Palin's Jet Plane - NEVER Sold At eBay

[kpete]

"That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay."

Sarah Palin on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 in St. Paul, Minn.
No bidders on eBay; sold it offline
True

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"While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for," Palin said. "That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay."

The state's jet plane was a major issue in the 2006 election, which Palin won. Then-incumbent Frank Murkowski had defied protests from members of the state Legislature and the public when he bought the jet in 2005 to travel around the state. His political opponents said the jet symbolized his arrogance and free-spending ways.

Palin defeated Murkowski in the Republican primary and then won the general election. She said during the campaign she would sell the jet, and one of her first orders on taking office was putting the it up for sale. And yep, the state decided to list it on eBay for an asking price of $2.5-million. (The state had paid just under $2.7-million for it in 2005.)

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But the jet's eBay listing did not prove effective, and the state never got its asking price. Instead, in 2007, the state turned to an aircraft broker, Turbo North Aviation. The jet was purchased that year by businessman Larry Reynolds, the owner of a sporting goods store and marine supply store in Valdez. Reynolds paid $2.1-million.

more at:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/691/

[sabra]

1. technically she was correct: "I put it on eBay."

[TwilightZone]

8. Agreed. She chose her words carefully.

Just like the Bridge to Nowhere "we'll build it ourselves" crap.

[redqueen]

15. Oh no no no... she flat out lied about being against that bridge. (nt)

[TwilightZone]

28. She's been on every possible side of the issue.

Which is convenient, of course, because she can point to one quote or another to try to support whatever her position of the day happens to be.

[redqueen]

29. She said she told congress NO THANKS! That's an outright lie. Full stop. (nt)

[OHDEM]

34. You mean Bush's speech writer chose her words carefully.

This is all a big show to them!

[sandnsea]

They're saying it shows her creative problem solving

It didn't work, so it's a load of bullshit. She had to sell the plane at a loss.

[KittyWampus]

2. Why are the Republicans whoring for Ebay so much?

[skooooo]

6. Because that's how we're supposed to earn our living....

...in the ownership society, don't you know!

[VWolf]

14. That's right - remember Crashcart?

His definition of new jobs included people "selling stuff on E-bay"

I think this was sometime in 2006 or 2007.

[Egnever]

24. cause one of the founders is a big contributor.?

I give. why?

[goclark]

25. Isn't the past owner a female Republican?

[crappyjazz]

27. Because Meg Whitman, former CEO of eBay

is stumping for him ... gave a speech at the convention last night as well.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/03/14/financial/f112627D86.DTL&feed=rss.business

[grannie4peace]

3. so, she's a pathological liar also!!

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[slackmaster]

4. Thanks kpete, I had been wondering about that one

:hi:

So technically she did "put" it on eBay but it didn't sell. Checking facts is good.

[4_Legs_Good]

5. That was one of those "har dee har har" moments

Oooh, how resourceful! You listed a jeg on eBay. What a freaking great leader

:eyes:

David

[Demit]

7. Jesus, Mary & Joseph. Doesn't anybody know how to ask a follow-up question anymore?

Wouldn't the natural next question be, "How much did it sell for?" Did anybody ever ask her, or would that be considered "piling on" on poor Sarah?

[merh]

23. When has the press been given the chance to ask her the tough

questions? More importantly, while they be given unfettered access to her or will she have handlers?

BTW, she will be better able to hide the transmitter than GWB.

[DeschutesRiver]

40. Our dear Sarah isn't taking questions at this time, on any issue

Please hang up and try to call back later......

[Ian David]

9. Yeah, I can't bash Separatist Sarah on this one. She PUT it on eBay. n/t

[iamjoy]

10. So She Told The Truth

But what's wrong with the governor of ALASKA having a private jet? Going by area, it's our largest state and because it is 47th in population, that makes it our least densely populated. Alaska also has small towns set on islands with (as we are aware) no bridges and other towns that may be inaccessible at certain times of the year due to snow.

It seems to me like air is a way for the governor to make sure he/she is in touch with all consituents from Nome to Ketchikan.

Of course, it doesn't need to be a luxury plane.

[dysfunctional press]

19. i agree. especially about the alskan governor having a jet...

but at $2.7million, it probably wasn't all that 'luxurious'

[Stand and Fight]

11. Hate to say it, but this article is bullshit.

She didn't lie. The plane was in fact put on eBay.

[Eric J in MN]

18. "We rate Palin's statement True."

The article says her statement is true.

[K8-EEE]

12. k&r

Intentionally self-agrandizing and misleading. She put it on Ebay -- an idea that didn't work.

[greguganus]

16. I wonder who ebay contributes money to? n/t

[npincus]

13. yeah, but 3rd party sources are syaing "she sold it on eBay"

no link, but I've heard it said on the tee vee.

[liberaldem4ever]

17. Has this woman been honest about ANYTHING?

Seriously. Can we please have some even reasonably honest people who give a rat's ass about what happens to the American people running our government for a change and not people like Bush/Cheney or McBush/Palin?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. So her major reform, the main reason she says she's qualified - is not quite accurate

Last night Sarah Palin had the opportunity to list her achievements in office. Selling a jet on ebay, firing the Governor's chef, firing the driver. That was it.

Now the facts surrounding her major claim to reform are not quite how she described them.

[Born_A_Truman]

21. No, she didn't lie technically

But is it "straight talk"?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

30. Apparently she didn't sell the plane at all - the state turned to an aircraft broker

Listening to her speech, you get this idea of a dynamic and resourceful person who can manage to sell a jet on ebay to get rid of government expense. Instead, you have the fact that she couldn't sell it and the state had to turn to a broker. I wonder what the broker's commission was. Anyone know?

[sandnsea]

22. So she sold it at a $600,000 loss

What's great about that? What a fool.

[RaleighNCDUer]

26. A greater loss than that, I'd bet.

If it sold through a broker for $600k below the purchase price, and then the broker took his (probably) 10% commission of $210K then the state lost better than $800k on the deal.

[shey1218]

31. she as use the phrase

put it on ebay

and

sold it on ebay

interchangebly first speech then last night

either way just anothe example of twisting words and lies

misleading people

[madrchsod]

32. i wonder what the reserve fees were in 2005.....

[madrchsod]

33. i wonder what the reserve fees were in 2005.....

[ErinBerin84]

35. geeze, another bullshit talking point knocked down.

What's next, we're going to find out that she was never in the PTA?

[libodem]

36. I'm sure we won't hear about it on Faux

[glancingthefuture]

38. whats to hear. she said she put it ebay. Not that is was sold on ebay.

[hexola]

37. So it was the mother of all product placement schemes?

[Canuckistanian]

39. So that's a net loss of $600,000

Instead of just $200,000 if it had sold for the asking price.

I don't know about the depreciation rate for luxury jets, but that seems pretty bad.