CAN WE CUT OUT ALL THE FUCKING WHINING AND HAND-WRINGING???

[Danger Mouse]

       We sound like a bunch of babies that spilled out
ba-ba's and need a diapy change. No wonder we fucking lose, we
set ourselves up with fear of Rove, fear of Palin, fear of the
electorate, fear of our own damn selves. So Palin threw some
red meat that'll energize the base. So she scores some points.
So McCain'll get a bounce in the polls. IT'S NOTHING WE CAN'T
HANDLE.
       Pay attention to the strategy that Obama is
employing...it's all about turnout and ground game. We're
unconcerned with gloss and polls, we are concerned with
getting people out to the polls and voting. The Obama team is
burning the midnight oil to ensure that no matter what dirty
tricks the Rethugs try to pull, we will maintain the record
turnout from the primary and get the vote out there.
       We won't do it if we're too busy screaming 'THE SKY IS
FALLING' and acting like spineless cowards. Folks, I am
confident that we can win this election...not cocky, not
arrogant, just confident. We must be CONFIDENT that we can
win, and not feel down in the dumps every time the polls look
bad or they score some points.
       Obama is a brilliant politician, and so is Biden, and
they have a fantastic team behind them. They CAN win, we CAN
win...but only if we do NOT lose faith.
      The rethugs want us to lose hope...once they smell
blood, it energizes them more. It's THEM that are in serious
trouble this time. Despite hyperactive media spin, despite
constant rethug lies...they can't hold off the TRUTH for those
with eyes. Now, are we gonna cheer on our guys, or are we
gonna cower in the corner and cry about Big Bad Palin?

[C_U_L8R]

1. I'm not whining, I want to punch em in the fucking nose

and on edit.. you are very right.

can I still punch em in the nose?

[LSparkle]

Me too! Barack can have a "new kind of politics" IN THE WHITE HOUSE!

But first we have to GET THERE, and if we have to fight,
LET'S FUCKING DO IT!

[Danger Mouse]

11. Angry is good. Angry gets us energized so we need to stay mad.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

2. One thing I've realized since the primaries:

If Obama can beat Hillary Clinton, then he definitely can beat John McCain.

[AlCzervik]

4. Excellent point and so true.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

12. And she's light years more competent and popular than Grandpa.

[Danger Mouse]

17. Exactly. I'm grateful that the primary battle tempered Obama so well.

After debating her, he can handle gramps easily.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

22. And Hillary is definitely okay in my book now.

I was hard on her during the primaries, but ever since then, and particularly with her and Bill's speeches, she has redeemed herself.

[pecwae]

55. What a relief.

[Fluffdaddy]

69. Lets not over play the the debates......... remember 2000-04

Lets play the underdog for once

[Danger Mouse]

18. amabo.

[Jennicut]

3. I doubt there will be a bounce....too much negative coverage about Palin

[Pennie109]

5. Bravo!

Not only that, Obama/Biden are running a disciplined campaign. I'm sure they are well aware of how the republicans operate.

[MrMickeysMom]

6. Thanks, Elrond...

I ready to do it.

[vaberella]

7. The Enquirer comes out tomorrow after her speech. No bounce. It's impossible. n/t

[LSparkle]

13. The one with the article about an affair on her part?

I heard about it on RW radio this afternoon and they
were dismissing it as "trash" ... hmmmm, but the Edwards
story WASN'T?

[Connie_Corleone]

8. Some people get all scared when a republican can actually read a speech well.

This speech was for the republican base. It wasn't for moderates and Independents.

[Danger Mouse]

14. Yes, some Republicans can actually be charming and likeable.

Lol, who would've thought? :P

[hey560]

9. EXACTLY. COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.

[NYC_SKP]

10. I got it all out of my system...

I went over and shit on Rudy's lawn..

I think it was his lawn.

Eh, either way, it felt good!

[Danger Mouse]

27. Heh, he'd probably eat it for dinner.

[maseman]

15. Perfect post!

[msallied]

16. I couldn't have said it better myself. Hear Hear!

I have had no doubt about Obama's capabilities, from day flipping one. From the start of this primary until right now.

[BlooInBloo]

19. I approve of this fucking message. Sheesh.

[Kablooie]

20. I'm not whining but I'll tell ya, I AM a bunch of babies so watch what you say.

[Danger Mouse]

25. I bow in the presence of your unholy power.

[Whisp]

21. Thank you! There is no reason to fret!

why does this happen so frequently here when Obama has proven over and over again that he can hold up to this kind of stuff and come out on top.

ye of little faith, have some!

[Danger Mouse]

23. I think getting burned in 2000 and 2004 has us really worried...

but we have to rise above that.

[mwb970]

61. Twice in a row, America has elected an idiot over an obviously superior opponent.

I don't see any reason why this couldn't happen a third time. It's the same country, still filled with the same damn idiots.

[Whisp]

72. I believe Obama when he says Not This Time

maybe that's naive of me but I'm not going to cry this time over every setback and not act surprised when the pugs do their thing like they always have.

I'll cry in November if I have to and only then. Until then it's all peachy for me because if it's lost this time again there is no chance for recovery - none and Obama is not going to let that happen. We ain't seen nothing yet from his campaign.

[Neshanic]

24. Watch out, this borders on concern.

[Danger Mouse]

26. The only thing lamer than concern trolls...

are the mouth breathers who accuse every post they don't like of being a 'concern' post.
EDIT: Not saying that's you, just that I get sick of 'thank you for your concern everywhere, too'

[Cha]

28. And the shit rudy and tooty threw out will

ENERGIZE OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZING BASE like no other:bounce: :)

[Danger Mouse]

30. They insult and sneer to try and bring us down....but it will not work.

Not this time.

[Cha]

31. Damn straight and thanks for your post 'cause it was needed like

a bucket of cold water reality on hysterics!

[Danger Mouse]

32. No problem, I get sick of all the fear.

Also, posts about how 'the fix is in' without a hint of what do about it.
Oy.

[Kukesa]

29. Kick! n/t

[hasssan1]

33. Iam so fuking angry and fired up and going to WAR to help Obama to get my country back

[Bucky]

34. Concern duly noted you concerned concern-troll full of concerns, you.

Grrrr. I call you out for whining too much, loser.

[Neshanic]

41. Sounds like you are concerned concerning concern. Concern noted.

[Danger Mouse]

42. You hurt my feelings.

:cry:

[Neshanic]

44. If I really did I am sorry.

[Danger Mouse]

46. No. You didn't.

lol.
:hi:

[Neshanic]

47. Cool.

[faithfulcitizen]

35. WHO'S WHINING? I'M PISSED!

We need to push back HARD on this nasty little women. And YES, she is a bitch. Biden needs to really rough her up. She is a nobody from nowhere.

[TheKentuckian]

37. No whining

and the only fear is getting the shaft.

The GOP is fucking stupid. In an effort to motivate their base they've made our larger and already energized base rabid and have antagonized and scared the middle.

I think it's actually possible that they'll get a negative bounce. They ain't talkin bout nothin.

Still, we can never ever give up. We must be relentless and RUTHLESS but be so with purpose, dignity, and with substance.

[progressive_realist]

50. Excellent post.

Especially the last sentence.

[scheming daemons]

36. I'm whining and hand-wringing over that stupid font you used....

[Cha]

38. LOL!

Why Elrond why!?

[Danger Mouse]

40. Your concern is duly noted.

:D

[wisteria]

39. I have to agree. This actually the same old repub party attacks.

It is getting old. The woman demonstrated she can give a well rehearsed speech prepared by someone else. She apparently has no substance and they are trying to sell her with the "just like me" lines. We are right, we have the momentum, we have the better candidates that have the real pulse on America. This woman is a kook, she holds far right views on mostly everything and she really isn't qualified to serve as VP. People shouldn't lose their heads. All she had to do tonight was deliver a well rehearsed speech. Let them gloat now, we are going to win the big prize.

[populistdriven]

43. Is that Alaskan oil they are burning? I would hate to think they burned Middle East oil...

Especially while they weren't wearing lapel pins.

Maybe Tweety can ask them about the oil thing tomorrow instead of TrooperGate

[Danger Mouse]

45. It's whale oil from cute baby whales.

[populistdriven]

49. on no! there goes palins talking points!

[Frank Booth]

48. Good post. It's pathetic here tonight.

Did people not realize that Palin knows how to read?

It's not like she wrote the speech. She just had to read it. And it was a pretty bad speech to begin with.

Why all the worry?

[WinkyDink]

51. WHO'S WHINING?! WHO'S WORRYING?? I think we're pretty much venting RAGE!

[eshfemme]

52. Aye, aye! I'm pretty sure that the Palin speech enraged a lot of independents as well

At least seeing the solid F(!!!) ranking of Palin's speech in stark contrast to the As and B that the CNN analysts gave it, which is very strange as a consensus because with all the freeper trolls on the internet plugging away for their McCain points, you wouldn't think that the speech would get such a consistently low grade. But it does. So yeah, the speech sure did strike a chord in the electorate. I'm just not sure it's the one that the McCain people wanted.

[renie408]

53. A-fucking-men. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Two kinds of DU saboteurs: 1) We're fucked! 2) We can't lose!

There are two kinds of DU saboteurs:

1) We're fucked! Give up! They'll steal it, guaranteed! Go home! No hope!

2) We can't lose! We can go home, it's wrapped up! They are already dead, we don't to move a muscle.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. There Has To Be A Middle Ground Between Pollyanna and Cassandra

~

[bdamomma]

56. this stupid woman that they picked is not going to make me crazy

[bdamomma]

57. like my 15 yr old son says

breathe in and breathe out, meaning we have to focus and relax. We got it all over them. Desperate measures by desperate men/women.

[chill_wind]

58. Don't confuse whining with anger, facts and determination

to take this Bush 2.0 Cabal out of business. We can't knock her and gramps out without knocking them down.
The MSM isn't going to do it voluntarily. Quite the opposite.

[AlinPA]

59. You nailed it with these words: "....it's all about turnout and ground game.

We're unconcerned with gloss and polls, we are concerned with
getting people out to the polls and voting."

[chill_wind]

60. She has to be stopped. "Time to neuter that pooch." Ignoring her won't cut it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3920282&mesg_id=3920282

[Balderdash]

62. Why all the anger and "fear"?

Nothing happened last night that couldn't have been expected. Republicans seem to have forgotten some stuff and we need to remind them and the rest of the country. They said, the surge worked, maybe it did but why were we there in the first place? They made fun of Obama's "Change" campaign, like they are some how better suited to bring change. Um, they're the ones who have been spending like drunken sailors for eight years, gotten us into an illegle war and spent billions of dollars on it. Republicans are acting like we should trust them with our lives and our money and our honor and our well being. They had eight years, they fucking blew it in the worse possible ways. There is no need to panic, just remind folks.

[WinkyDink]

64. Knock it off. Nobody here is panicking or fearful. And if anger isn't warranted IYO, you haven't

been paying attention.

[Balderdash]

65. What the fuck is your problem?

Knock what off? You fucking need to knock it off, we're on the same side you fucking moron. I'm sick and god damned tired of coming to "Democratic" Underground and being fucking attacked by assholes that are supposed to be of the same party. WTF!

[bridgit]

63. yes daddy

[DevonRex]

66. THANK you Elrond. I think angry is good and laughing our asses

off at them sometimes is good, too. But whining? Nope. That's for victims and losers. And we're gonna WIN this thing.

[Fluffdaddy]

67. If you're scared .....Buy a FUCKING DOG

This was always going to be a close election.......year 2000 close

[RepublicanElephant]

70. why can't we fight on TWO fronts...

...you know, like we did in wwii?

[noel711]

71. We say: "Is that all you got?" "Complaints?"

I woke up this morning realizing that when you don't have
anything good to say, or anything constructive to offer,
you complain and eviscerate your opponant.

She's got nada, zilch, zero campaign proposals to add to the
discourse on how to better the lives of the American citizens;

And NO words that edify and raise the dialog to our 'higher angels.'

What the hell happened to "morning in America"?

[BlooInBloo]

73. LEAVE TRIG ALONE!!!!

[Danger Mouse]

74. whee! kick!