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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:55 PM
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Am I the only one here who thinks it's fucked up that
A woman is running for VP while having just given birth to a down's syndrome baby and having a teenaged daughter that is pregnant? That's a lot of family issues to think about instead of thinking about the country. Won't someone think of the children?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 PM
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1. "Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead"?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 PM
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2. Wait till the old fucker drops dead and we're stuck with a woman who
is totally unprepared and clearly has a lot of chaos going on in her own family. Country First, John McPerv!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 PM
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3. The theme is "Country First"
Country ahead of family.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:01 PM
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4. Its like watching an Alaska version of HeeHaw
Unfortunately HeeHaw was popular with the redneck set, who never saw that they were being made fun of.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:01 PM
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5. Am I the only one who is sick of this kind of sexist bullshit?
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:02 PM by CrispyQGirl
Would you be posting this if Palin were a man? I doubt it, since you start your question with "A woman..." not "A parent..." Why is it assumed that children are primarily the woman's responsibility? She has a husband & other family to help out.

You're on a progressive board, for crying out loud & it's the 21st century. :eyes:

on edit: The question we should be asking is: Is she qualified? Not, what other family obligations does she have. We ALL have family obligations.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:10 PM
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6. I'd be asking the same questions if she were a man who espoused the same "values"
I know you didn't ask me, but I just wanted to point out that this type of criticism doesn't really qualify as sexism.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:22 PM
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9. The OP didn't question values, it questioned family obligations. --nt
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:33 PM
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15. I don't think a father with a four-month old special needs child should take on the VP run.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 PM
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7. WTF are you talking about?
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:15 PM by cbc5g
A mother being in her child's life is incredibly important, especially a special needs child. When there are divorce disputes the children almost always go with the mother. But that wasn't my point. It was about her readiness to be CiC with all those other factors linked in. Oh and by the way, I would have said, "why would a guy be running for VP if he has so much family drama?" if it were a man that was selected. Mark Warner gave "family reasons" as the reason he didn't want to be VP.

These "family obligations" are a little too much for someone SELECTED to put country first.


Umm so she has a down's syndrome baby and a pregnant teenage daughter and she dares run for VP with all this drama going on in her family right now? Won't someone think of the children? How can she even see what's good for the country when she has so many family issues going on? Where's the family values here? The VP isn't a fucking day care ESPECIALLY when you are VP to a 72 year old man whose father died at 71.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:34 PM
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17. Your original post didn't say anything about her life decisions vs. her rhetoric,
just her family obligations. I think Palin is a terrible pick, but I base it on her lack of qualifications, not her family obligations. If she has a solid support structure in place, she could do it. Granted, it would be quite a feat to accomplish, but it could be done. We need to focus on her lack of qualification.

You began your question by qualifying it with "a woman" & it sounded sexist to me. If you had said "a parent" it wouldn't have ruffled me. My apologies for reading more into your choice of words than you meant.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:54 PM
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20. Palin's Family Situation IS A Blatant Lack Of Qualification (n/t)

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:26 PM
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11. What's sexist about it?
The same concerns apply if it's a man or a woman who is the candidate.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:16 PM
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8. my husband and I would've sat down, and said, we think our family needs both of us too much
right now, we need to pass on this opportunity
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:24 PM
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10. McCain was forced to choose her. And she was forced to take it. Wake up Folks
McCain isn't running the show. Rove and crew are
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:29 PM
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14. But, why?
Can you explain why he was forced to choose Palin? What does Rove and crew want?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:34 PM
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18. She is far right wing. She was expected to fire up the base
and attract Hillary supporters. And if they happen to win. I think they will force McCain out in 2 months and they will have their puppet in there. McCain didn't know this woman. He wanted Lieberman, Pawlenty, or Ridge.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:27 PM
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12. Now We Know Why It Is Historic nt
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:28 PM
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13. I'm more weirded out by the pregnant daughter taking care of her baby when she's campaigning
The two family members that need the most support are taking care of each other. What the hell is the "First Dude" doing to help? It was Palin who was tapped and it's Palin who must campaign now so I think Todd should step off the campaign trail and do his duty as a father.
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Divine Ms Q Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:34 PM
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16. NOT that I'm defending Palin, but....
if she were a man, would you ask those same questions? Just curious.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:40 PM
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19. Right. Neglecting basic family values at home. Charity begins at home, and so does moralizing.
Right. Neglecting basic family values at home, Palin is guilty. Charity begins at home, and so does moralizing.
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