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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:37 PM
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McCain was asked what he would do if his daughter was pregnant.
"The final decision would be made by Meghan with our advice and counsel," McCain said, referring to himself and his wife, Cindy. When reporters suggested that this view made him, in fact, pro-choice, McCain became irritated. "I don't think it is the pro-choice position to say that my daughter and my wife and I will discuss something that is a family matter that we have to decide."

Sounds pro-choice to me. :rofl:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:38 PM
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1. glad to see you've joined the club, johnny!
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:38 PM
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2. McSame is a senile old fool and will lose by historic proportions
This one will be one for the ages.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:39 PM
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3. he is pro choice only when it comes to his own daughter
and they have enough money to send her off to another country if abortion is made illegal here and she wants one.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:40 PM
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4. The article dates from 2000:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:41 PM
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5. That was Dan Quayle's answer. Then next day his wife came out screaming
"She'd carry the baby to term! She'd carry the baby to term!"

McCain's answer is pro-choice.
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:41 PM
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6. What "final decision" is he talking about?
Pro-lifers don't believe in choice or decisions. Oops.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:43 PM
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7. Shotgun wedding or adoption I suppose
At least that's what they want us to think.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:38 PM
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18. I wish the next question had been, what if he decided to Abort the baby?
Then watch him squirm about "Choice and Decision"
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:43 PM
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8. A pro-life position would neither require nor allow any discussion of how to handle the pregnancy.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:53 PM
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13. "Pro-CHOICE" usually means 3 options.
Abortion is one of 3. Pro-life eliminates one, but two are left. Adoption or raising the child yourself.

You're right. Carrying to term vs. aborting is off the table. But what happens after you deliver is still in play. I think both points in time (finding out and delivering) represent huge decisions.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:12 PM
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16. Right. No choice about what to do, prenatally. But whether to keep or adopt, post-natally.
I don't know the context but the conversation with McCain was probably about abortion.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:43 PM
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22. Yes, but someone who truly espoused that so-called "pro-life" position
would have been quick to point out that abortion was off the table. He would have said, "We'd discuss whether she'd be getting married and could raise the baby, or if the baby would be put for adoption."

Anyone truly following that side of the fence would have made it VERY VERY clear that abortion was not an option. McCain didn't do that.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:44 PM
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9. Well, remember, pro-choicers always choose abortions.
Pro-choice always = have an abortion

Pro-choicers never actually choose to have and raise their babies

:sarcasm:

If McCain is too stupid to realize that he gave a very pro-choice answer, then he's definitely too stupid to be running the country.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:46 PM
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10. Umm, McCain? You Realize if you Put a SCOTUS Justice in Who Will Overturn Roe v. Wade
that discussion of yours, your daughter's and Cindy's will have one legal conclusion.

You DO Realize that, don't you?
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:47 PM
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11. sounds like a Bush answer
That's amnesty.
"I don't think it's amnesty."

Sounds like a bailout of the mortgage industry.
"I don't think it's a bailout."

Sounds like Iraq wants a timeline to withdraw.
"I don't think it's a timeline."
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:50 PM
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12. Alan Keyes excoriated John McCain about this during a 2000 Repub debate
It was a Bush-Keyes-McCain debate right before the South Carolina primary, I think. Keyes phrased it best. Something like, "How can you bestow a right, a privilege upon your daughter that you want to withhold from all other Americans?" :rofl:
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Basement Beat Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:59 PM
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14. Alan Keyes said something that made sense??
Man that debate had to be GOLD. McCain, Bush and Keyes?? Wow, they should have a reunion.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:18 PM
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17. Great video excerpt from the debate
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4823197&affil=wls

It's embedded in ABC not in youtube though, but still viewable. It's actually a GREAT excerpt of a few minutes. It has McCain trying to push Bush about the Republican Party platform not having exceptions for abortions, e.g. rape, incest, and mother's health. Then Bush gives a weak defense. Keyes is obviously the smartest man on the stage. He has a great line about how McCain wants to bestow a right upon his own personal family that he doesn't want to bestow upon all other Americans.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:00 PM
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15. The base isn't going to like that.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:40 PM
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19. He was pro-choice before he was pro-life before he was pro-choice before he was pro-life before he
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:41 PM
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20. Pfffft. The daughters of the wealthy will ALWAYS have a choice.
The daughters of the wealthy have ALWAYS had a choice.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:41 PM
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21. So long as you make the choice in Canada or Mexico, you can retain your pro-life cred.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:49 PM
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23. A decsion is a choice. McCain has opened an avalanche really., too funny.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:50 PM
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24. A decsion is a choice. McCain has opened an avalanche really., too funny.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:50 PM
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25. A decsion is a choice. McCain has opened an avalanche really., too funny.
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