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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:29 PM
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Sarah Palin CHOSE to have a special needs child
Plus, she was quite fortunate to have at her disposal the health care that allowed her to bring that child safely to term.

But, what if in having this child, a doctor told her that she would sacrifice her own life?

Would she choose to terminate the pregnancy instead?

What if her daughter faced this scenario?

I wonder what her answer would be.


These aren't easy questions of course... But then again we aren't deciding who gets a seat on the Wasilla City Council.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:31 PM
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1. Forget that...
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 06:32 PM by RoccoR5955
...how is she caring for a 4 month old, and being on campaign?
And how does that speak to her judgment?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:45 PM
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5. AND she has a pregnant teenage daughter who NEEDS her attention, love and support
right now. No matter how much Palin claims that she supports her daughter, she will NOT be able to give her the kind of FACE time she needs at this difficult time. Her daughter is probably scared and wants her mom back. Bristol is still a child. Just because she's having a baby, it does NOT make her an adult. Palin should be putting her family first right now rather than sacrificing it for the sake of power and greed.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:33 PM
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16. Millions of moms work and raise kids with problems like these all the time...
That shouldn't be used against them.

Palin's hypocrisy should be the target. Same goes for her lobbyist buddies, flip flopping on the bridge to nowhere and other issues.

Being a working mom...nope. Sorry, don't agree there.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:30 PM
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14. Are you saying that working moms shouldn't work?
My daughter has three children and one of them is a special needs child. She works full time and can still provide good parenting to all of her children.

We should be attacking Palin's hypocrisy...not her working and being a mom.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:31 PM
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15. Would you ask a male candidate the same question? This line of reasoning is a loser for Dems. n/t
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:31 PM
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2. Individual Rights Pertain To Individuals - Not Potential Individuals


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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:31 PM
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3. Your WRONGO.....
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 06:32 PM by rsmith6621


....She would tell you JESUS GAVE IT TO HER and then she would say something like this.....God wouldn't give me something I could handle.....JUST ASK SARAH....
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:36 PM
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4. Lots of women decide to carry their "special needs" babies to term. It's not unusual.
Her personal decisions are not the issue. Her belief that the government should limit the options available to everybody else faced with this sort of decision IS the issue.

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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:46 PM
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6. What sickens me is...
this constant reference to "she chose to have that child." What? Instead of aborting it?
The reason the Repukes keep saying this is to frame a notion that "liberals" and "feminists" use abortion solely for implementing genetic selection.
They are trying to imply that Democrats would never be able to put up with a challenged child so they get an ultrasound and an amnio and if they don't like what they see, they abort.
How sickeningly sick they are.
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:38 PM
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18. There's a flip side to that coin
And it is that some might consider bringing a severely retared child into the world inhumane. I personally feel that way, and would not want to bring a child into the world who will never be able to live anything resembling a normal life. It has nothing to do with time and money and everything to do with one's own view of mercy and decency.

That said, it is a deeply personal decision and one that I don't fault her for in the least. Let's hope that CHOICE remains on the table in the future.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 06:53 PM
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7. Chose to have and to keep a special needs child
I know someone who had the child (married, successful, white) but gave the child up for adoption.

I admire Governor Palin's decision as the situation is not easy, and no one of us can really know what we would do until we are in that situation.

However, Governor Palin had the ability to make her own decisions. Her daughter also has the right to make her own decisions - to marry or not marry. Having the right to choose. Imagine that.

My mother and aunt both Hillary supporters - both pro life - were shocked that Governor Palin would campaign with a 4 MTH old child. They believe she is irresponsible. My mom said that if the child was a year or more, she would feel differently.

Also, everyone makes the point that Barack has young children, and the comments about Palin are sexist. First, Palin's husband also works - at times away from home so the kids have only her to rely on. And she is governor of Alaska. Michelle is there with the kids, as is her mother. Also, Barack's kids are not 4 MTHS old.

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:04 PM
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8. And so...
she didn't abort her child. Special needs children come in all sorts of packages - it is wrong to second guess anyone when faced with this decision.

I think this should be off the table.

Frankly, It really is not something debatable and it is none of your business.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:04 PM
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9. O'key, the woman is as pro-life as it gets.
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 07:09 PM by lizzy
What choice are you talking about? Once she got pregnant, obviously she would not abort, no matter what, unless her own life was in danger.
How do we even know she planned to become pregnant? After all, she just became the governor and already had four kids. And she was 43 when she became prego. And has not told people she was pregnant until she was 7 months into it.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:08 PM
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10. Where are you going with this?
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 07:09 PM by lizzy
She doesn't believe in abortion, even in cases of rape, unless the life of the mother is in danger. So, presumably, that means she would not sacrifice her own life. But it also means, whatever abnormality the fetus had, she was going to have the child.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:16 PM
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11. Ok, Let's say, Roe v. Wade is appealled (and she wants it appealled)
What would her choices be in this situation.



Her life or the child's life?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:19 PM
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12. She opposes abortion except if it endangers the life of the mother.
So, she would not sacrifice her own life for the life of the baby.
But in all other cases, she would have the child.
Rape, incest, genetic abnormality-you name it.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:28 PM
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13. The, for her, I guess choice isn't all that bad
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:37 PM
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17. Drop the special needs child abortion thread. You fail. It only discredits you and DU.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:47 PM
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20. I'm not saying that she should have aborted it all
I'm just wondering if Palin realizes that a lot of women will die and so will their children if Roe v. Wade is repealed.


With it as the law of the land, she was free to have the child safely... the decisions of women and their doctors do matter.

More so, than the desires of a bunch of wrinkly, old, white guys.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:40 PM
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19. She doesn't want anyone else to have the choice
And her daughter didn't really get a choice either. Do we want our daughters forced to carry pregnancies? Their health threatened? Whether they're raped? Lives ruined?

That's the real issue here and I'm disgusted that so many supposed feminists aren't bringing it up.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 07:49 PM
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21. You, my friend, have answered my question
This is the point that I was trying to make
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 08:01 PM
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22. I tried this morning
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6882306&mesg_id=6882306

I got back this afternoon and was disgusted that shotgun wedding threads had more response. I don't know. Maybe gossip really does move more votes than good sense.

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