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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:49 AM
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OFFICIAL Who Will The McClown Replacement VP Pick Be? Thread


I think we can say, with certainty, that soon Ms. Palin will no longer be with us on the campaign trail.

Who will the replacement be? Thoughts? Perhaps they'll go for Rob Portman now . . . I don't think Mittens and T-Paw will be taking calls from the Worst. Campaign. Ever.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:53 AM
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1. NO way Rove et all did not know EVERYTHING about Palin. She is
the October Surprise (one of them anyway). Palin is a highly developed tool designed to concretize: Fundamentalist "Christians" + Libertarians (because she has secessionist connections) + the Disabled Vote, basically to increase the pressure on Social Security in order to BREAK it so they can Privitize it.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:58 AM
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2. NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Patrice, I love ya, your posts are great, but this is NOT a creation of Karl Rove. Think it through for a second.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:32 PM
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7. I think it WAS rove...get Obama OFF the news cycle...THEN we can replace the VP
latter...hell what does he have to lose? they only have to make it LOOK close to steal it with the diebold et al machines!!!!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:32 PM
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49. No there is no way they planned this. This crap sucks the life out of a campaign.
No one is talking about McCain - or Obama, for that matter. They can't attack Obama as long as they have to defend Sarah. It is all about Sarah, and it is drip, drip, drip. And it won't matter if Sarah is pushed out or withdraws voluntarily. Everyone will think she was pushed out. Dobson et al will be pissed, royally, particularly if McCain goes with Ridge or Liebermann as the new VP. So he probably has to try to hang on to Sarah, as difficult as that may be for his prospects.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:35 PM
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10. It's just that it looks like such a BAD choice that it feels like a plant.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:43 PM
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31. Some people just can't let the ROVEISGAWD idea go. They just can't.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:09 PM
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3. If the 'Pukes had a convention, I'd bet on Mittens forcing a floor fight.
Don't remember off hand what his piece of the delegate pie is, but it's obviously more than Tundra Barbie has.

But with the whole Repukeapalooza up in the air right now, who knows?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:17 PM
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5. Tundra Barbie....
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 12:18 PM by cliffordu
:rofl:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:32 PM
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8. Tundra Barbie?
:rofl:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:49 PM
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34. I will forever think of her as Tundra Barbie
:rofl:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:15 PM
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40. I thought the meme was Caribou Barbie..( since it rhymes with Malibu)
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:15 PM
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4. I bet Huckabee is next up.
Hard to believe that Palin was chosen over the Huckster.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:31 PM
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6. McGramps will call the Huckster. n/t
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:58 PM
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18. Huckabee gets my vote (not really, just guess VP slot)
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:34 PM
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46. I heard they didn't vet Huckabee either. You may be right.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:34 PM
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9.  Palin will be gone very soon, one way or the other.
LIEberman is my guess.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:33 PM
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29. that is who McSame wanted
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:36 PM
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11. Do you think anyone would actually agree to run with McCain?
It already looks like he's picked from the bottom of his list.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:36 PM
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12. McCain's too stubborn to admit he made a bad choice. He'll never drop Palin.
They'll just keep telling America that having an unwed teenage daughter makes her MOAR QUALIFIED! to be veep.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:39 PM
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14. No, I Don't Quite Agree

First, there is no way that the McCain "campaign" knew about this before they selected her. I don't care what they say. They didn't. So, she lied to them and thought they could cover this up?? That means there is more that she isn't telling, and therefore, she has to go. It's embarrassing, it's probably the last chapter in the book of this ridiculous candidacy by a superannuated prick bastard, but I don't expect her to be around long.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:31 PM
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28. I think McCain only found out about the pregnant daughter YESTERDAY.
Remember how BAD he sounded when he was talking? Like he was really depressed, and was forgetting himself and repeating......he's not getting any sleep, lol.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:05 PM
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37. The news today about Palin and the A.I.P. will FORCE him to remove her
The video of the chairman of that party (supporting independence from the USA) saying that Palin was a member before she became mayor of Wasilla but had to join the Republican Party to "get along and go along" will doom her. Forget the babies and everything else - this ALONE will end her chances at actually being on the ticket. There's also now a video of her sending a "message" as Governor (this year!) to the A.I.P. convention.

No way will that fly. She's gone - within 48 hours.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:39 PM
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13. On Palin's stepping down and who would want to be second banana
Yesterday I posted asking if Palin would step away and was advised by others here that she was going nowhere. That still might be the case even if I think it's getting to where she might want to go shepherd her family instead of being a VP candidate.

Now - about who might step in. Who would want to be second fiddle? The prom date who steps in when you get jilted. Of all the possibles I think Mitt Romney has the least sense of pride. He's ready to put on another pair of rubber gloves and jump into the audience like a rock star.

At this point, I wouldn't put money on any scenario. It's such a g-d mess. Seems like the Republican party is in disarray.

Thanks for the opportunity to air some thoughts.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:53 PM
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15. Thank YOU for Sharing Them!

I'm wondering about the reports that Mittens was ticked off the other day when the Palin Pick was announced. Would he really swallow his ego, suit up (put the gloves on, as you hilariously say) and let the world know he was second choice to this absolute frigging (even by Gooper standards) nutbird? I don't know.

Then again, this whole thing is so utterly ridiculous that maybe they'll keep her.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:37 PM
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50.  Lieberman, Ridge, Huckabee, or Romney would accept. Ambition does amazing things to
people.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 PM
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16. This story makes Palin stronger, not weaker in the eyes of Evangelicals
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:11 PM by OmahaBlueDog
They'll ride this out. They'll use it for echoing Ann Coulter's remarks about Obama chasing the baby across the operating room to kill it, and they'll attack Biden's not voting against legal abortion while being Catholic.

If you're Dobson, et. al, there are 3 issues that matter: ending abortion, ending same sex marriage, and getting public money for religious education. In their eyes, this news changes nothing, and they're clearly calling the shots.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:44 PM
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21. But what about the independents?
I agree with you that he's secured the base. But he needs independents to win. I'm not so sure they'll feel comfortable with his judgment. There's more to Palin than the baby story. So taking it all into consideration, this is leaving more smudges than sparkles. Another more stable candidate could make it all go away.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:00 PM
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22. I've said from the start that Palin would only shore up the religious right/pro-life group.
Where I live, abortion is the only measuring stick you use on a candidate. And the right-to-lifers were having a collective orgasm when they heard Palin's story.

McCain didn't have the independent vote by a long shot with his selection of Palin. But what would be more fatal to his campaign--changing running mates or staying with Palin, given all of the personal and professional information on her that has surfaced since Friday?

Maybe we'll find out by the end of the convention, or whatever that event has morphed into.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:27 PM
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26. I picture the convention's spirit more like the mosh pit of the Korean Parliament
I won't try to post a pic as traffic is so heavy now. But you remember those photos, I'm sure!

Right now, speculating on what will happen is the toughest. I wouldn't put a nickel down either way. Either way, a large block of voters will mistrust his judgment. I'm liking that word, judgment, these days. :D
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:23 PM
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48. I agree that this won't won't helpwith the indys.Here's the problem.
McSame, by all anecdotal indications, wanted Lieberman for precisely the reasons you stated. It got vetoed by the fundies (as represented, of I'm correctly informed, by Dobson, Norquist, LaHaye, and Tony Perkins). Nobody more solid could be agreed upon.

My hypothesis is that, on balance, they figure afired up fundie base allows them to hold the South and Rockie Mountain West, and they'll take their chances in Florida and Ohio. Even if they lose the WH, they'd reason that they'll avoid a congressional bloodletting.

Meanwhile, you're right. In the minds of many independents, Sarah Palin will now = Lynne Spears.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 PM
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17. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
She's Minnesota's answer to Florida's Katherine Harris.

Similar lightweight credentials as Sarah Palin. Blindly obedient to the Fascist branch of the GOP. No pregnant 17-year-old daughter.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:00 PM
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19. Palin is NOT going to be replaced. The fundies love her
and will cheer her on because her daughter isn't getting an abortion. This is why McCain selected her. The fundies, the base love her more than they love him and if she is replaced they won't vote for him. It's not going to happen.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:05 PM
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20. Howver this happend, she will NOT be replaced.
They are solidifying their base, hoping to "win", but more importantly trying to create something to build on LATER, obviously to oppose Universal Health Care, and to offer to Re-cross-overs after the GE when they lose.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:13 PM
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39. The A.I.P thing dooms her. The party leaders are aghast. You watch - I give her 48 hours -nt
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 PM
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23. She isnt going away.
And if MCCain DID know about the baby, they knew they could counter it with Obama's story if it became an issue.

He wanted her on the ticket. I dont see her leaving it.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:19 PM
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24. Harriet Myers..
:shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:19 PM
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25. Bill Wetzill
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:28 PM
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27. Brittney.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:42 PM
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30. At least she would have more experience in foreign policy
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:44 PM
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32. Harriet Myers. That's why she's sportin' a new doo. n/t
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:00 PM
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36. I don't think the odds of replacement are high
They could try that she's going to focus on her family angle but it would have quite a clusterfuck factor to it. Keeping her may do the same but a replacement with a pro-choice candidate would probably at best put the base back where they were before.

I agree it was a Rovian, if not Rove orchestrated move. Stamp down the news cycle, please the base into ecstasy, and a Hail Mary for thoughtless women voters from both parties that were otherwise disaffected.

Obama made the best case for progressive politics on the national stage in at least a generation, the election HAD to get back off the issues to avoid a tidal wave. Palin or any woman as nutbar and young as she is was the play, any of the rest of the options just wouldn't have captured the cycle or the imagination of the Reich Wing.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:47 PM
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33. It doesn't matter
If he doesn't pick a women, he will lose any women votes he might have picked up.

If he does pick a women, it will become glaringly obvious that he is shamelessly pandering to women.

If he drops Palin and doesn't go for someone as nutty, he will lose votes from the Fundies that love her FAST.

Put a fork in him, he's done.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:49 PM
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35. I think he should pick James Dobson in the interest of transparency.
After all, that's who's calling the shots.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:11 PM
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38. Did you see this?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:28 PM
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41. No I hadn't.
Thanks :hi:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:29 PM
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42. Samuel Alito
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:31 PM
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43. Grandpa Pfred?
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:32 PM
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44. aint gonna happen
why would they wanna look that weak ?
they picked her for good or worst and theyll stick with her... or face being ridiculed even more heavily..
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:34 PM
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45. If it goes to the convention floor, it's gotta be Romney.
He's the only one with any significant block of delegates. And corporate money. Not to mention Heavenly Father Elohim and the Prophet Joseph Smith.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:35 PM
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47. HOLY JOE LIEBERMAN!!!
That's who McDouche wanted to begin with and that's who he'll have, dammit!

(And I'll do a happy dance.)
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