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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:32 AM
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No, this is not Karl Rove's Big Secret Evil Plan.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 10:35 AM by Occam Bandage
I've now seen four different posters claiming that we should stop attacking Harriet Quayle, because "this is part of Rove's secret plan." No. No, it is not. Karl Rove is all about message. His genius is twofold: he's good at organizing volunteers (which is totally irrelevant here) and he's mastered the technique of refuge in audacity. A Rove campaign is all about loudly and brazenly accusing your opponent of your own obvious weaknesses. It's about messages that are so utterly and falsely simplistic that it's difficult to so much as acknowledge the ignored nuances in the allotted 30-second reply time. It's about loud, inane, least-common-denominator messages.

A Karl Rove campaign does not include, nor has it ever included, the scandals of a self-destructing VP nominee dominating the news during the Republican convention. It does not include an unvetted candidate who throws the candidate's message into confusion. It does not include a campaign scrambling on the defensive during what should be a celebration of the 2008 GOP message. Can't we just accept that sometimes, the Republicans can be even dumber than we are?
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:33 AM
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1. thank you
This is hardly a 'brilliant' plan.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:34 AM
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2. That froggy douchebag is many things.
But a genius he is not.
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:50 AM
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14. But it is working, I'm afraid
Being deviant has a power of it's own, do you agree ??? Mrs Moose.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:56 AM
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15. According to this he did not even want the empty pant suit to be on the ticket.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 11:04 AM by Guy Whitey Corngood
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sidney-blumenthal/the-battle-between-mccain_b_123147.html

I don't know if this is true or not, but the fact that he supposedly was pushing for Romney doesn't say much about him.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:34 AM
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3. Thank you!
:applause:
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:35 AM
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4. Yeah, it's been like a weird version of Stockholm Syndrome....
....people so battered and traumatized by the last 8 years, they have to keep praising Rove, no matter what...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:35 AM
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5. thank you. just right. i get sick by all this rove bigger than life bullshit. just a little pudgy
ugly ass man
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:36 AM
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6. Yes it is--it's just Karl Rove's Big Secret Evil Plan Blowing The Fuck Up In His Face.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:37 AM
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7. Thank you ...

Sanity ... holding ... one ... more ... day

I'm convinced Rove had little if anything to do with the VP selection.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:38 AM
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8. Though I wonder if it was McCain's way of getting back at the right for not letting him have Lieberm
an - "See what happens when I follow your advice?" - and then his next pick is Lieberman or Ridge.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:39 AM
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9. thank you! This is not some brilliant plot by him.
It's just evidence of McCain's complete incompetence.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:44 AM
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10. I have a feeling
that Karl Rove probably had to be sedated by tranquilizer dart when the wheels started to come off the GOP bandwagon.

He's spent all these years with his dirty tricks, criminal activities, smear campaigns, and election theft to produce a generation-long Republican majority. And it's all been undone by one batshit crazy old man and a ditzy ideologue with a half-page resume and a checkered past.
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:58 AM
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16. My thoughts as well..
You put it better than I ever could have. That kind of mind has the same way of operating. I don't think it pays, but I might be wrong. Until I can see that being a thug is better, I will try hard to go the other way. Mrs. Moose
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:58 AM
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17. My thoughts as well..
You put it better than I ever could have. That kind of mind has the same way of operating. I don't think it pays, but I might be wrong. Until I can see that being a thug is better, I will try hard to go the other way. Mrs. Moose
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:59 AM
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18. My thoughts as well..
You put it better than I ever could have. That kind of mind has the same way of operating. I don't think it pays, but I might be wrong. Until I can see that being a thug is better, I will try hard to go the other way. Mrs. Moose
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wandathewitch Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:59 AM
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19. My thoughts as well..
You put it better than I ever could have. That kind of mind has the same way of operating. I don't think it pays, but I might be wrong. Until I can see that being a thug is better, I will try hard to go the other way. Mrs. Moose
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:47 AM
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11. Correct Rove is not playing this game other than shooting off his mouth.
Also Rove who is slime works swine. Palin would have been a natural client for Rove. If Rove was involved the record would have been scrubbed and the Alaska legislature, courts, and papers would have been greased. Payoffs made and people hidden.

It took years after the election for the fact George W. Bush was removed from the Air National Guard to come to light.

McCain is off the ranch.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:47 AM
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12. Agree, Personally, I Think Karl Rove Would Not Be Nealy As Effective Without Fox News
Karl Rove's strategies depend on a heavily biased and compliant news media. Is Karl Rove really the master mind or is it the executives at Fox News? Likewise, there is Disney and Sinclair Broadcasting. If Karl Rove was working for the Democrats, he would not be nearly as effective.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:49 AM
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13. Rove would not have fucked up this badly
He might be evil, but he's not stupid evil.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:00 AM
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20. He got caught covering up his own break-in to his OWN office, which he was planning to set up a
political opponent for.

Not a genius by any means.

Thank you.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:01 AM
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21. Then it must be ... the Clinton's Big Secret Evil Plan! n/t
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:33 PM
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22. Some people see conspiracies everywhere.
And I can't fault them for it, given the number of actual conspiracies we've seen in the last 8 years.
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