Obama, 8 years IL Senate, 4 years US Senate

[sandnsea]

Get off the community organizer stuff. He was 24 years old at the time. It has nothing to do with his experience, never has. That info was always about his character.

He has 12 years experience in government, has helped negotiate Arms Control Legislation for chrissake. There is no comparison to a few months as Alaska Governor.

Stop letting them frame the debate.

[Alter Ego]

1. This is not about his experience.

It's about Sarah "Tracy Flick" Palin getting up on stage and insulting all the people in the country who are community organizers. She said "FUCK POOR PEOPLE!" The base eats that shit up, but are you going to look me in the eye and say that independent voters do?

[backscatter712]

5. The community-organizer line was a racist dog-whistle.

Take it down a few octaves and read "He's making them ghetto n*****s uppity!"

[kestrel91316]

10. Exactly. It doesn't even have anything to do with Obama at this point.

It was a blatantly RACIST attack on the urban black community to those of us who were paying attention.

I questioned whether this woman might be a racist or even white supremacist given how she hails from Sandpoint, ID originally, and the family moved to AK, possibly to get farther away from the "n-----s". I see I was right.

And for the record, I'm white.

[sandnsea]

7. They want you to talk about that

To make people believe Barack = Sarah. There are some people who are buying the garbage that they are equally qualified. It's absurd. Get off the community organizer crap. He's got 12 years experience in government and was a Constitutional Law Professor. There is no comparison between the two.

[LSK]

2. she was a sportscaster at that age wasnt she??????????

[faithfulcitizen]

3. Exactly! As I said before, her being mayor should be compared to his 8 yrs as St. Senator,

not a community organizer! His organizing experience is more like her PTA experience. Where are the surrogates!? We need to hear from them NOW!

[seabeyond]

4. excellent. i was starting to believe he had no expereince. 12 YEARS

of experience in the govt. i will state it just like that. keep it simple stupid, wink./....

and you know k i s s isnt calling you stupid, part of the saying

[Tommy_Carcetti]

6. Dubya was governor for what--6 years?

Obama has twice as much elected experience as Bush does. I don't know why the Republicans try to push the whole "non-experience" thing.

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. You see his time as a grassroots organizer as a negative?

What is wrong with "12 years of experience in government, a constitutional scholar, and in his youth a community organizer"?

[sandnsea]

9. That's not what is being said

All that's being said is he was a community organizer and she was a mayor. There's no comparison between the two for a lot of reasons. But the more we focus only on the community organizer, the more people forget the rest of his resume.

[RaleighNCDUer]

11. They are about the same age, aren't they?

Has anybody put up a comparative timeline on them?

Her: State college; Him: Harvard
Her: Journalism; Him: Constitutional Law
Her: Sportscaster; Him: community organizer
Her: small-town mayor; Him: state senator
Her: 20 month governor of nations 3rd smallest state; Him: 4 years US Senator

[sandnsea]

12. That's not accurate

Her community college Him Occidental
Her Idaho State Him Columbia
Her Sportscaster Him Community Organizer
Her PTA Him Law School
Her Small town mayor Him Constitutional Law Professor, Civil Rights Lawyer
Her Governor of Alaska Him 8 years State Senate, 4 years US Senate

There's no comparison between the two. It's absurd.

[Shakespeare]

14. Excellent post. Bookmarking.

Excellent comparison. :thumbsup:

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Thanks - much better, and more accurate, than mine.

Like a dice battle in Risk - his high dice beat her high dice every time.

Repugs try to match her high dice with his low dice, but that's not the way it works.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

13. When Obama and Biden

get to DEBATE these fuckwits, this will all come out.

I can hardly wait.

[suston96]

15. What many don't understand is that executive experience is minor compared to......

....legislative experience.

The function of government is primarily to make laws under which the people agree to live.

The executive and judicial branches are subservient to the legislative branch. "The Legislative is supreme". John Locke.

So Obama's and John McCain's respective experiences as legislators far outweigh any others they may have.

Better to examine those experiences, not by length of time, but by their content and how they respectively impacted our governance.

They may indicate or suggest the future character of their executive abilities.