Palin member of AIP False?!

[vaberella]

McCain camp: Questions on Palin's party a 'smear'
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer


ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's campaign said Tuesday that rival Barack Obama's campaign was spreading "smears" about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's past political affiliations. Yet, some of Palin's previous political activities are a matter of dispute.

At issue are claims by members of the Alaskan Independence Party that Palin was once associated with it. The party, some of whose members have advocated secession from the United States, wants to place all federal lands in Alaska under state control.

The McCain campaign released voter registration documents Tuesday dating to 1990 in which Palin lists herself as a Republican. Campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982, and has never been a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.

Palin addressed the Independence Party's state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks. She gave no indication of a current or past connection to the party.

"Your party plays an important role in our state's politics," she said in the video, which is posted on the party's Web site. "I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well."

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News that Palin and her husband, Todd, belonged to the party in 1994. Mark Chryson, chairman of the Independence Party from 1995 to 2002, told the network that Palin attended the party's convention in 1994. He said he was not certain if she was a party member, and party records do not date back that far.

Obama advisers and surrogates have also linked Palin to conservative former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan. An Associated Press story from Alaska, dated July 17, 1999, states that Palin, then the mayor of the small town of Wasilla, was wearing a Buchanan button during a Buchanan visit to Alaska.

The Miami Herald this week quoted an e-mail from Obama Florida spokesman Mark Bubriski that stated: "Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer."

The McCain campaign says Palin supported Steve Forbes' campaign in 1999.

"Supporters of Barack Obama are engaged in an unfortunate and nasty smear campaign," said Rogers, the McCain spokesman.

While Obama advisers and surrogates have drawn attention to Palin's political associations, the campaign has strictly avoided any comment on issues related to Palin's family, specifically anything focused on her 17-year-old daughter's out-of wedlock pregnancy.

"I think people's families are off limits and people's children are especially off limits," Obama said Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_politics

Now they're blaming Obama and his supporters.

[Occam Bandage]

1. Er, it was the AIP who said that. Not Obama. But who's counting?

[Matariki]

5. well, all they have to do is lie and get the media to repeat it.

They 'create reality', remember?

[vaberella]

8. Damn you Rove!! ^_^ OB, is it true that Todd Palin is a member of AIP? n/t

[demobabe]

42. I KNOW Lynette and Dexter Clark

They DEFINITELY would not make any of this up. I am sure they will go to the grave with this story if it came down to it. And it's not because they don't like Sarah Palin - they don't like LIARS, just like we don't!

I am vouching for them here. They are Symbolman's sister and brother in law.

[Matariki]

48. No. I meant the republican shills. Not Lynette and Dexter Clark.

[demobabe]

51. Oh! Oh!

I'm sorry... I totally misunderstood then! Danged internets...

[New Dawn]

44. Exactly, it was the AIP that said this...

And this "article" is a perfect example of the corporate media's pro-McCain lies and spin. Also, just because someone was not REGISTERED WITH THE STATE does not mean they were not actually a member of the party. For example, one could be registered to vote as a Democrat (in the states that let you register as a party member), while still also being a dues paying member of the Green Party.

[hlthe2b]

2. BS... there is video of her attending and the organizers have

come forward as well. They have (paraphrased) suggested McCain's claims that Palin was not a member to be like a cat covering over their feces in the cat box) LOL

[phillysuse]

3. Why does Todd Palin hate America?

Todd Palin is not patriotic; he wants to rip a star from the American flag.

The shoe is on the other foot and it isn't a Ferrogamo, McCain.

[habitual]

4. i wonder who they are gonna blame for the fact that her

husband has been a longtime member. just wondering.

[vaberella]

6. Wait?! Todd Palin has been a long time member?! Provide the link...Please!!! n/t

[demo dutch]

12. supposedly as late as 2002

[habitual]

18. oooh gladly!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/todd_palin_was_registered_memb.php

read it and laugh, they really screwed up on this one.

[vaberella]

22. Oh dear!! It's like the "whitey" video for Michelle, but this one is true. n/t

[saltpoint]

7. For public relations purposes in politics, "affiliated with" is about

the same as "member of."

Palin has some explaining to do and with any luck we can keep the pressure on to make her explain it.

[shey1218]

9. yep

"While Obama advisers and surrogates have drawn attention to Palin's political associations"

it is corect and exactly on target..... that is what he is supposed to do and his supporters as well

[SoxFan]

10. AP is as bad as Fox

Todd Palin was a registered member of the AIP.

Sarah Palin addressed the AIP on at least one occasion.

Sarah Palin voiced support for the group's agenda.

But, of course, the AP has to spin, spin, spin for Gramps and Gidget.

[demo dutch]

16. NPR just reported that an AIP chairman Lynette Clark, told ABC news that Palin

that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

Todd was a member as recent as 2002 and Palin switched in 1996. AIP is still looking for the paperwork

[vaberella]

23. I hope they find it. Oh my lord guys!! This is huge. She's a traitor. n/t

[glancingthefuture]

35. a traitor???

[robertpaulsen]

21. No shit. Fournier and Friends is the name of their show. n/t

[NJmaverick]

11. I am just happy the story has made the MSM

this is perhaps the most damning of the scandles, as she wouldn't be eligible for security clearance.

[grantcart]

13. that spin lasted about 15 minutes until Todd's membership was established

till 2002

[demo dutch]

17. According to same AIP chairwoman, Palin changed membership in 96

[FVZA_Colonel]

38. Of course, McCain is saying she has been a registered Republican since 1990, and that docs prove it.

But there's that damn video that they can't rationalize away.

[vaberella]

25. Holy Mackerel!! I put this at the top of disaster. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

14. You trust a McCain Campaign Press Release??? Take it from the AIP Secretary --->

Several AIPs say Palin was a member of the organization and attended the convention, which was held in Wasilla;
the McCain campaign says no. My favorite character in all this is the former AIP Secretary, Lynette Clark, a freelance
gold miner who wants Alaska to become an independent nation and has this to say about the McCain campaign's
damage control efforts:

"This is like a cat covering up crap in its litter box."

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/alaska_first.html



:rofl:

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

19. Priceless quote from AIP: "This is like a cat covering up crap in its litter box."

:rofl:

[vaberella]

29. Wow....seceders...They keep it real!

:rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

33. Quote of the week!!!

[vaberella]

26. They wouldn't lie either, this puts their cause on the map and brings in

support from similar groups and probably funding. This is hard hitting.

[ClarkUSA]

41. Of course they're lying.

It riles up their low-information, news-ignorant base as well.

[Hawkeye-X]

34. Wonder if symbolman made the call to his sister

and encouraged her to do this.

Hawkeye-X

[ClarkUSA]

36. He's not talking to her last I heard

:shrug:

[demobabe]

15. It ISN'T a smear

Sarah Palin was the favored candidate for Governor by the Alaskan Independence Party.

Why on earth would they want to take their own candidate down?

[Thrill]

20. Now that they have responded. The media HAS to cover it

[LSK]

24. "Palin addressed the Independence Party's state convention by video"

Do people normally address Party's they don't support???????????

:shrug:

[vaberella]

27. Not that I know of and that's all over youtube. That video is viral. n/t

[DangerousRhythm]

31. Exactly. She's right there in her parka, smiling and congratulating them and wishing them well.

The video is there... they just can't deny this with VISUAL PROOF.

[MarjorieG]

28. Read here she left party to run for Mayor, but what did Pat say in that vid. with Joe...

the one mocking the idea before they had to support her? I can't play videos on my computer. (a real tragedy) Did Pat explain her connection to his campaign?

[DangerousRhythm]

30. Are they going to dispute actual VIDEO? Are they insane or what?

There is VIDEO. GAME OVER.

[LSK]

32. Republicans dont know what video is

[myrna minx]

37. Video is a series of tubes, or so I hear that's what the kids are calling it these days.

:D

[DangerousRhythm]

40. They're also Youtube-challenged it seems.

'cause it's right there in front of their lying faces! :rofl:

[IndianaGreen]

39. There is the video of Palin warm welcome to AIP convention

and the public statements made by AIP officials as to her membership, as well as her role supporting AIP founder Walter Hickel when he ran for office.

You should know better than to believe anything coming out of the McCain campaign.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

43. They are, as usual, splitting hairs

You'll note that they are very careful to state that Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. What they don't state is that many (many) Republicans in Alaska are members of the AIP -- you don't have to change your voting registration in order to be a member.

[progressivebydesign]

45. You're a bit trollish, aren't you?

I've been noticing a pattern of your threads and comments.... Hmmmm....

[sandnsea]

49. I keep alerting

:shrug:

[Motown_Johnny]

46. Who cares.. just keep putting it out there and make them answer it..

[mwooldri]

47. Although not posted at news.bbc.co.uk, it was mentioned...

... during World Briefing on BBC World Service. I heard this on my way in to work today.

BBC usually are quite rigorous in their fact checking.

Plus the Daily Telegraph in London has picked up on it too... and they're aligned with the Conservative Party.

[gauguin57]

50. This country used to hang people for treason ...

... now they offer them the vice presidency? HUH?