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Tue Sep-02-08 04:46 PM
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The criticism of Palin is NOT about her "choosing to work" |
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it's about her choosing to CAMPAIGN and possibly serve as the VICE PRESIDENT of the United States with children who obviously need her attention between her special-needs infant and her pregnant teenage daughter.
On Hardball just now, someone was saying that there is now criticism from women "on the left" of Sarah Palin for "choosing to work" while having a Down's syndrome baby.
What bullshit.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:47 PM
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1. The Vice Presidency is not a fucking 9-to-5--remember the phone ringing at 3 AM? |
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:47 PM
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2. When did we start telling women how to lead their lives or raise their kids? |
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I must have missed that one.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:49 PM
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4. When this one chose to run for office and wants to insert the government into my reproductive rights |
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:03 PM
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5. So, you want to reclaim your personal rights by taking away hers? |
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Tue Sep-02-08 07:59 PM
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14. No, I want to question the woman who wants to take away my rights. |
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Lose the hysteria.
Anyone who wants to tell me how to run certain aspects of my personal life will not only be scrutinized- but refraining from doing so is irresponsible.
Especially when her way obviously doesn't work.
Get over it.
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Tue Sep-02-08 04:49 PM
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3. Why Not Let Republicans Come to That Conclusion On Their Own |
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Right now, using hardball tactics on the Palin women over Bristol's pregnancy is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:05 PM
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6. It's not shooting fish in a barrel unless you're listening with liberal ears. |
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It's ginning up support for the most laughable VP choice in time immemorial.
I can hear those fundies rushing to support her right now.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:19 PM
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7. When Are They Going to Clean House |
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This board is so gamed ...
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:32 PM
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10. Sometimes I think we've just all been contaminated by 15 years |
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or more of Republican rule and Republican owned media.
That Rude Pundit post speculating about Bristol Palin's vagina got more than 15 votes.
What is that?
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:43 PM
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Is breaking my heart with that stuff.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:23 PM
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8. That sounds more like criticism I would expect to come from the right. |
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I think they are trying to offload Dr. Laura onto us.
Liberals and Democrats do not usually make personal judgement calls about if a woman should or should not work. F!@#! Does ANYONE remember women's liberation at all?!!! It was about the right to make the choice that made sense for YOU.
Most poor or middle-class women do not have the LUXURY of making the choice to stay home with their children, disabled or not. They work to put food on the table and clothes on their backs and to pay for healthcare and shelter.
If you are making the case that Palin should not be Vice President because of her new son or her daughter's situation - I am 100% opposed to that position. You say "what bullshit" but your first sentence sounds like you are trying to dictate her options. As a matter of fact, your first 2 sentences are complete contradictions.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:55 PM
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13. If this works now in this situation |
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Then you can expect it to be chanted through the years every time a woman runs for a political office.
Raebrek!!!
I'm with you
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Tue Sep-02-08 08:06 PM
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 08:07 PM by the dogfish
that the choices presented seem to only be limited to running a full time political campaign, or staying home?
Like choosing another career-oriented option that's not so consuming isn't a possibility I guess?
That's what I'm mad about, the mischaracterization.
I'm not apologizing for the fact that I think if she has a baby at home with special needs and a teenager that's pregnant, her fucking family should come first- but that doesn't mean "staying home". It means choosing a career move that's fair to the responsibilities she's already taken on.
ESPECIALLY if she's running as a "family values" politician.
That's sexist now? That's backwards? Get real.
God forbid someone suggests she weigh her options and base her decision on whether or not she's giving both this family and the people of the United States their fare share.
I don't care if she's male or female.
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:23 PM
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9. I suppose rich people have nannies? |
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Tue Sep-02-08 05:46 PM
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12. that's the latest talking point: playing the reverse feminist victim card.... |
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Stephen Hayes, Cheney biographer/repub shill extraordinaire just said that the way the left is ATTACKING Palin for trying to be a working mother has him more "FIRED UP" than he's been in Years!
it struck me as he said it that it's the same thing I've been hearing since yesterday, and followed Jack Cafferty's mentioning that he heard similar RW talking points on EVERY Sunday chat show, "some word for word"
that was funny. Hayes sat there, shaking his head, in a mute attempt to refute the obvious truth
excellent moment, almost on the level with Campbell Brown
can't wait to see what she has to say tonight about causing Larry King to lose his exclusive with PO Dubya
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