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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:15 PM
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Palin = Train Wreck.
Heaven forbid, I can't seem to tear myself away from watching it. I can not recall such a trainwreck in a national election - and I have been following these elections since 1984. I have watched landslides - but even when Mondale/Ferraro were trounced, the campaign itself wasn't a veritable trainwreck.

I can't stop rubber necking. I don't know which is worse - the revelations, or the gop spinmeisters trying to explain it all away.

One even said that being a mother of five was a hard job and thus was a legitimate qualification to be vice president. No Lie.

The GOP finally have become one giant caricature of their own party.

These folks simply can NOT get anywhere near the whitehouse. We have to do all that is possible (politically speaking) to make sure that doesn't happen.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:16 PM
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1. .
:popcorn:
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:17 PM
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2. unfortunately she might energize the evangelicals........
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:19 PM
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6. But luckily evangelicals are outnumbered by American's with common sense.. NT
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:23 PM
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12. unluckily for us, evangelicals VOTE and a lot of Americans with common sense don't bother.....
how else to explain 8 years of the shrub?
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:53 PM
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30. Point taken.. let's hope this country has learned over the past 8 yrs.. NT
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:21 PM
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8. what good is that if they push even more folks off the train platform?
the GOP do not win national elections based only on an "energized evangelical" vote.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:28 PM
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16. McLoon just shoved a whole lot of Indies into Obama's camp with this pick, at
the expense of pandering to the religious right. He damaged his one big strength, IMO.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:25 PM
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35. I think the preggo teen might throw a little damp water on their enthusiasm. eom
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:33 PM
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38. I doubt it.
They'll twist it around until they have her doing God's holy Jesus work or some such BS. Remember, we're dealing with people who don't believe in logic or reason.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:07 PM
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45. I doubt it. She's energized evangelical talking heads
But you can bet there are millions of evangelical families sitting at home right now going WTF?
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:52 PM
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61. she "might"
too late for that
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:18 PM
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3. I was angry and insulted the day Palin was picked for VP
but after spending the weekend thinking about it and all of these revelations and McCain's incompetence in choosing her, I am having a good laugh right now :-).

Typical GOP incompetence. "Heckuva job McCain". :rofl:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:24 PM
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13. I got caught up in watching the trainwreck on Saturday morning
once the first opeds were in. I am laughing on the one hand - but really sitting in stunning disbelief.

This looks like a political implosion - and one of McCain's own making.

Yesterday I thought to myself - maybe he really does put service to his country above his own political aspirations and this was his harikari to take down what's left of the GOP.

Okay - I really don't think he intended to possibly throw away the campaign with this, but daaannng....
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:30 PM
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18. Just when it looks like things couldn't get any worse for his
selection....wonder what else will turn up?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:46 PM
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42. Well, I hear she backs AK secession........
That'll score her a few more points.......
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:22 PM
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46. train wreck....
My point exactly.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:19 PM
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4. Woo Wooo!

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:19 PM
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5. Let's not forget Cindy McBuffaloChip's insistence that Palin had
foreign policy experience because Alaska and Russia are geographically close. The GOP has finally jumped the shark on this one.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:26 PM
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14. in one morning Cindy just threw herself onto the top of the laughingstock heap.
Can you imagine even trying to claim that tripe with a serious face?

shark... jumping.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:36 PM
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27. And Pawlenty's remark about how managing a family's budget
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 03:37 PM by tblue37
gives her the experience to manage the federal budget.

Oh, and I read somewhere that some GOP fool claimed that her PTA leadership expereince gave her executive experience, too.

This is theater of the absurd.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:39 PM
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29. "Theater of the absurd" is correct. This is how the GOP views the office
of the Presidency and VP. They'd argue for a dog as VP if they thought it might work.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:24 PM
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47. well Pawlenty might be trying to be absurd
word is he is pretty pissed off right now. Thought he had bagged the slot.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:01 PM
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31. And Bay Buchanan's insistance that the fact Calamity Jane's son was going to Iraq
alone established her expertise on foreign affairs.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:06 PM
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32. LOL! I, too, can haz Vice Presidency, since my husband has been to Iraq!
I am now an expert on foreign affairs, and didn't even know it!
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:04 PM
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44. I live close to a nukular power plant, can I be a nukular engineer?
NoFederales
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:26 PM
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49. in McCain's GOP, you now are qualified to command a fleet of nuclear
subs. Or so their logic would seem to go. But if you are a democrat, oops no longer qualified ;-)
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:25 PM
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48. Oh dear God
May I make a broad generalization here and state that anyone who supports today's Republican Party has to be absolutely clueless?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:20 PM
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7. Funny - those Repub. CEOs never seem to view being a mother
as a good qualification when they hire highly-paid managers at their firms.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:21 PM
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9. McCain=Bus Wreck
Palin = Roadkill

McCombobulated can't keep the express straight
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:27 PM
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15. There it is the BusWreck/Roadkill ticket.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:31 PM
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21. "Benny Hill Presidency"
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:22 PM
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10. Salin = DU Legend
You are abso-freakin'-lutley correct. I literally get nauseaous contemplating such a far-right whackjob getting that close to the Oval Office. Bush has his puppetmasters, and he does their bidding with little surprise in the awful results - but she would fire them, and who knows what else. She's the most wretched pick for VP in history, and there are plenty of horrible ones (Quayle, Agnew, etc).
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:30 PM
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19. wierdly I think her candidacy will implode long before
we ever are in a position to find out what insanity would happen. The question is whether or not McCain's candidacy will implode with hers. And as confident as I am in watching this trainwreck that this is a near collapse of their ticket - no over confidence here. No way ever would I let these jokers anywhere near the wh.

btw, :hi:

have to sign off for a few hours, but am glad I caught you first!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:34 PM
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26. Always great to see you
I wish I shared completely your faith in this implosion. Although you are correct in not being overconfident. Part of me believes he is throwing the election, the other part fears the media will do a successful "She's a reformer! An All-American Mom! She's One of US!" cosmetic do-over, and sucker just enough of the GOP base and right-leaning independents, that.................

:nuke:

:hi:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:29 PM
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50. One would think that at some point more members of the msm would
start resenting being put in the position of acting the idiotoafwaterbearer for the GOP that some would jump ship. And while I would like to say that there are signs of this starting to happen, we have too long been living this orwellian nightmore to believe it is soon to be passing.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:17 PM
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33. Quayle was a buffoon and he looks like Obama
next to Miss Mooseburger.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:37 PM
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39. Quayle had been in Congress for twelve years!
It seems strange, but he actually did some important work. I read up on him back then, and was surprised that he was a bit more than he seemed. Gidget, however, is more likely a good deal less than she seems, even now.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:23 PM
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11. this is like
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 03:24 PM by Epiphany4z
hell I am not sure...a bad lifetime movie...first he compares Obama to Brittney then he pics Britney's mom as vp...oy.

They try to tell us..she is good on foreign policy because she lives..sorta kinda close to russia..yaya I stayed at a holiday in last night thats why I am going to sec of the interior.

then she is abstinence only , pro life no matter what, and she neglects to tell us ..That it didn't work in her own family.

She calls her self a feminist is not for equal pay

holy shit what is not to love.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:30 PM
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17. Plane crash #6.
Or is it 7.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:30 PM
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20. The screenwriters...
...for Lifetime movies are feverishly taking notes....


"The Sarah Palin Story: The Girl who wanted it ALL" Starring : a really bad, unknown actress
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:39 PM
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40. Katherine Harris is available. /nt
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:32 PM
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22. It sounds as if the religious right is estatic. It also could be devastating
because swing voters will perhaps love this woman. Playing with fire...
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:32 PM
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23. Palin = Bitch to Nowhere
Palin = Bitch to Nowhere

I hesitated to post that, because the word bitch is used so casually and hatefully by ignorant people, but sometimes the term applies.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:32 PM
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24. She also might energize those who are scared to death to
think of her being a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency, and those who feel insulted by McCain's and the Republcians' complete disregard for the safety and well-being of this country.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:34 PM
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25. It is as if the media is auditioning for The Daily Show, it has become just that ludicrous.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:38 PM
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28. the gop became one giant caricature of its own party eight years ago
its just become too obvious even for the media to pretend otherwise, try as they might.
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tpi10d Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:23 PM
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34. GOP "heckuva job brownie" candidate
I think this will be the eventual take-away from the Palin nomination.

Probably more revelations to come- recent lawyer breaking news troopergate.

Possible pull back of Palin for family reasons.

Likely press and gossip rags combing archives in Alaska.

I agree it looks like a train wreck.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:25 PM
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36. Welcome to DU tpi10d!
:hi: It's the incompetence that should be a major issue for our party to hammer on. I like your "heckuva job brownie" comment. I said the same thing in one other thread here. It's so appropriate :-).
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:27 PM
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37. How about one of her experience qualifications being
the PTA?

Don't get me wrong, I'm involved with the PTA. I'm a Life Member! But shit, that doesn't qualify me for national public office.

I'm not even sure that qualifies me for mayor.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:43 PM
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41. If we ever need to balance the U.S. budget through wrapping paper and cookie dough sales,
we PTA moms will step in to save the day! :patriot:

;)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:31 PM
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51. bwahahahaha
again - train wreck.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:06 PM
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55. LOL!
YAY PTA MOMS!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:23 PM
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57. Lets hold some paper drives... to pay for more tax cuts!
:-)

There is a lot of fun to be had on this line per how helpful her experience on the PTA would be for being vice president.

It totally negates being president of the Harvard Law Review. And being a mayor of a town of less than 8000 is totally more relevant per experience than years in the state senate of a large (and complex) state, and less than 18 months as gov of Alaska way, way negates four years in the US senate. Oh - and her state is next to Russia - so she *must* have tons more foreign relations experience. Totally.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:26 PM
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59. Shit, you know, I'm thinking I really need to get myself into
national public office. Not only do I have PTA experience, but I also have a master's degree. Rock on.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:48 PM
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43. No offense, but, I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:05 PM
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54. I have other qualifications, though.
Wink.

(I'm fully planning on running for office someday. And I'm starting with the school board.)
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:34 PM
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52. Cars tumbling, smoke, fire . . .
when will it all STOP???

Hopefully not 'til I need a popcorn refill.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:45 PM
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53. This choice is forcing a lot of GOP figures to jump into the smoking car
as they try to come up with pubic statements to make the absurd seem reasonable.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:13 PM
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56. And how embarrassed will they be when it's all over?
Not at all, I'd bet. The whole episode never happened.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:24 PM
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58. their degree of embarassment, or shame is irrelevant
but for each moderate listener who takes more scales off of their eyes due to the absolute absurdity of it all... that is what matters in the long run.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:31 PM
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60. This is what two people's ruthless ambition has wrought...n/t
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