]

15. Not necessaily.

If they support the daughter unconditionally they can move the argument from antiabortion to caring for babies. That's a big difference

[Bucky]

16. Clearly, that's the plan in case Dems are stupid enough to attack on this non issue

Democrats believe in personal privacy and reproductive choice. We should respect both in this case.

[Lorien]

6. Palin believes in "abstinence only" training in schools

Obama does not. See how well that policy worked for her family?

[rug]

9. Maybe she was absent that day.

[lligrd]

8. If It Was Obama's Daughter That Was Pregnant

Do you suppose they'd give it a pass? This speaks directly to their hypocrisy and to the fact that abstinence only doesn't work.

[Igel]

21. And would we be objecting, saying it's none of their damned business?

Doesn't this speak to another group's hypocrisy?

After all, if it were Obama's daughter, we'd be saying it's none of their business, and claiming it as a higher moral principle.

A higher moral principle that is weighted for party affiliation, apparently. At least for some people.

(As for abstinence-only, is that the rule in schools Bristol's attended? Or was Bristol entirely home-schooled? If I'm going to accept that she's pregnant as a consequence of abstinence-only education, I at least need to see that the premise holds and her sex ed was abstinence only.)

[lligrd]

23. Actually, I Doubt We Would Run Someone

with a pregnant teenage daughter.

[LynneSin]

11. It shows that republican hypocrisy - they want to teach abstinence-only in our schools

and leave it up to the parents to discuss 'the other stuff'

Clearly this doesn't work for Sarah's family

[Bucky]

12. Three steps: 1st, hypocritical Dems have to attack the Palins for private family matters....

2nd, Smug Republicans get uppity over how gullible Dem knee-jerks have walked into the fairly obvious trap of attacking motherhood and verbally abusing a teenaged mother-to-be, going against standards of decency and betraying our own values

3rd, Obama makes a big speech distancing himself from these juvenile attacks on the Palins, but still manages to slip in a subtle plug for his work telling teenaged dads-to-be that they need to step up to their responsibilities.

[LynneSin]

13. It shows that republican hypocrisy - they want to teach abstinence-only in our schools

and leave it up to the parents to discuss 'the other stuff'

Clearly this doesn't work for Sarah's family

[vaberella]

14. I don't know. I do know that the McCain camp can have their own after school specials.

All I know so far is that the McCain camp can have their own after school specials.

1. Extra-marital affairs.

2. Teen pregnancy/Pre-marital sex.

3. Drug use.

4. Abuse (verbal)

5. Lieing.


They have five weeks of shows.

[Emit]

19. It forces GOP to spend time explaining things and reveals their hypocisy

[RagAss]

20. Proof there was no vetting....simple stuff here

[NJmaverick]

22. What kind of mother runs for national office, knowing it would bring

all sorts of publicity to her pregnant unwed teenage daughter?

[LisaL]

25. Does everything have to help Obama?

I have no idea how it could help him, but there are things out there that have nothing to do with helping Obama.

[Meshuga]

26. Only the poor vetting perhaps. The religious won't care because they can turn...

a blind eye to the situation to elect a pro-life candidate.

[No Elephants]

27. Sarah supposedly does not believe in contraception, even for married couples. She accepted this VP

slot, knowing what it would subject her child to. Turns out this typical hockey mom from the Harper Valley PTA may not be so typical after all. Maybe not so much a great mom either. And why did McCain pick her. Did he know about Bristol or not? Did he subject Bristol to this, or did he not vet? Either way, lousy JUDGMENT.

[Cha]

28. Obama's intelligent enough not to even

have it as a blip on his radar..this is all for DU.

[populistdriven]

29. Obama is above all this Drama

[Straight Shooter]

30. It gives him a chance to explain why education and available contraception are important.

"Mrs. Sarah Palin and Mr. Todd Palin, hello you frickin' idiots, teen-agers have HORMONES!"

Although I'm sure Obama would be more diplomatic than I in such matters. :)