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shey1218 Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:13 AM
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reason Sarah Palin flew back to Alaska while she was in labor
found this comment at: http://www.drudge.com/news/111799/palin-belonged-alaskan-secession-group

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#47 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-09-02 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive


Holy s--t. This is the reason Sarah Palin flew back to Alaska while she was in labor.
I'm not kidding, this is a quote from her husband:


Todd Palin's reason for making those potentially life and death decisions about his wife and unborn son? "You cant have a fish-picker from Texas."


They didn't want their son born in Texas, because then he wouldn't be a real Alaskan.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:14 AM
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1. This makes sense when you are an Alaskan and don't consider yourself
an American.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:17 AM
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6. Yep. Once they secede, he wouldn't be a natural-born citizen.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:26 AM
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17. good point
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:15 AM
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2. Is Todd Palin a member of AIP too? nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:21 AM
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10. Yes - He's Not Even A Registered Republican /nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:28 AM
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24. Does that mean he can't vote for the McCain-Palin ticket?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:31 AM
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28. Ummm.... any voter can vote in the general election

He's registered as independent.

His mother says she was leaning Obama, and is now undecided.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:15 AM
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3. That pregnancy was a lie. I'm convinced. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:12 AM
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32. It's better for us to accept the story as given
because it shows a complete lack of judgment and no consideration of the others on the plan. Imagine had the baby come earlier - which it could have. Imagine sitting in the same row. Imagine the panic calls for a doctor or the unscheduled landing at the nearest airport. There are many pregnancy sites on line and all speak of not traveling in the ninth month because of the danger of going into labor. She was in her eighth, so the trip to TX was ok - but pushing it. The flight back was irresponsible. There are hospitals in TX and her husband could fly there.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:17 AM
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4. That is an Alaskan secessionist talking
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:17 AM
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5. Alaska has that 'rugged frontier' mentality.
I guess we mainlanders wouldn't understand. But I draw the line at that kind of nonsense when it endangers both the mother's and baby's health.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:17 AM
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7. She knew the baby was Downs
and maybe she didn't care if the baby didn't make it.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:22 AM
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11. Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner. From a medical standpoint, every action taken by Sarah Palin was taken to maximize the chance of a birth complication. You don't drive by a state of the art medical facility with a NICU to deliver a medically fragile baby at a 74 bed hospital.
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:25 AM
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16. I don't believe it.
If she wanted an abortion, she could have had one and no one would have to know. Remember she didn't announce till her seventh month and she hadn't been showing at all before then.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:24 AM
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14. I would hate to believe that about any mother but it does sound plausible..
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:28 AM
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21. I thought about that but she was putting herself at risk too.
If the baby doesn't make it, it's often due to complications that also put the mother's life at risk. That was a heck of a chance she took.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:28 AM
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23. My wife agrees with you
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:50 PM
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38. I think that's it!
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:50 PM
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39. dupe. delete.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 01:01 PM by Growler
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:18 AM
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8. Does this affect their multi-thousand-dollar-per-year kickback?
that each citizen of Alaska gets?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:26 AM
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18. No, Trig would have been eligible whereever he was born.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:21 AM
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9. It all fits.
See ... if there is truth, then the pieces fit together.

The Palins are extremists. (They may also be just weird, too.)

Alaska Independence Party?

"You can't have a fish-picker from Texas."

Yup. It all fits ... and it means she is off the ticket soon -- or if McCain is stubborn and keeps her it means a blow-out victory for Obama.

(But don't get over-confident!)
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:23 AM
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12. Why did she drive from Anchorage to her podunk hometown?
This is BS.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:24 AM
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15. and that is part 2. if that is the case, which would be utterly stupid, beyond stupid
criminal.... child endangerment.... then they land in anchorage and get ass into hospital
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:36 AM
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30. Maybe fish-pickers born in Wasilla are better than those born in Anchorage?
Incidentally, I know the fish-picker comment was partly to play up the family's rugged, working class image, but doesn't it seem a bit inappropriate when they're talking about an infant with Down Syndrome?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:39 AM
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31. you know. that isnt normal either
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 10:40 AM by seabeyond
geeeez.

on edit: not that i have a clue what the hell they are talking about. fish picker?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:45 AM
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33. Perhaps a euphemism?
Redolent of "cotton-picker", minus its historically racist associations, I suspect. (They're routinely absent in many areas.)
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:46 AM
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34. I *think* it's a fish gutter
But I guess I'm not 100% certain either. Seems like something I may have seen on the show Dirty Jobs.
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:49 AM
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35. To be fair, Anchorage is pretty podunk too
We're not talking a major cosmopolitan city here. It's about a 40 minute drive from Anchorage to Wasilla and the medical facilities in Wasilla are fine. Compared to the "hospitals" many women deliver at in Alaska, Wasilla is modern and large.

I think she was foolish to ever leave Texas but the Anchorage to Wasilla part is not very concerning to me.
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:40 PM
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36. Are you for real?
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 12:53 PM by Nine
http://www.providence.org/alaska/tchap/maternity/default.htm

Every year more than 2,600 babies are delivered at Providence Maternity Center (in Anchorage). That is three times more than any other hospital in Alaska.

Yeah, real podunk.

ETA - also from website "our Newborn ICU is the only one of its kind in Alaska."

http://www.providence.org/alaska/tchap/nicu/default.htm

Why would Palin risk the life of her child - who had a good chance of being born with heart problems that may have required him to be in a NICU - by landing in Anchorage and driving away from the only hospital with a NICU?
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:50 PM
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37. Yes I am for real, many of those are bush babies
Many bush communities have no medical facilities so pregnant women are flown to Anchorage to deliver. Wasilla doesn't have that issue because it is relatively large by Alaskan standards and has a fully functioning hospital.

Maybe you are from Anchorage and resent the podunk comment and I don't mean to offend, but let's not paint it to be Seattle North or something. It is Anchorage, the largest city in Alaska and population is just 260,000 in the summer months, smaller even in winter months.
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:01 PM
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40. I guess our posts crossed paths. Anchorage has the only NICU in the state.
I'm not from Anchorage, but I can look up basic facts. Do you really want to get into a debate about this? Here is the fact sheet for the place Palin chose to deliver her premature, special needs infant.

http://www.matsuregional.com/docs/Mat-SuRegionalFactSheet_Rev8-8.pdf?sub=About%20Us

They don't even list Maternity under services. They have a "birthing center."
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:11 PM
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41. "birth center" is modern-speak for "labor and delivery ward"
Wasilla's birth center is fine.

The problem isn't that she went 40 mins to Wasilla, the problem is she flew 10 hours after her water broke, maybe even that she traveled so late in pregnancy to begin with.
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Nine Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:17 PM
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45. Give it up.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 01:17 PM by Nine
But I have started a new thread on this, so thanks for causing me to research it in the first place.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6882617&mesg_id=6882617
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:27 PM
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46. Yes
please give it up.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:23 AM
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13. then they are pathetic and not an example of family values let alomne the mom
she is running and campaigning on

again it shows poor judgment in life and death situation. the poorest adn all because.... not a true alaskan. if this is what an alaskan is, then they shouldnt breed

btw.... i prefer to think this isnt what an alaskan is. i have a greater faith
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:27 AM
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19. Then why didn't she deliver in Anchorage at the tertiary care hospital there?
Why drive for more hours through the wilderness to deliver at a small community hospital in the middle of nowhere, with a high-risk pregnancy that was already more high-risk because of the delay?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:27 AM
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20. Actually, if the Palins are so keen on secession, they should have let that child be born in Texas.
We kind of own the secession thing these days. If Trig was born in the Lone Star State, and if we ever do secede, they've got an in! ;)
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:28 AM
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22. Wow...so his IQ is what? Maybe 30? Or is that on the high side?
What does it say about her that she married him? Ick.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:29 AM
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25. What the hell is a "fish-picker"....n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:30 AM
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26. Whatever the reason, it can't be a good one, assuming it's true..n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:31 AM
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27. Ok. Now this shit goes beyond partisanship.
C'mon media. Keep digging and reporting. It's about damn time you do your job.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:32 AM
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29. Here's hoping this dis puts Texas in the Obama column.
Michelle "I would have been proud to deliver Sasha in Texas."
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sakura Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:13 PM
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42. Better to endanger my child's life than have him born in Texas...
Excellent judgment, Sarah!

Should we start printing the bumper stickers reading, "Better Dead than Texan?"

:sarcasm:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:15 PM
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43. Well, in all fairness, who'd want to have thier child born in Texas?
:evilgrin:
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:15 PM
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44. Failin' was not born in Alaska. . . . nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:50 PM
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47. These people are insane
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:58 PM
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48. Is drudge now a reliable source?
Are we supposed to take this shit seriously?
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:01 PM
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49. The husband's comments aside,
would it be outside the realm of possibility that perhaps Mrs. Palin's decision to travel all the way back to Wasilla was as much a religious decision as anything?

Let me speculate for a minute or two. If in fact Mr. and Mrs. Palin are the religious fundamentalist they purport to be then the concept of Divine Healing may be in play. God's will as it would be would determine whether or not Trig lives or dies? That being said, would Mrs. Palin risk going to another hospital where specialized medical attention would be readily available? Would she risk going to a hospital in Texas where no one knows her? Would she risk going to a hospital in Anchorage where she would have to defend her decision if something were to go wrong with the delivery? Or would she feel more comfortable in Wasilla where she is among friends and allies who share the same convictions? Could it be her doctor was of same mind as her and having that doctor being in charge make any explainations easier and more plausible?

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