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Tue Sep-02-08 11:46 AM
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Want to help the Repugs win in '08? Then ridicule Palin and her family |
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The Republicans understand that there are millions of people (mostly simple, poor, white, rural folk) who identify with the Palin family. Ridiculing the Palin family is, in a way, ridiculing their way of life. The Republicans know fully well this ridicule will turn these voters off from the Democrats.
You can be pretty sure part of the Republican strategy involves "liberal" critics, bloggers, etc. making fun of the Palins. Saying things like they belong on the Jerry Springer Show, calling them trailer trash, white trash, etc. only serves to alienate these people from the Democratic Party.
Making fun of the Palins, instead of focusing on the issues, will only contribute to making McCain President in '08.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:49 AM
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1. Thats exactly what Karl Rove said! |
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I saw him yesterday on Fox and thats what he said.
Thank goodness he is looking out for dems.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:51 AM
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2. wrong. it makes fucking no difference if we ridicule the repulsive palin |
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and her family. In fact, the stupid bristol-mother-of-trig story worked to dem advantage. I was wrong about that. the story was ridiculous but it forced the truth out at a very inopportune time for the pukes. And try looking back a few years. the pukes made merciless fun of Kerry and Edwards. They won. duh. McCain/Palin are falling in the polls.
You couldn't be more wrong, or more controlled by your fear and the myth of the all powerful repukes.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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5. Yes, to a point you are right |
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but we need to stop soon...............so that it doesn't backfire on us.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:57 AM
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15. Okay person with no profile and 30 posts. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:14 PM
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25. Already backfired other way.. |
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McCain thrust an unqualified ill-prepared and poorly vetted candidate on his Party in the cynical hopes that he could steal some female voters from Obama, while working the fundies into a frenzy over her pro-life pro-gun cheerleading.
Time to pay the piper, and nope I won't back down.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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6. Yes, to a point you are right |
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but we need to stop soon...............so that it doesn't backfire on us.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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9. Yes, to a point you are right |
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but we need to stop soon...............so that it doesn't backfire on us.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:51 AM
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3. I agree with you, and besides |
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everyone has had their say on this............I don't think we left anything out!
Let's move on and get Obama into the White House!
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:52 AM
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4. I agree. This is not about the Palin family. This is about McCain's judgment! |
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:57 AM
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Baby gate was just a launching point to get Palin in the news so that she did not use the MSM to spread her message. Now we can concentrate on the real biggie like her link to AIP and her lies about the bridge to no where
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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7. We're in the political arena in which McCain has chosen an |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 12:40 PM by Old Crusoe
unqualified governor to take the control panel in the event of his incapacity or death.
That's really the hinge.
The question about his judgment depends on his motive for choosing Palin.
I am not convinced that the Palin family story is sufficiently representative of the American voters you reference. Some, certainly. But all so many? I think that is up for debate.
The ridicule is a political reaction, IMO, and not personal, and its target is McCain's judgment and not Bristol Palin's private life.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:36 PM
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46. Exactly...all these articles are about |
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palin's record in Alaska and hypocritical events going on that contrast her policies.
It's the hypocricy and john mccain is actually helping the Progressive view by being the catalyst in exposing it.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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8. You are assuming that the kind of people who are remotely pro-Palin would have ever been |
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attracted to the Democratic Party in the first place. We don't have to go after THEIR base, we just have to keep ours. And OUR base wouldn't spit on someone who is as rabidly anti-abortion, anti-birth control, secessionist, inexperienced, poorly traveled, and poorly educated on national and international matters as Palin is if they were on fire.
As I have said many times already...I don't see the point of making fun of Palin over the pregnancy of her 17 year old unmarried daughter when there are so many OTHER things to make fun of her for. Also, there don't seem to be as many 'babygate' threads as 'AIPgate' threads.
You need to search for some other reason to slap wrists.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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10. You're right! That's EXACTLY how Kerry won in 2004! |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:09 PM
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23. You think it would have helped Kerry to spend more time attacking Mary Cheney? |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:17 PM
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it was extremely weak when he let the repubs get a way with that week-long whine fest over Mary Cheney. John Kerry NEVER should have backed down from that, he was right.
See, this is the repubs m.o., you get outed for hypocrisy in your personal life, so you counter attack until you make the other guy apologize for something he didn't do. It makes you look weak and wrong.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:22 PM
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36. I think it would help if the Obama camp focused a spotlight on Sarah Palin's lies and hypocrisy. |
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You, however, want to post smears against Democrats suggesting we're all "attacking" Bristol Palin when no one is actually doing that. I get really sick of reading posts by whiny, do-nothing, "Democrats" who want our leaders to run away from every argument and apologize for having the temerity to run against repubs.
I don't call that a winning strategy. I know you do, so we'll just have to disagree with each other.
Now you can cry about how mean I was to you. :eyes:
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:31 PM
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43. What are these threads, then? Scotch mist? |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:35 PM
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44. I call them "In your face" hypocrisy controntation. |
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If you can't stand the heat, get out of our kitchen!
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:38 PM
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47. Go tell that to Obama... |
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The kitchen is on fire; I'm trying to put it out.
Apart from the word "confrontation", I think you're right...
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:41 PM
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48. I agree with you. You're trying to put out our fire. |
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I watched you do that every time the Democrats have gotten the media to focus on the repubs. Pathetic.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:46 PM
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:53 AM
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11. They are voting for McCain anyway |
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Its called the GOP's Base for a reason...the whitehouse will be won in the suburbs. Not in rural America.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:54 AM
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12. They are voting for McCain anyway |
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Its called the GOP's Base for a reason...the whitehouse will be won in the suburbs. Not in rural America.
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:56 AM
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13. Thanks again Karl n/t |
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:56 AM
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14. I just have one thing to say.... |
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remember how the pubs tore Hillary Clinton apart? Remember how they continued to dog the Clintons throughout the 8 years of President Clinton's term, and still dog them?
Why on earth would the Palin/McSame ticket be hands off?
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:02 PM
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19. Oh it's hitting them where it hurts and hence the talking point |
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to deflect and beg for mercy.
They don't want to talk about how irresponsible their beliefs are. If soooo many can identify with the Palin's then many should be looking for ways to break these kinds of cycles. This isn't making fun, this is a real and growing problem across the country and Palin's views are in so many ways a directive to let them eat cake.
Bristol, despite any beating in the media, is going to have a lot easier time than most teenage mothers.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:15 PM
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26. I'm talking about ridicule... |
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Calling them things like trailer trash, white trash, etc.
By all means talk about their beliefs and how regressive they are.
Understand the difference?
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:19 PM
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31. Nobody publicly aligned with the Democratic Party is doing that.. |
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it could be freepers lurking on this board calling her trailer trash for all we know. It has no bearing whatsoever on the election.
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:22 PM
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53. But the Palins ARE redneck white trash... |
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I have seen no evidence that disputes that
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:57 AM
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17. Ridicule McCain and his incompetance and lack of judgment. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:20 PM
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Tue Sep-02-08 11:59 AM
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18. LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS! |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:03 PM
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20. I've said it before and I'll say it again: You don't bring a knife to thermonuclear war. |
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All this "keep our powder dry" crap and play nice makes us look timid and weak, not evolved.
We need to be pit bulls, not kittens.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:05 PM
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21. Fuck that. What about all the horrible things they've said about Obama and his family? |
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So it's okay for them to LIE about Obama's family, but it's not okay for us to tell the TRUTH about Palin and her hypocritical family?
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:18 PM
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29. By all means tell the truth about them.... |
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calling them things like white trash, trailer trash, etc. will not help Obama.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:06 PM
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:16 PM
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Would you like some pizza?
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:hi:
Tell the freepers I registered 20 new dems on Labor Day
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:20 PM
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33. actually we are not talking about teen preg. we are talking about mom throwing her to public |
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because her interest overrides the child. so all the rest of your post is just story....
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:21 PM
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All that writing just to pull Ted Kennedy off the scrap heap.
No one her cares that this girl got knocked up, but rather the hypocrisy and disfunction of the entire episode.
So anyway, how is that "sex after marriage" meme working out for these people?
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:21 PM
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All that writing just to pull Ted Kennedy off the scrap heap.
No one her cares that this girl got knocked up, but rather the hypocrisy and disfunction of the entire episode.
So anyway, how is that "sex after marriage" meme working out for these people?
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:22 PM
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37. Well, I would have preferred the Bush solution.. |
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pack girl up into a car and drive her across the border for a back alley abortion. Then pay girl of handsomely to STFU for the rest of her life.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:23 PM
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39. Wow. You're hilarious. |
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This weekend must have really sucked for you. :rofl:
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:23 PM
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40. The only accident around here is you |
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Trying to stretch this into an attack on Ted Kennedy - how original. Go back to Free Republic and masturbating to your pinups of Hitler.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:27 PM
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41. Freepers love their naked hitler pics! |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:55 PM
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50. Enjoy your brief stay, fuckleberry. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:06 PM
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51. You know, I think I'll start retorting to Republicans with Herbert Hoover having wrecked the economy |
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I mean, it makes as much sense. And caused much more harm. I see it now:
Fuckhead (i.e. you): "Democrat Senator/Congressman/Governor/Mayor XXX sucks because YYY!" Me: "Yeah, but Herbert Hoover ran the US into the ground, so there!"
Now kindly go sodomize yourself with a pineapple. Sideways.
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Tue Sep-02-08 01:13 PM
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And they won't be answered. Mr. Hit-And-Run He-Man Poster wouldn't dare.
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Tue Sep-02-08 02:03 PM
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54. Aww...the scum's gone off to rape goats somewhere else... |
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:28 PM
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I remember how their ridicule of the Dukakis family, the Carter family, the Gore family and the Kerry family all backfired on them.
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Tue Sep-02-08 12:35 PM
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45. There are millions more who are NOT fundamentalists |
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and don't want them to get control of our government.
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