Who's in Charge Sen. McCain? NYT - "John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.”

[FrenchieCat]

In reference to his picking Palin at the last minute.

Disclosures on Palin Raise Questions on Vetting Process

ST. PAUL — A series of disclosures about Gov. Sarah Palin, Senator John McCain’s choice as running mate, called into question on Monday how thoroughly Mr. McCain had examined her background before putting her on the Republican presidential ticket...
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Among other less attention-grabbing news of the day: it was learned that Ms. Palin now has a private lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation in Alaska into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner; that she was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede; and that Mr. Palin was arrested 22 years ago on a drunken-driving charge....
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At the least, Republicans close to the campaign said it was increasingly apparent that Ms. Palin had been selected as Mr. McCain’s running mate with more haste than McCain advisers initially described...
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“They didn’t seriously consider her until four or five days from the time she was picked, before she was asked, maybe the Thursday or Friday before,” said a Republican close to the campaign. “This was really kind of rushed at the end, because John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02vetting.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

[Occam Bandage]

1. A feeble, incompetent executive leads to a disorderly, incompetent campaign.

The Palin debacle is exactly the type of decision-making process we'd see in a McCain White House.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Utterly dangerous!

:scared:

McCain likes to react.

He was reacting to the Dem's convention...which ended as a love in! :)

Obama is a superb leader...that's all I can say.

[justiceischeap]

2. This is a really good question.

Who's really running this campaign and making all the decisions? Will this particular Wizard of Oz follow McShame to Washington should he win?

[RagAss]

3. AIP is the Big One...this trooper shit is small town politics...

Secession is anti-American by definition.

[John Q. Citizen]

24. Abuse of Power is anti - American as well.

[Bluebear]

4. "He wanted to 'do' Joe?" - I could vomit just imagining it.

[Arugula Latte]

31. Joe: "Ooooh, Soldier Boy...You know I like it when you talk dirty about Israel to me."

Okay, I'm making myself sick now. x(

[Erin Elizabeth]

6. "He wanted to do Joe or Ridge."

Or both! Three way in the house! Apple martini lube!





Sorry.

[MUAD_DIB]

10. Ridge would have been the wiser choice, but now all he has

is dog poo.

[truthisfreedom]

11. But he ended up "doing" Sarah Palin.

[skooooo]

16. So? Is it wrong to do your soulmate???

:shrug:

[Errrica]

20. Wait, wait

Let's make this very clear- WHICH house?
;)

[melody]

27. I think I have sustained permanent mental tire damage

Holy crap -- the worst slash trio of all time.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Sure would make me wonder about him if he can be pressured into a last minute decision

that he was not entirely in agreement with...

[liberalhistorian]

8. How the hell could this have been rushed like this?

For God's sake, he's known for six fucking months now that he'd be the nominee! He had all the time in the world for deciding and vetting. What reckless horrible judgment!!!!

[MUAD_DIB]

9. This just keeps on getting better and better.

[grantcart]

29. only thing missing is some link to Michael Vick and the dog fighting

[Tansy_Gold]

33. Does shooting wolves from airplanes count?

This is so disgusting I can hardly write it.

[grantcart]

34. ok see I just don't have a big enough perspective lol

[Tarheel_Dem]

12. That's just great. Pick Palin to blunt Obama's bounce, and vet her later?

Kinda how we wound up in Iraq, don't ya think?

[Cha]

21. Exactly...you've nailed

it! Sickenly true.

[yellowcanine]

13. If it is true that Dobson and other wingnuts vetted Sarah ,,,,,, and McCain Dumps her....

How delicious would that be? Sarah would be the gift that keeps on giving....and if he doesn't dump her? Well that would be good also.

Rock, meet hard place. Heh.

[niceypoo]

32. Dobson vetting?

Republicans are no longer competent as a group. Once upon a time, they were. They are rapidly devolving back into homo-erectus

[glitch]

38. McCain may pop a blood vessel with all this pressure. Or they'll have to med him at bush levels

if they aren't already.

[skooooo]

14. The stories are coming out too fast!!

:scared:

[FrenchieCat]

15. Why wouldn't he be the one to make whatever decision he was going to make?

Who are the puppetmasters? and why are there puppetmasters?

[ginnyinWI]

22. maybe it was for spite.

I've been reading how McCain is rebellious and a risk-taker. What if he wanted Joe or Ridge and they said no, so he was like, "I'll show you guys..." A tempermental, emotional decision based on no rational reason.

Just what we want in the next president. :sarcasm:

[Cha]

17. Obama's in Charge and mccain

is a prisoner of the rw political trap.

[Errrica]

18. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...

:popcorn:

[Gabi Hayes]

19. First, McCain doesn't speak for his campaign. Now, he doesn't get to

decide on his own running mate?

can you say Manchurian candidate?

WTF else makes sense?

the dems MUST ask the question: who is in charge of McCain's campaign?

[Life Long Dem]

23. They are all related. - Big oil - Alaska - McSame - Palin

[progressivebydesign]

25. McCain is outted as a TOOL of the neo-conservatives and religious fanatics.

He can't even pick his own damn running mate?? WTF? They have to be somewhat compatible, don't they?

[MadMaddie]

26. The Neocon Religious zeolots are running his campaign

That is the only way that Palin gets picked. They were probably holding their money as hostage and he had no choice.

They are seeing their "Handmaids Tale" slipping away and they are willing to do anything to hold onto that power they have so carefully stolen over the last 28 years.

Make no mistake if these people win America as we know it will cease to exist.

[grantcart]

28. They included the AIP reference lol

now its going big time



lol



Remember now the vetting thing was something that McCain was handling personally.



Holy shit I didn't think we could get so much stuff in one day

[mzmolly]

30. "Joe or Ridge" would have been prudent, intelligent choices. His "maverick" label would have been

reinforced.

Either "Joe or Ridge" would have worried me from an electoral perspective. Pawlenty would have done fine with the Conservative base, and he might have helped McCain in Minnesota and beyond?

The Palin choice makes McCain appear either reckless or superficial. Neither option is good. However, now that this article exposes the fact that McCain is lacking in leadership ability, I wonder what business he has running for President?

Then again, my theory about them possibly stealing PA could come into play? I do hope I'm wrong on that one. ;)

[Jennicut]

35. Should have picked Pawlenty, he is conservative but not an idiot like Palin

Ridge would have made sense to get independents. McCain could not think for himself and therefore he finds himself in a mess.

[McCamy Taylor]

36. Is McCain going to try to blame this on his advisers? Where does the buck stop?

The nominee chooses the VP. This was his decision. No fair trying to claim that the evangelicals or the oil industry or the Neo-Cons made him do it, anymore than he can say that he does not speak for his campaign.

What kind of of bullshit candidate are the Republicans offering us? One who attempts to excuse every mistake with "I'm allowed a pass on this one. I was a prisoner of war." When he starts getting Americans killed through his incompetence will he say "It's alright. I'm allowed to make mistakes. I was a prisoner of war"?

I don't think that McCain even tries. I think that ever since he got home from Nam he has been going through the motions, convinced that the country owes it to him.

[vanderBeth]

37. And was this pick his way of throwing a hissy fit?