Why the FUCK are we making such a huge deal about this idiotic baby issue but not Trooper Gate?

[Danger Mouse]

     Sarah Palin is UNDER INVESTIGATION AND COULD BE IMPEACHED over her actions relating to Trooper Wooten and Commissioner Monegan.
     She removed Monegan without severance, and replaced him with an unqualified creep, Kopp, who she had to remove two weeks later, at $10,000 severance, when it came out that he had gotten in trouble for sexual harassment. The whole story stinks to high heaven, and is a serious scandal that could destroy Palin, even cost her the governorship of Alaska. This is the REAL story.
     Yet here I see 500 threads about whose fucking baby Trig is. That's a distraction from the REAL scandal, and we're gobbling it up like it's delicious candy. No, it's not, it's a shit sandwich, and we're biting down hard. Why don't we focus on the real scandal, and the real story...push Trooper Gate. Get it out there. It completely destroys the 'change' and 'maverick' message McCain so desperately wants to push.

[AldebTX]

1. Another Baby Issue

The press release today that the daughter is 5 months pregnant is also a big story. It has many of the conservative bloggers QUITE upset.

[Danger Mouse]

4. And meanwhile, the real story is lost in the shuffle.

At least it's good if it gets the conservatives all bent out of shape.

[Cosmocat]

37. The reality is Palin is a veritable train wreck ...

She is the political equivilent of Brittany Spears.

There just is TOO much out there about her.

[BlooInBloo]

2. Because DUers come largely from "The View" demographic, and they like the gossipy stuff.

You get used to it - Anna Nicole and all of the other gossip things pretty much shut DU down.

[Danger Mouse]

3. I've been here two years now, and I am still not used to it.

:grr:

[populistdriven]

41. This leaking fluid timeline has the mechanic in me intrigued

And I've never watched the View xcept clips from Michelle's appearance

[Balderdash]

5. Because we have become what we hate

gossip mongering freepers. I thought Obama was about doing it differently but some of his supporters are as bad as any dirty Republican. We might as all be wearing purple heart bandaids and shaking flipflops at people.

We should be easily beating McCain.

[Danger Mouse]

13. No worries. Obama and Biden aren't distracted by nonsense.

[Starry Messenger]

6. Because sex is more interesting that the evil machinations of bureaucracy.

Just a hunch.

And what the heck just happened to DU? It 'sploded or something.

MPK

[Danger Mouse]

12. We're on Defcon 1! Man battle stations!

And yeah, I think you're probably right

[Starry Messenger]

19. And here I was just about to make a nice pot of coffee

and hide all the Palin threads as usual. To the barricades!

MPK

[Duke Newcombe]

7. Patience, my precious...

Three words: drip, drip, drip...

Duke

[azmouse]

8. I don't get it either.

I hope those with egg on their face about 'babygate' will apologize at some point over the excess of these last few days...
but I won't hold my breath. Any one asking for DUers to calm down a little got flamed. It was as ugly as I've ever seen DU get.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. "Trooper Gate." Wasn't that name taken already?

Part of the Arkansas project maybe?

[dansolo]

10. Because Trooper-gate isn't going away

Trooper gate isn't being ignored. She is still under investigation, and if she survives the week, it will continue to be brought up. But a story about sex and hypocrisy, that strikes at the very heart of her core support, is also important. He main appeal was to energize the fundy base. This revelation means that that strategy will backfire spectacularly.

[Danger Mouse]

17. Yeah, but it's just rumor mongering, not based on fact.

[high density]

11. Sex is more interesting than any "real" issue

See Bill Clinton's second term.

[Danger Mouse]

15. Right...impeachment for a blowjob. I guess maybe we could've gotten it back on the table for Bush...

if he'd had someone give him a bj.

[progressivebydesign]

24. not enough money in the world to have that happen.. n/t

[Lorien]

23. and the recent John Edwards debaucle

I sincerely wish that the human race were evolved enough to focus on REAL issues; climate change, poverty, corporate "personhood", corporate corruption, wars of choice, the health care crisis, etc. etc....but the only things the American public really gives a rats ass about is gas prices and sex. That's about it. Hit the GOP on those issues AND EVERY OTHER ONE. Stop "keeping our powder dry" and grind these monsters into dust. The gloves are OFF!

[vaberella]

14. I've come to realise they all like tabloid fodder and don't care about the facts.

People care even less about the $20 million debt she left Wasilia in...and I get worried about having her sort of financing in the WH, by some scary off chance.

[DangerousRhythm]

55. Yes, there's much better stuff to go after, like the debt Ms. Executive Experience left Wasilla with

or any of the twenty other good things we've found out about.

The problem here is she's SUCH an unknown, such a blank slate, that details about this and that are coming out fast and furious and it's like... well, which to go with first? It's pretty ridiculous that we're reduced to this, but it also shows how inept John McCain's team is and how awful his judgment was.

[redqueen]

16. I don't know and I miss Hide Thread!

:cry:

[Danger Mouse]

18. DU has hit critical mass. I am very disappointed with us as a community today.

[redqueen]

22. It's gone from bad to REALLY?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

[Danger Mouse]

25. Well considering that DU is moving at a snail's pace, something is causing massive traffic.

My guess is it's the revelation that Bristol is pregnant now.
Yeah. That's the issue we need to discuss.

[redqueen]

28. Couldn't be that the wires are picking up the story of Palin's Bridge To Nowhere lie?

The thread in LBN was beset by trolls... panicking it seemed.

[Danger Mouse]

35. So maybe it's just a smokescreen?

Interesting.

[redqueen]

39. No 'maybe' to it IMO. (nt)

[Danger Mouse]

42. You'd THINK we're a bit smarter than this.

:grr:

[barack the house]

20. AMEN. k&r.

[progressivebydesign]

21. No shit! There is SO much USABLE stuff on Palin.. and we're mired in family crap.

Troopergate, Todd Palin's overinvolvement with the governor's business, aerial hunting, polar bears, etc. etc. etc.

She's a wealth of material with which to defeat them, yet thread after thread is about BABIES. I don't even like babies...

[NashVegas]

26. My Experiences in Other Threads

Indicate that there is a contingent of DUers who would like this website to be the Democratic answer to Little Green Footballs.

[Danger Mouse]

29. Haha, no kidding. I think we're on the verge of losing our collective sanity.

:crazy:

[faithfulcitizen]

27. I totally agree! I think this pick is going to completely sink McCan't.

[Midlodemocrat]

30. Because this women's stance on my reproductive rights

is disgusting. Trooper gate - not so much. She is under investigation and could be impeached, but we all know that won't happen.

[Danger Mouse]

32. Yeah, her position on choice is loathsome, but it has nothing to do with the damn baby.

That's just a distraction.

[redqueen]

33. The wires are picking up her Bridge to Nowhere lie today.

This is just a distraction...

[jazzjunkysue]

31. It takes a full scandal with sex to get the media to cover it. That's why.

We've been fighting for TV network coverage for 8 years. When we finally think we've got it, we'll settle for crap, as long as it opens the door for substance.

Or just flattens the GOP, whichever comes first.

[MarjorieG]

34. Really is a pattern of using offices for personal agenda/grievances...

Burning books, trusted friend/advisor dating someone Todd didn't like so he's fired, Troopergate (where they were warned if valid to be fired, their intrusion would jeopardize the case).

Then we have Obama taking care of loose nukes, smarter on foreign policy, visiting Europe with call for more US cooperation. A joke if our media weren't so covering for Mccain.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. The media has ALREADY been on the Troopergate story. n/t

[Danger Mouse]

38. Yeah, but what are we talking about on DU?

Babies, babies, babies.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. Why continue to dwell on what the media already has? You go out and find NEW material

since they prefer to engage in an orgy of McLame/Pay-me worship. Now that it has hit the lazy M$M, the subject will eventually switch to other stuff that the media should be investigating themselves... Or at least the bloviating talking heads on TV since the print media has been on top of all of this and was the source of info for the scandals in the first place.

[GOPBasher]

40. Thank you, Elrond.

Making a big deal of the baby issue is already backfiring, and with good reason; that's just attacking a family for no good reason. On the other hand, abuse of power is actually serious.

[Danger Mouse]

44. It is a real serious story...we're letting ourselves get distracted.

[mzmolly]

43. These issues surround one single factor. Integrity. If baby-gate is true, and she's the grandmother

of Twig, Trooper-gate is just another example of dishonestly. However, we should definitely focus on what we know to be the case, vs. speculation surrounding a pregnancy.

[Danger Mouse]

45. EXACTLY...spreading rumor instead of stating facts.

[DangerousRhythm]

46. 10 year old tased = instant sympathy no matter what the law. Abusive boyfriend too.

It's just that simple.

[Danger Mouse]

49. It's not that simple. The further issue is Kopp.

That has nothing to do with a tased 10-year-old.

[DangerousRhythm]

51. I'm talking about low information voters.

The second they hear a 10 year old was tased, all rational thought goes out the window and nobody cares about anything else. Look how bent out of shape this forum has gotten over Babygate/Grandmagate... perfect example of missing the forest for the trees, in my opinion.

[Danger Mouse]

52. The low information voters are irrelevant to the investigation she is currently facing.

[FVZA_Colonel]

54. Weren't claims of abuse already examined, and not seen as likely?

From what I know, the only things proven were the tasering and a threat against the father.

[AZBlue]

47. Indeed! K&R!!

[FrenchieCat]

48. Cause we are dumbasses .....who allow trolls to come on these boards

and set us up!

[Danger Mouse]

56. It seems like it.

:D

[No Elephants]

50. Nothing wrong with both. And pointing out the shape in which she left poor Wasilia.,

[2008]

57. What country do you think this is?

Does "trooper gate" involve sex?

I think we learned 10 years ago (Clinton investigations) that if it involves sex in any way, people will click on it or tune in to it.

[Danger Mouse]

58. I know that this is no country, this is DU, and we're supposed to be better than the 'sheeple'

we always mock.