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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:03 PM
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New Palin details may help, not hurt
Politico: New Palin details may help, not hurt
By: Charles Mahtesian
September 2, 2008

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Fishing permit violations. A blue-collar husband who racked up a DUI citation as a 22-year-old. An unmarried teenage daughter who is pregnant and a nasty child custody battle involving a family member.

All of this, to one degree or another, has surfaced in recent days as a result of efforts to discredit or undermine Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. But these revelations may have the opposite effect: In one sense, they could reinforce how remarkably unremarkable she is.

So far — and it is hard to tell what the future may hold for Palin’s unexpected national candidacy — the travails of the Palin family probably seem awfully familiar to many average Americans. It is this averageness that makes her such a politically promising running mate for John McCain — and such a dangerous opponent for Democrats. Many voters will find it easy to identify with her family’s struggles — a significant advantage in an election where the voting calculus is so unusually and intensely personal.

Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden hardly come from blue-blood backgrounds; Biden, now famously, is an Irish-Catholic son of Scranton, Pa., and Obama was raised by a single mother. But the fact that Palin, even as a governor, remains grounded in a recognizable American lifestyle — warts and all — has not gone unnoticed among Republicans, as the first wave of opposition research has been unloaded on her....

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If Palin can withstand more media vetting — a big if — and if she can avoid being framed as a nutty, gun-toting, Bible-thumper — another big if — it will suddenly become clear that there is no playbook for how to contend with a national politician who hasn’t been in the public arena long enough to accumulate the kind of personal and ethical baggage that almost invariably accompanies the ascent to power....

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=202B4E02-18FE-70B2-A80A4298569F42B9
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:05 PM
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1. Not a surprise from Politico
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:06 PM
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2. OMG this election is not a popularity or empathy contest!
Don't people want a leader who is a bit above them in intelligence and integrity?????????????
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:10 PM
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7. Apparently not; hence 2 terms of GWB
As Bill Maher put it, people don't vote on logic; they vote for a "story".

And the Right could spin quite a story for this beleaguered, struggling hockey mom, attacked by the vicious left-wing blogosphere, still managing to balance the challenges of family AND public office. What a trouper, right?

:argh:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:15 PM
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11. Because of that very reason--Americans want a story and a narrative, they
don't pay attention to issues--it's important to hit Palin on her motherhood. That emotional aspect will turn women off, ultimately. IMO, most women don't agree with leaving your needy children to run for VP.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:17 PM
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14. Luckily the story is a bit of a streeeeeech even for wannabe supporters of Palin nt
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:15 PM
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12. You've clearly not been paying attention
It's always the popular kids who win.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:17 PM
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15. Obama is pretty popular (whew) nt
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:06 PM
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3. no mention of AIP, Politico? Plus, most parents of unwed teen mothers don't go around
...insisting they know what kind of sex education is best for *your* household.

Politico -- and most of the MSM -- is desperate to prop up this failing candidacy...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:07 PM
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4. Puhleeze. They are desperately trying for some sort of spin that will
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 01:08 PM by wienerdoggie
even up the race, now. Speaking as a mother, I think the most damaging thing to Palin's candidacy is the fact that she's got a brand new infant plus a daughter who desperately needs mom's love and guidance right now, and instead mom shoves them both to the side (along with her other kids) to realize her ambitions. Women can do all things well--but probably not all at the same time, same as men--nor SHOULD they. Most Americans will realize that someone is going to get short shrift, especially if McLoon croaks--is it going to be her family, or us?
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:32 PM
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23. Palin can do career and home but it's the lack of organisation that is the biggest worry. Would she>
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 01:33 PM by barack the house
bring that to DC. If she isn't managing her homelife well how would that tranlate to national level.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:08 PM
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5. Politico's gotta make it look like she's got a chance. She won't avoid being framed as
a nutty, gun-toting Bible thumper because she is a nutty, gun-toting Bible thumper. And most Americans do not identify with her abuse-of-power bullshit, or her extremist fringe stances on issues, thank you very much.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:08 PM
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6. Biden remains grounded in a recognizable American lifestyle, too --
Commuting to work daily, hauling out his own garbage, planting flowers in his garden, mows his own lawn. Sounds pretty grounded to me. :shrug:

Our VP can hold his own in that area.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:11 PM
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8. What about her no-nothing experience? Earmarks? AIP?
Her reckless behavior regarding her son's birth (why was she risking a flight to Texas at all????)?
What about the 20 million debt she left her town after getting earmarks for hundreds of millions?
What about that bridge to nowhere - and how she lied about it to the USA?
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:11 PM
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9. Soon as I saw St. Paul, I knew the bs would be in black and white.
Forget the family drama asshole M$M let's get to the legal red meat:

Possibly unethical behavior with trooper-gate and this is with a Gov. and VP whose entire platform stump is all about cleaning up government and ethic reform.

Ask her what happened to all those federal "pork" funds that went to "other" things.

How about Ms Congeniality want to secede from the United States and take her state with her?

What about trying to throw the local librarian under the Palin bus because the librarian doesn't believe in censoring.

Why is Alaska ranked #1 in rape and violence against women?

How about the Republican nominee for POTUS can't even vet his VP properly?

Why does she support aerial killing of wolves?

Why doesn't she admit that global warming is melting the polar icecap?

Why doesn't she want to protect the water from contamination caused by mining?

How's that Canadian pipeline going?




oh man.......... STFU Politico, we know you're full of it.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:12 PM
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10. Only if you ignore the corruption charges and wanting to secede from the United States.
Typical Politico.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:16 PM
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13. This is bullshit--
"hasn’t been in the public arena long enough to accumulate the kind of personal and ethical baggage that almost invariably accompanies the ascent to power...."

In her brief tenure as Gubner she's racked up enough scandal already to sink an ordinary (i.e. Dem) politician. Troopergate, Bridgegate, etc.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:23 PM
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17. With that logic, I would be a great choice! No political baggage at all!
No amount of experience is too little (IF you are a Republican, that is).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:19 PM
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16. NOT THIS TIME
Get with the fucking program.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:25 PM
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18. Another edition of "This is GOOD NEWS FOR REPUBLICANS!"
very similar to all the Good News for Rudy Guiliani we received, just up to his withdrawal from the race.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:27 PM
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19. Don't you know by now, EVERYTHING is good news for John McCain!
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 01:27 PM by abernste
Even if it's not.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:27 PM
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20. Politico's version of spin is
equivalent to a one eyed dog chasing its own tail

(i.e. FUCK that right-wing front P.O.S. Politco)
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:29 PM
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21. I don't really identify with their hypocisy myself but everyones different I guess.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 01:35 PM by barack the house
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:31 PM
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22. I do think that all this has the big big potential to backfire
The big problem is that people on the Left really don't understand evangelical/fundamentalist culture. Churches close the ranks quickly over stuff like this.
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