McCain could NOT return from Hanoi early

[crimsonblue]

He was ordered by a superior officer to stay, and other soldiers were due release in front of him. Noun. Verb. POfuckingW.

[Captain Hilts]

1. He was offered his freedom because of his dad. He declined.

You can't take that away from him.

[mckara]

2. Actually, His Freedom Was Offered to Kissinger, and He Said No

McCain thanked him later for saving his honor.

I don't remember my source. Sorry.

[Captain Hilts]

6. It was because of his dad being CINCPAC. nt

[crimsonblue]

3. t wasn't his to decline

superior officers told him not to, and a soldier MUST follow a superior's orders, even in pow prison.

[AkFemDem]

4. His service was honorable, and his kutzpah in surviving what he did- amazing

But he shouldn't be president because GWB was the Worst President Ever and John McCain agreed with him 90% of the time.

[crimsonblue]

5. agree

but to allow a bullshit pow meme to persist is ridiculous. Yeah, he was awesome in surviving Hanoi, but he was following orders of superiors.

[Captain Hilts]

8. It's more than "following orders of superiors." nt

[Captain Hilts]

7. Agree completely. nt

[DinahMoeHum]

9. The senior ranking officer who issued the order: James Stockdale

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6463650

From his book: In Love and War (on page 254)

http://books.google.com/books?id=ClsiDxiyzO0C&pg=PA254&lpg=PA254&dq=stockdale+no+early+release&source=web&ots=tJaY25B_7p&sig=6VC4G1Eg1D_jVDyxzJXxFPJpcVo&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA254,M1


:patriot:

[DinahMoeHum]

10. sorry, dupe.

n/t

[DinahMoeHum]

11. sorry, dupe. Man, the moderators must be having a hard time tonight.

n/t