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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:41 PM
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Barack the counterpuncher
Tonight you saw nothing he can't hit back on and come out looking better in the end.

Tomorrow the same thing.

Let them have their nasty little lie-a-thon. Barack always comes back to win the round.

They offer nothing. Hate and fear, fear and hate. No policies, no judgment, just failure.

That's easy to counter if you are willing to stand up and do it. Obama has proven that he will, time and time again.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:52 PM
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1. agreed,,,enough with the handwringers. Barack and Joe know what they are doing.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:55 PM
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2. Obama beat Hillary in a Dem primary
I think he can handle anything McCain and Palin have to offer. And Biden augments him perfectly.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:57 PM
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3. Barack is many things, but not a counter-puncher.
He needs to do what he does best... execute a plan and not get distracted.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:58 PM
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4. oh yes he is a counterpuncher
That's all he's done and he's great at it. H20 Man has written some great stuff on it.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:01 PM
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5. He has written poetic stuff about it
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 11:14 PM by Marnieworld
He made me see boxing in a new way. And Obama as well.

Here's his counter punching piece:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/H2O%20Man/446

on edit here's another good Boxing metaphor piece:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/H2O%20Man/302

I rec reading any and all of H20man's posts. Just looking for these I saw more than I remember. Wow!
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:04 PM
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10. I've read it and it's all wrong.
He's disciplined and with a good game plan and he executes.

He is not improvisational, politically. He is unusually bad at reacting to a shifting environment, though his eventual solution is usually sound. (A planned and executed response.)

Barack is the opposite of an improvisational politician. He does not thrive on chaos. Some do.

It's not a matter of better or worse. It's just a straightforward description of the man's style, freed of sports analogies that are not perfectly analogous to politics.

Others can disagree. Free country.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:09 PM
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13. Being a counterpuncher isn't improvisational
It's a disciplined game plan. You pick your spots. What you described is exactly what a counterpuncher is.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:01 PM
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6. we have truth on our side
I had two friends call me after this speech to thank me for the work I am doing on the campaign. Neither of them is religious or political, and they BOTH said "you are doing the work of angels. keep it up. and thank you."

that should tell you about the effect of her hate speech on many people.

the bottom line is we were warned that she was a decent speaker. good for her. she did win (or we're not sure now) miss congeniality (ha ha). She's got nothing of substance. no one wants her near the button except the fundie crazies.

stay on message and ATTACK her and him. Must not get distracted by her too much- his judgment is the POINT. he is a reckless person to have chosen this irresponsible, unqualified person.

and on a personal note, may I just say....REPUKES, you make me SICK so I didn't watch your fascist rally. God still hates you, because there are 2 more hurricanes moving in. Good work.

failin and mcshame = 4 more years of the same
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:03 PM
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7. Agreed, absolutely
I don't love the guy for nothing. I sure hope he can save us from this travesty.

David
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:03 PM
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:04 PM
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11. Fuck you.
and bye!
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:09 PM
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12. Careful how you describe the next President
I am sure you are a great American. You just hate over half the people that live here.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:10 PM
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15. You're scared, aren't you?
:rofl:

If that's all you've got, you're scared shitless.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:19 PM
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16. Well tell us when you're shipping off to Iraq then
Name one piece of major legislation John McCain has authored or sponsored in his career that he hasn't turned his back and flip-flopped on? Just one! Obama has done more in a few years than McCain has done in his whole career. Look at Obama's work on open govt with Tom Coburn, or his work on the ethics reform bill, check out his foreign policy legislation that he wrote with Dick Lugar. Obama wrote a bill called the Homes For Heroes Act in 2007 that would help homeless veterans get homes. McCain was missing in action on that one.

All you have is fear and hate and your time is over. Now run along little doggy.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:23 PM
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17. Back away from the Fox
You are suffering from falsehood overload. Stumble on outa here before you get spanked.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:04 PM
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:10 PM
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14. This is the worse mistake they could have made
There will be some hard counter punching followed by slamming McCain.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:26 PM
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18. I think it pissed us off and juiced up their base
but won about zero points.

F----

I sez.
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Harold J. Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:37 PM
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19. Fight on!
I swear these are THE most uneducated bunch of trash I have ever seen!!! I'm SOOOOO glad that Obama will clean this trash up and throw 'em away!
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