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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:33 PM
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So if Palin doesn't drop out, can she NOT be nominated at the convention?
And if so, what happens then? Is it sort of a half-brokered thing at the convention to pick somebody? Or does McCain choose a back-up?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:34 PM
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1. Any delegate can put her name into nomination
per Robert's Rules of Order, nominations do not need a second.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:37 PM
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11. And other VPs can be nominated too. Can you say "floor fight". Haven't seen one in a long time.
And other VPs can be nominated too. Can you say "floor fight". Haven't seen one in a long time.

What a squabble. But if it were handled well, perhaps McCain can walk away from Palin with "clean hands", not lifting a finger, visible to the public that is.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:51 AM
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12. McCain doesn't even control his own delegates
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 10:51 AM by Gman
if he did, there could be some sort of a floor fight.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:37 PM
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2. Legally speaking, the delegates do NOT
HAVE TO ACCEPT the veep nominee. They can put forth their own nominations for veep. It's not usually done, of course, but that doesn't mean that it cannot be done. In fact, that's the way it used to be. The candidates themselves didn't always choose the veep nominee, the delegates did. The candidates could put forth nominations, of course, but there was no guarantee they'd be accepted.

In fact, there was talk previously of delegates putting forth their own nominations for veep if McSame had named Lieberman as his veep. The way things are going, they just might do it with Palin, if she doesn't drop out or resign by force first.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:39 PM
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5. Which brings up... Should Romney or someone else run for it?
I doubt anyone wants to be associated to McCain at this point, but if there's a rebel in the group. :shrug:
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:37 PM
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3. Why would she NOT be nominated?
She has done exactly what McSame wanted. She's shored up the fundie vote and whipped the evangelicals into a frenzy. There were questions about McSame from Dobson and other right wing whack jobs, but now they are all for this.

I'm not sure where the idea that she isn't exactly what the right wing wants comes from.

And BTW, I don't think this public attacking her from our side is doing us any good. Moderate swing voters see that as a smear against a woman, and that hasn't worked out so well for us this year with women voters.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:41 PM
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7. Her links to a secessionist group are going to hurt her big time.
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:48 PM
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9. Why?
You are looking at this through a non-fundie prism.

1994, the specific year that is mentioned that they bleonged to theis "seccession" group was during the Clinton years.
Fundies all acrtoss the country were joinging Militias and other "seccession" (read anti-federal governemnt) groups to protest that evil socialist/red communist Clinton.

You might think this is going to hurt her, but I think its only going to help her imagine this line at the convention:

"It has recently been bantered about in the press that I was a member of a radical seccesion group in the early nineties. I am proud to admit that I as part of a group that stood up for a strong Alaska against a burgeoning federal government run by Bill Clinton that threatened to trample on the rights of Alaskans and citizens everywhere. Indeed, we had a plank in our organizational chapter that if necessary, we would explore seccession from the federal government if Bill and Hilary Clinton succeeded in ramming gay marriage and socialized medicine down our throats. Luckily, the republican revolution stopped them in their tracks of converting our nation in to a communist nation state, and I felt it was no longer necessary to be involved with that group"

It has EVERY SINGLE BUZZWORD and attacks the Clintons to boot. Fundies go wild, ra ra shish kom ba.

Its all about shifting your perspective folks, and seeing it from the crazies side.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:17 PM
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10. Agree Indydem
Why would she not be nominated?

The Republican base loves her. It would be suicidal for McCain to drop her.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:38 PM
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4. They can nominate anyone they want
Including you.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:40 PM
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6. WOO! Hey, I'm qualified!
I'm a mom! I'm in the PTA! I know how to work a computer, and I used to live in Michigan, which is kinda close to Canada!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:46 PM
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8. So you have foreign policy experience.
Do you own a gun?
Are you in a militia?

If you answer yes to both, you're qualified!
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