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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:21 AM
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After Speech, 2 Female Focus Groups More Negative Towards Sarah Palin
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 11:14 AM by cryingshame
Female Clinton Supporters In Focus Groups See Talent, Mudslinging In Palin's Speech
September 4, 2008 01:28 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/female-clinton-supporters_n_123794.html

In two different focus groups of Clinton-supporting Nevada women -- married and unmarried -- conducted immediately after Gov. Sarah Palin's Wednesday night speech to the Republican National Convention, a few common reactions quickly took shape.

First, women in both groups were impressed with Palin's speaking ability and poise. But they were hardly convinced that she was qualified to be vice president, or that she truly represented the "change" they were looking for, especially in light of what was deemed an overly harsh "sarcasm" pervading her address.

The (mostly) anonymous proceedings were webcast live to reporters, who were told in a press release that the Nevada focus groups would include "some former Hillary Clinton supporters who are now undecided or are weak supporters of Barack Obama or John McCain." No party identification was made available, though the approximately two dozen women were reportedly between 30 and 60 years old.

In the "married" group, when one attendee kicked off the discussion by saying "she's a good speaker, and a crowd pleaser," the rest of the room articulated their agreement. "I didn't expect to be as impressed as I was," said another respondent. But then another woman added: "Once she started mudslinging, I thought, it's the same old crap as other politicians. McCain used her to get the women's vote. And she's using McCain."

"Thank you," another woman responded. "That really upset me; there was no need for that. It was snippy."

The unmarried group also voiced similar objections to the harsh, partisan edge of Palin's remarks. "I'm not impressed with her at all as a person," one said, citing her "finger pointing" and general sarcasm after the group had generally agreed that she was a talented public speaker.

Still not all focus group members thought Palin came off too harsh. "She didn't seem very aggressive to me at all," said one unmarried participant.

But in both groups, narrow majorities said they held a more negative view of Palin after her speech. "She comes off pretty cutthroat," said one.


On other issues, women in both groups said they wanted to hear more of Palin's own policy views, outside the realm of energy. Education, heath care, the economy and Iraq were all cited as areas in which women were hungry for more information -- especially in light of McCain's age. "I think America is concerned, because of McCain's age, that we're gonna have a female president who's maybe inexperienced. The nation needs to know what her issues are," said one married respondent, which prompted another to add: "I don't think she's got what it takes." An unmarried participant said she had yet to hear enough "in regards to her personal views, which could be implicated on us if McCain was to die."

When prompted to respond to Palin's steadfast opposition to abortion -- even in cases of rape or incest -- no woman in either group stepped forward to defend the Alaskan Republican. "I don't dig that," said one married woman, matter of factly.

But there were other points on which the participants expressed pride in Palin's achievement. "She earned what she's got -- as far as not marrying into it. I like that about her," said one married respondent. "Let's hope she has a good showing," said another who had expressed disappointment over Palin's abortion views.

The groups -- which were coordinated by Anna Greenberg and Stan Greenberg of Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner Research -- were commissioned by the Women's Voices/Women Vote Action Fund, which describes itself as "dedicated to encouraging unmarried women to bring their voices to our nation's political conversation and to advocate for policies important to them."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:23 AM
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1. haven't we had enough cut throat with Bushie.
arrogant ignorant SOB's.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:24 AM
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2. First rule of VP-hood: First, do no harm. Sounds like she lost votes--FAIL!!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:44 AM
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3. Sardonic insults don't play well with hockey moms!
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 10:49 AM by TwoSparkles
I find it hilarious that Republicans are touting the notion that,
because Palin is a "hockey mom" she will appeal to that crowd.

I'm a stay-at-home, PTA, soccer mom--and every "soccer mom" in
America knows one or two moms in the PTA who are snotty, snarky
and offensive.

Palin came off as that kind of "soccer mom."

And another thing...I don't think most "soccer moms" were
particularly inspired by or identify with that lipstick-pit-bull joke--that
the crowd liked so much. It only reinforced that Palin is
brash--and she's proud of it and she thinks she's adorable when
she acts that way.

Again, there's usually one or two of these types in every PTA meeting, in
every book club, in every committee meeting, and in every
mom's group---and although they think very highly of themselves,
they are not well liked.

The polls seem to clearly reflect that.

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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:50 AM
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4. She was like the LOSER at a comedy club competiton.
Just a bunch of NOT funny one liners.

I approve this Anti-Palin message and I'm a woman
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:56 AM
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5. yep, I think you're right
I hadn't thought about how just about every soccer or PTA mom or dad has had to deal with that kind of parent... and that she could be perceived as one of those bitchy moms that everyone has to tolerate and deal with, but nobody likes. Good point!
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:12 AM
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11. Thank you ...
I am a guy, so ...

I am wanting to jerk pretty srongly against all these MSM types hailing her as some kind of woman that the "average soccer mom can relatate to."

From my, admittedly, males life experience, I get the fairly strong sense that she is the kind of woman that women get put off by. Kind of what you just alluded to.

You never know, but my sense is that this pick, as other have noted, does more harm than good for McCain from an ELECTORAL standpoint - among many reasons not the last of which is that she TRULY is unqualified.
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:57 AM
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6. here's the link
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 10:58 AM by InsultComicDog
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:02 AM
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8. just realized that was my 1000th post on DU
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 11:04 AM by InsultComicDog
woo hoo
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:07 AM
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10. Congrats on that milestone!
:hi:

Thanks for that link. I saw something similar either this morning or last night and can't remember where (may have been a brief mention of focus group opinions within a larger article analyzing the speech).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:02 AM
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7. Here's the pittbull slashed with lipstick,
waggin' her finger like the hypocrite from hell.

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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:05 AM
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9. lipstick
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:29 AM
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12. Yeah, she'll be sorry she brought up that fucking lipstick schtick
'cause her record shows she's more pork with lipstick and a pittbull when it comes to getting people fired who don't agree with her.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:22 PM
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14. You said it best! All I can think of are expletive inappropriate epithets. nt
NoFederales
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:55 PM
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13. kick
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:23 PM
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15. K & R!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:24 PM
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16. Those are not the groups the Palin nomination was intended to appeal to
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 01:25 PM by slackmaster
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