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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:53 PM
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Freepers say "still a MODEL Christian family"
From Freeperland:

You people out there that want crucifiy like Pharisees need to shut up and support a family doing right from within their own heart instead of just outward signs.
Are you blind can you not see that this is STILL a model Christian family!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2072414/posts?q=1&;page=451

Interesting...
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:58 PM
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1. Conservatives never believe the rules they want to impose on everyone else
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:58 PM by DJ13
......are supposed to apply to themselves.

Same BS we see everyday with the "free market" types who rail against welfare but want the government to bail out their asses when times get tough.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:59 PM
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2. I wonder if she'll get government health care?
Seriously, how does that work?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:00 PM
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3. They're twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify their hyprocrisy on sex.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 PM
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4. "Getting pregnant young is a natural response to living in wild areas like Alaska"
I saw that earlier at FR and it's still my favorite. Sorry, no link to it.

Reminded me of the post here a couple of days ago about how Native Americans should be the only people allowed to hunt "Because they are the only ones that hunt for subsistence".
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:05 PM
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6. So is sex with animals
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:07 PM
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7. OMG

That is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard! So we should feel encouraged to "act like animals?"
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:15 PM
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15. Yes, and we have video to prove it:
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:16 PM by MercutioATC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds-GVhBGPuE

Sorry, I've couldn't resist...think I should post that on FR?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:38 PM
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36. sure go for it!!
Just post the url of the page after you do it!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:43 PM
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40. I'm trying to keep the present FR toon alive...
...I don't think this would do much to insure his future there. It would be funny, though.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:34 PM
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29. Not that the freepers would care, but
It's not like the Palins live in a "wild area". They live in a town with roads and electricity and the internet (albeit still in its older tube-delivered form.) It's like the menfolk have to go out every morning on the ice, hoping they can spear a seal or two so the family has something to eat.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:40 PM
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38. They are *so* forgiving when it's one of their own! /nt
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torbird Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:04 PM
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5. It's true, though
2000 years ago, Bristol Palin would be an old maid and this would have been a miracle. Truly, this is what Jesus would have wanted.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:08 PM
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8. Don't use Christ..fucking freepers, when
it's the fucking devil you worship.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:08 PM
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9. Here are two of their threads:

We have walked in the Palins’ shoes
Monday, September 01, 2008 12:03:25 PM · by flyfree · 63+ views
hotair ^ | Ed Morrissey
Our son and daughter-in-law had just started their senior year in high school when they became pregnant, and I use that pronoun deliberately. The two of them formed their own unit and held each other up during a terribly stressful year. Meanwhile, we parents had to support them as best we could, and make sure they knew we loved and supported them through it all. In return, we discovered two wonderful adults who had just been children shortly before, and when the Little Admiral came, two wonderful parents as well. None of this was easy, and we certainly all had...


Mary, Unwed Mother of Jesus, Did Not Abort the Baby
Monday, September 01, 2008 12:03:15 PM · by xzins · 1 replies · 20+ views
Bible ^ | 1 AD | Bible
Mary, unwed mother, did not abort the baby Jesus. She did the right thing. Joseph had his concerns, but he came around when God spoke to his heart about what he really believed.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:10 PM
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11. another thread: "Good for Bristol. And I hope she has 10 or 15 more babies after this one."
"Good for Bristol.
And I hope she has 10 or 15 more babies after this one.


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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:21 PM
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20. Cause wimmens shud do nuttin but make babbies!
Where the fuck do these inbreds come from?
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:09 PM
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10. The hypocrisy is mind-blowing
If it was Dem they'd be crucifying that family. If she was preggers with the father's baby (sick, sorry) they'd find a way of rationalizing even that prob.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:10 PM
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12. "Pharisees" the very description of the "Christian Right"
Accusing and calling out "sin," yet denying their own.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:11 PM
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13. That's the mode of the hopeless. They truly cannot so much as *conceive* of things being any better.
(rimshot)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:11 PM
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14. That's because to these people a young woman should get knocked up and shotgun wedded asap nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:15 PM
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17. Here's another gem from freeperland:
You are assuming the pregnancy wasn’t planned.
That’s quite a leap.

--

:wow:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:21 PM
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21. Even better...her daughter PLANNED an out-of-wedlock pregnancy????
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:25 PM by MercutioATC
The gene pool really DOES need some chlorine...

(on edit) I'm talking about the Freeper who posted this, not Bristol...
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:37 PM
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32. A selfless act on her part. She felt that Trig would need a playmate.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:22 PM
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22. Maybe the pregnancy (sex) was planned, but not the shotgun marriage :)
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:28 PM
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26. That one is

MIND BOGGLING. So this guy is saying it was a leap that she didn't plan it. LMMFAO...if she planned it, wouldn't marriage have preceeded it?

Goddamn those people on FreeRepublic are absolutely the dumbest bunch of hayseeds I've ever seen. No wonder they like Palin so much.
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DirtyBirdNorth Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:15 PM
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16. Just Wait Until McCain Is Soundly Defeated In November..
These same nutcases that are defending her now, will be scapegoating her and her family as the reason for the Republicans loss.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:15 PM
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18. "Crucifiy" Figures that a Bible-thumping Freeper can't even spell a word important to their cause.
K
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:17 PM
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19. Typical neocon attitude: When we fornicate, it's good. When you do it, it's bad.
Copy and paste for all other "moral" issues, 'cause they're in God's hands, and God apparently only cares about how bad you are until you say, "Whoops, sorry," and stroke his enormous immortal omniscient ego, and then you're good to go on with life, 'cause Jesus's blood darn BATHES YA, now.

:eyes:
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:23 PM
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23. The problem with fornication is that it leads to dancing.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:25 PM
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24. Unfortunately, they are right.
This is what Christian families are like, with all the hypocrisy, lying, covering up of sin among family members and not letting women have access to the family planning methods that would help them to be in charge of their fertility.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:28 PM
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25. Because every model Christian family has at least one knocked up teenager.
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Frumious B Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:28 PM
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27. It just means that Palin now has two children she can use a political props.
The theocons are bursting with pride I'm sure.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:29 PM
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28. They don't think Obama is a model christian family
Lets see...

Side A: Adultery, Divorce, Premarital Teenage Sex, Beauty pageants, Dealing drugs (alcohol), DUI's, Greed

Side B: Experimented with Drugs as a Teenager, Gave up high paying jobs to work with the poor and needy

yup...Side A is much more in line with Christian Values


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:35 PM
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30. Yes they are a model
A mother that is willing to hurt her child, for a chance at fame and glory. A mother that didn't arm her daughter with the knowledge to prevent a life changing mistake. A mother that leaves her family when they are dealing with an infant with Down Syndrome and a unwed teenage daughter.
You know 17 year olds are not well equipped to raise a child. The ones that get through it successfully, usually get a lot of help from their parents. Doesn't look like that will be the case here.

yup the very model of a Christian Family


PS- Forgot the "yeah I smoked pot. I still think it should be outlawed, because making what I did legal would send the wrong message to the kids".
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:43 PM
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39. She is certainly not much of a mother. /nt
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:35 PM
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31. Still there are some freepers posting that think this is a bad thing...
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:36 PM by skooooo
Helluva job vetting there, McCain. LOL

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Actually, this is not a good thing. It is a statement that some of those familly values that Sarah is advancing could not even be passed along to her own kid.

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Oh my. This is going to get quite interesting. I’d like to think that Palin can ride it out, but somehow I don’t think so. The Obama media is going to go hard.
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It is good that they aren’t hiding this but getting it out there and McCain knew about this but felt this shouldn’t disqualify her to be his running mate. Look, if the current President can have supposedly “wild” daughters when he was running and his VP can have a lesbian daughter, then having a VP with a pregnant teenager is not the end of the world.

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No, it's not nonsense. IF TRUE, it's going to be used endlessly to bash socons as hypocrites, as "proof" that only pushing condoms on teens can prevent teen sexual activity, and to bash the Palins in particular as trailer trash.
Again, IF TRUE (it's not on the official website), this is very sad.

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Well, they could have made sure their daughter was on birth control.

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I’d like to believe this won’t cost any votes, but I’m really not certain about that.

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Let’s face it; the Palins’ are just child-abusers who don’t mind if their daughter is “punished with a baby” after making a mistake.

And what’s even worse, is the fact that McCain knew all about it, and picked Palin as his VP running mate anyhow. /s

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Is this the same group who jumped all over Jamie Lynn Spears for getting knocked up?

They are doing the right thing, but Palin has now become a distraction to the campaign.

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Sadly, this revelation probably will hurt McCain/Palin among a certain segment of the GOP base. Poor Bristol is going to learn a hard lesson--that sinful acts do have real world consequences and that there are A LOT of truly evil people in this world more than willing to use a young girl's mistake to destroy her mother.


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She and her boyfriend are in love, they’re getting married and she’s having a baby. What’s the problem?
The problem is the order - getting pregnant before marriage is NOT admirable behavior. And yes, my daughter did the same thing.

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Tell me again how two teenagers with less than a high school education are going to support a baby without our tax dollars?

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Well, they could have made sure their daughter was on birth control.
That doesn't make any sense. Sara would then be a hypocrite.

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I wonder if the smart and graceful thing to do is “decline” to accept the nomination. After all, her son is going to Iraq. She has a newborn baby. Her daughter is pregnant and unwed. This would allow a new Veep candidate to step to the plate, immediately.

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I am sensing a double standard on this thread and this is not who we are.

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I hate to say that I agree with you. We need to not be so naive that we think this is a plus for Palin or McCain.

I am not going to post what I know where they will go with this, but if you think about it, it will not be pleasant.

I find it hard to believe McCain knew about this. If he did...well....good luck.

I am not casting any stones to Palin and her family. I have a son who is an unwed Dad too. Only thing is, not too many care what we do.

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PLEASE don't let the left cause a negative reaction here. They want nothing more than for Sarah to step down. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN.

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You're not following my point. Socon/Christian = abstinence. This will be used by the left in spades to say that abstinence doesn't work and can't work, and that only the leftist solution, "comprehensive sex ed" (which is code for push BC on kids and tell them to do what they want), has any utility.

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I have to say...I feel duped by this and the fact that of all days...today is when this get announced...that alone is very poor timing...this news should have been immediate....trying to throw it out there on a busy news day is very transpartent.

no one was more thrilled that I was...I have spend the last few days signing her praises, inclusing family values...

I am not a happy camper...I was not a huge McCain fan...Mitt was my guy but felt she the best choice...man this is going to hurt imho.

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Maybe he could have chosen Romney or Pawlenty or Bobby Jindal?
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I think the smart and graceful thing is to “decline to accept” the nomination. Allow a new (better vetted?) candidate to step up. After all, Sarah Palin has a lot on her plate: A son going to Iraq. A pregnant and unwed daughter. A newborn infant. She might be smart to not accept the nomination. QUickly.

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I felt sad and let down reading the headline. The libs will have a field day with this, of course. But knowing she is choosing to have her baby is a good thing. Kids can just be so stupid.

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Yep. That’s the problem is how it was handled. If they would have leaked the issue before he actually picked the VP, it would not have become a scandal.

It’s not a Palin problem, it’s a McCain problem. He didn’t handle the situation correctly.

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I agree. I think Palin should step down.


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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:38 PM
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35. wow. Thanks for posting this.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:38 PM
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33. Close, but no cigar. Their model Christian family is to be found
in The Handmaid's Tale. But heck, they're a work in progress.
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:38 PM
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34. It is very simple
If a freeper does it it is good.

If anyone else does it it is an earth shattering corrupt liberal anti American plot to destroy Christianity and the moral foundation of America.


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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:39 PM
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37. So they impose these strict standards of behavior on everyone else...
...then when they don't follow their own rules they forgive themselves immediately and proclaim themselves purer than ever.

What. Total. BS.
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