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Tue Sep-02-08 03:39 PM
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Sympathy thread for Bristol Palin! |
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I'm sorry to hear that her parents are so damn heartless as to treat her this way. It saddens me that they would use her, and not even consult her when they KNEW that she'd be dragged through the mud when the Palin family was thrust into the national spotlight. Todd and Sarah even LIED to their kids about it. This is low, disgusting, and callous. How could they have such little respect for their daughter? She doesn't deserve that, or the embarrassment she is going through right now...and it is the fault of her awful parents and that turdburger John McCain. I feel bad for even bringing up her situation, but now that I found out about the lies the Palin children were told by their parents, I'm hit with a new wave of nausea. I see that this is what passes for 'family values' in fundie households.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:41 PM
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1. a good mother would keep her family's dirty laundry out of the public light |
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plus the poor kid wasnt taught about birth control either, it would appear.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:43 PM
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2. abstinence, only of course! |
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how much you want to bet they're making bristol's life hell right now, too?
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:58 PM
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she's just a kid, for Pete's sake, and the guy who is the father looks like a real loser............she should just have the baby and deal with the future on her own.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:48 PM
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7. That is what she tried to until the media (and others) wanted to make it an issue. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:49 PM
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8. by entering the VP race Palin put it on the forefront |
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:56 PM
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11. it is the horrible way that the DU and others made it an issue is the problem. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:02 PM
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17. No, we're not the problem. The rumors came to us from locals in their town. |
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We didn't start this... the rumors came to us here from locals that know the family.
Bristol has been outted by her parents and their political ambition, nothing more. See the other thread that the kids were not tol of this until they arrived in Ohio for what they thought was an anniversary celebration for their parents. Bristol was not consulted on this.. not told that she would have to hide in the background until it became politically expedient to out her pregnancy to save her Mother's reputation.
No.. the pity here is for Bristol. And we had nothing to do with it. What kind of mother springs something like that on her child?
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:05 PM
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20. I never said we did but it is monkey see monkey mentality and does |
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the Democratic Party no good. this board enhanced and spread the vile rumors.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:07 PM
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21. It was never going to stay private. Never. Sarah Palin knew this. Stop trying to blame US |
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:44 PM
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26. You sound like a victim and I never blamed you. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:43 PM
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3. It is indeed a little screwy |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 03:43 PM by orestes
that her parents didn't take her situation into consideration, and seemingly thought of nothing other than their own personal ambitions. Sometimes being a parent means making sacrifices for your children, not forcing your children to sacrifice for you.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:44 PM
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4. A good parent puts their children FIRST above all else. |
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A bad parent puts him/herself first.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:46 PM
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5. Somewhat in agreement with you |
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Many 17 year old girls have made a mistake and had unprotected sex, often resulting in pregnancy. A lot of the young people who end up in this situation have supportive parents, even if they disapprove of the daughters behavior. Young Ms. Palin obviously doesn't have the support of her family and that is sad. I fear for her future. Let's hope she can rise above this, raise a well adjusted child, and grow and strengthen from this. Or, maybe she can put the child up for adoption so that a truly loving family can raise him or her and give the kid a fighting chance.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:47 PM
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6. I hope that things turn out okay for her. It's a tough age and situation. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:53 PM
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She should not have to go through all of this crap - she's 17 years old fa chrissake! Still a kid
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:57 PM
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12. How could Sarah and Todd Palin do this to their daughter? |
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:56 PM
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10. Yes, and obliging her to marry this self-described "redneck" is.. |
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also very offensive. She should not marry this prick, and just raise the baby on her own.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:58 PM
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14. Bristol has been treated cruelly by her parents. |
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They only had to say she was preparing from school and could appear via satellite if need be. To drag a pregnant woman out onto the campaign trail is cruel and unusual punishment.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:59 PM
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16. That's just the tip of the iceberg. She's facing cruel treatement from everybody. |
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And I do mean everybody.
Stay strong Bristol.
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Tue Sep-02-08 03:58 PM
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15. She's a good kid. I wish her the best in life. |
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She doesn't need the world's attention - no kid her age needs that.
She'll have an interesting story some years from now, but she has her life to live without the media, us, or anyone other nosey folks.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:03 PM
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18. I had cousins that turned up making bad choices because of their fundy parents |
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She really seems like a relative in my family from a town of 3,000- 6,000 in Oklahoma. But their screwed up parents never ran for VP of the US.
I see a major break with her mother and father when she gets in her 20s
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:04 PM
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19. I wish Bristol the best in this terrible situation. |
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I hope that she does NOT feel compelled to marry a fellow teen just to satisfy an image the parents have of her family. I think that is the biggest crime here.. not having the baby out of wedlock, or giving it up for adoption, but in cementing a 17 year old girl's life that way. I hope she can find peace somehow in all of this, and her mother loses the election or bows out and tends to her own family.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:07 PM
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22. Sorry you were hurt by your mother's arrogance and blind ambition.. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:08 PM
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23. nice post, Elrond. I feel sorry for her too. |
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However I did not know that the children were not told what was going to happen in Ohio until it happened. That's pretty callous and mean.
wow.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:10 PM
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24. At least she has a choice still! |
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If her mom has anything to say about it, teens in this situation would have no choice in the future. Lets have sympathy for all those in the future who will have no choice in Sarah Palin's brave new world.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:12 PM
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25. Are you kidding? In her fundie nutbag family? She doesn't have a choice. |
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Not if she wants to live.
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Tue Sep-02-08 06:18 PM
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33. Legally, she had a choice. |
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And that is the issue. As an individual in an impossible family situation, she has little chance of choice...and I do feel sad for her that she is in that position.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:00 PM
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27. I would dig a hole and bury myself. This is awful for her. Her parents |
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are skanks and should be ashamed.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:06 PM
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28. Frankly, I don't feel one bit sorry for her. |
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I'll tell you who I DO have sympathy for ... the thousands of Americans who were still trying to recover from Katrina (no thanks to BushCo), only to get hit again by Gustav ... the hundreds of thousands of Americans facing foreclosure because of trick mortgages ... the thousands of Americans who have seen their jobs shipped overseas in the name of corporate profits ...
There are too many who deserve sympathy for me to have time or energy to sympathize with a Republican family.
Yeah, I'm an asshole. Deal with it.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:07 PM
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29. Hey, I'm not going to argue with your self-assessment. |
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:shrug: As a liberal, I find that I have plenty of sympathy to spare on all those that are suffering.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:11 PM
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30. You think she's suffering? |
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What's she suffering from? She lives, for now, in the Governor's Mansion. Her family is well-off. The only thing she's suffering from is morning sickness, maybe. SHE'S PREGNANT. THAT'S ALL.
You want to know what REAL suffering is? See my earlier post, and add to it the ghosts of Abu Ghraib, and the families of dead GIs.
Little Bristol will be just fine.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:18 PM
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31. I feel sorry that she came from a ass-backward family... |
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that doesn't believe in making sure their children are fully equiped to responsibly deal with their burgeoning sexuality. No 16 or 17 year old girl should be faced with raising a child at that age or being forced into a marriage for the worst of reasons.
She is a victim of her mother's and father's religious insanity. :mad:
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:29 PM
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32. I feel for her. I really do. |
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I've had a similar situation in my immediate family. But at least the young couple were able to come to a decision on their own without the glaring spotlight of world-wide media focused on them. And at least they weren't coerced into doing what others felt was the right thing. I did offer to pay for an abortion, but when they decided to continue the pregnancy I didn't force the issue.
And they weren't subjected to lectures about their immoral behavior. They may have had to listen to me mutter "How could anyone be so monumentally boneheaded as to have unprotected sex!" under my breath, but I made it clear their behavior was ill-considered but not sinful.
I have a grandchild somewhere in the world that I haven't seen since he was a few hours old. But at least I had the decency not to run for public office while he was still in utero.
Bristol doesn't have that luxury.
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:35 PM
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34. None from me...should have kept her legs together. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 09:15 PM
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35. Wow, what a fine Republican you'd make. |
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:05 PM
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36. Unless you are asserting that she was somehow coerced into getting pregnant. |
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she get's no sympathy from me. Birth control was available, she chose not to use it, her choice.And in closing, bite me.
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:31 PM
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39. While she made a poor choice...where were her parents in this? |
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Birth control? Something tells me in the Palin household, all she got to hear about was 'abstinence, abstinence, abstinence'. I don't want to bite you. I might give you rabies.
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:08 PM
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37. Learning that Sarah was probably pregnant when SHE eloped with Todd ... |
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... puts this in a whole new light!
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Tue Sep-02-08 10:10 PM
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38. I bet Bristol can field dress a moose! |
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